huskyvacs
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Alright, cool. Sounds like a plan. Now...just time to get all this crap out of my garage to transform it into a workshop!
1930's Royal 157 Hand Vacuum
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real1shep
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I'm never sure if there is polishing residue or not......but take like denatured alcohol and wipe the surface...let dry.....then wax.
Kevin
Kevin
huskyvacs
Another thing that might be hip would be to get a 35-foot-long, 3-wire cord (1-031136-100 or 1-031136-600) for your 157. You will, however, need these other parts to make that work:
1-239760-000 or 1-259761-000 - solderless connector, small
1-186718-000 - #10 lockwasher (for ground lead wire lug)
1-050201-000 - ground lead wire and lug group
1-880304-000 - internal strain relief (commercial)
~Ben
Another thing that might be hip would be to get a 35-foot-long, 3-wire cord (1-031136-100 or 1-031136-600) for your 157. You will, however, need these other parts to make that work:
1-239760-000 or 1-259761-000 - solderless connector, small
1-186718-000 - #10 lockwasher (for ground lead wire lug)
1-050201-000 - ground lead wire and lug group
1-880304-000 - internal strain relief (commercial)
~Ben
huskyvacs
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Oh, I was just going to put that standard 2 prong ribbed cord on it that most 1990's Royals use.
hygiene903
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Hi Les,
Sorry I can't tell you much about your hand vac, other than it is a Royal and was most likely built before 1937, when they introduced revolving brush hand vacs. It should clean up pretty good, but I have no idea where to get a bag for it. Thank you for your compliment on my machines, and wishing you the best of luck in restoring and finding a bag for your Royal.
Jeff
Sorry I can't tell you much about your hand vac, other than it is a Royal and was most likely built before 1937, when they introduced revolving brush hand vacs. It should clean up pretty good, but I have no idea where to get a bag for it. Thank you for your compliment on my machines, and wishing you the best of luck in restoring and finding a bag for your Royal.
Jeff
huskyvacs
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I picked up some wax, not sure what exactly to look for, but would this be what I need for a sealing wax after all polishing is done?
huskyvacs
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Anyone? This wax was $10 and I'd like to know an answer so I know whether to keep it or return it before the 30 days is up.
madman
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Idk. In theory, pretty much any wax *should* work, but you might need to experiment with a couple different types. $10 does seem a little high, I might've said ~$7ish from a retail store.
Husky vac
You need mothers mag polish.
I posted walmart link. If you are looking for polish or buffing compound get green red and white. If you use buffing wheel the blocks of polishing compound can be found almost anywhere. Walmart has some next to wire wheels and drill accessories. Harbor freight has next to buffing wheels. I have bought kirbys polishing compound and harbor freights. They are the exact same no matter where you get it.
Id use the bench grinder. I have a dewalt 7-9 in buffer. It weighs like 20 pounds. I was polishing a kirby tradition nozzle head it broke off clamps flipped the nozzle 30 feet caught my shirt ripped off my headphones flipped those 20 feet in multiple pieces and barely scraped skin but left a nice welt. I was okay but holy sheit. I use my bench grinder its slower but i keep my limbs in tac. You could also use handi butler from kirby. I used 5 inch orbital sander and on Amazon i got like 40 7 inches sanding pads from 80 grit to 2000. Sanding out inprefections made easy. Then i polish with polishing compond i use mothers mag when finished and it shines.
Les
http://mothers Mag & Aluminum Metal Polish, 5 oz www.walmart.com/ip/Mothers-Mag-Aluminum-Metal-Polish-5-oz/20896445
You need mothers mag polish.
I posted walmart link. If you are looking for polish or buffing compound get green red and white. If you use buffing wheel the blocks of polishing compound can be found almost anywhere. Walmart has some next to wire wheels and drill accessories. Harbor freight has next to buffing wheels. I have bought kirbys polishing compound and harbor freights. They are the exact same no matter where you get it.
Id use the bench grinder. I have a dewalt 7-9 in buffer. It weighs like 20 pounds. I was polishing a kirby tradition nozzle head it broke off clamps flipped the nozzle 30 feet caught my shirt ripped off my headphones flipped those 20 feet in multiple pieces and barely scraped skin but left a nice welt. I was okay but holy sheit. I use my bench grinder its slower but i keep my limbs in tac. You could also use handi butler from kirby. I used 5 inch orbital sander and on Amazon i got like 40 7 inches sanding pads from 80 grit to 2000. Sanding out inprefections made easy. Then i polish with polishing compond i use mothers mag when finished and it shines.
Les
http://mothers Mag & Aluminum Metal Polish, 5 oz www.walmart.com/ip/Mothers-Mag-Aluminum-Metal-Polish-5-oz/20896445
huskyvacs
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I meant for sealing the finish after the polish is done, if that Ice wax is good enough.
Hey
Idk if wax sealant would work. Im not really sure why you would want wax sealant. Car gets different conditions. To each his own if i were to use a wax meguiairs or they have rain x you waterproof windows. Im sure bases are similar they sale stuff to waterproof shoes leather etc. I dont seen a sealer stopping skid marks if you scuff wall but i attached pic. If you think about it very similar bases.
Idk if wax sealant would work. Im not really sure why you would want wax sealant. Car gets different conditions. To each his own if i were to use a wax meguiairs or they have rain x you waterproof windows. Im sure bases are similar they sale stuff to waterproof shoes leather etc. I dont seen a sealer stopping skid marks if you scuff wall but i attached pic. If you think about it very similar bases.
huskyvacs
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The wax is to protect the metal after polishing it so it does not oxidize and re-tarnish again as fast and to resist fingerprints and dust buildup on the finish. I just need to know if the kind I got is good enough.
real1shep
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I don't know why you don't get the wax part. If you use the Mag cleaner or any other special purpose product like that, the finsih will look great for awhile and then start to degrade. In time without protection, the finish well start to dull and even show any imperfections you have. I can show you a G I never waxed/protected that was mirror shined about five yrs ago and today, looks like I never polished it.....never seen water or been outside.
Car wax is the logical choice because it's designed for an outdoor environ. You may think of it as overkill or don't want to spend a few extra dollars to buy it, I dunno but it's a perfect choice to preserve the finish.
Kevin
Car wax is the logical choice because it's designed for an outdoor environ. You may think of it as overkill or don't want to spend a few extra dollars to buy it, I dunno but it's a perfect choice to preserve the finish.
Kevin
Kevin
Have you restored a vacuum. Look at my pic on my profile. Its not losing its sheen at all. You can watch all the you tube videos and restoration of kirby vacuums. I have seen multiple. If you have a show vacuum wax does nothing for it. Seriously look at my 510 i can postva pic right now. There is no wax on it. So why dont i get wax? Its a added residue you have to clean off to get shine of aluminum on vacuum. Unless your driving your vacuum to work and its getting rained on it going to be added residue over natural aluminum.
So maybe i should drive my vacuums maybe i could keep it nice and shiny until wax wears off becomes gooey residue biild up. Well its your vacuum not mine. What do I know.
Have you restored a vacuum. Look at my pic on my profile. Its not losing its sheen at all. You can watch all the you tube videos and restoration of kirby vacuums. I have seen multiple. If you have a show vacuum wax does nothing for it. Seriously look at my 510 i can postva pic right now. There is no wax on it. So why dont i get wax? Its a added residue you have to clean off to get shine of aluminum on vacuum. Unless your driving your vacuum to work and its getting rained on it going to be added residue over natural aluminum.
So maybe i should drive my vacuums maybe i could keep it nice and shiny until wax wears off becomes gooey residue biild up. Well its your vacuum not mine. What do I know.
madman
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Now, now. Some people have different opinions. And experiences. And that's ok.
Wax is usually the final step in perfecting a polish of any kind. Like a car's paint job. Wax is not really a 'coating' per se (wax on, wax off, remember?), it's more like a filler. The idea is that the wax fills up microscopic pores in the finish and makes it appear smoother and shinier than it is on its own, while blocking those pores also prevents moisture (even atmospheric) and dirt from getting stuck in there and either oxidizing the aluminum or just making it look dirty.
Also aluminum can oxidize from humidity, and hey, different geographical locations have different levels of humidity, and therefore different rates of oxidization.
Wax is usually the final step in perfecting a polish of any kind. Like a car's paint job. Wax is not really a 'coating' per se (wax on, wax off, remember?), it's more like a filler. The idea is that the wax fills up microscopic pores in the finish and makes it appear smoother and shinier than it is on its own, while blocking those pores also prevents moisture (even atmospheric) and dirt from getting stuck in there and either oxidizing the aluminum or just making it look dirty.
Also aluminum can oxidize from humidity, and hey, different geographical locations have different levels of humidity, and therefore different rates of oxidization.
real1shep
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<a name="start_36402.391307"></a>I got worked up. My bad.
Yeah you did. I have restored dozens of vacs, none of them Kirby. And I'm telling you that the 'Electrolux' metal finish at least, will not last over the yrs without some sort of coating to preserve it. And I use Mother Mag polish exclusively. I've also used it on steel knife blades that will rust because of the steel used. Same thing...left in a drawer or unmolested, the steel starts to darken and lose its sheen...after using Mother's. So I oil the blades to prevent that. That's not practical on a vac finish.
Just don't even reply to me if you have nothing constructive to say.
Kevin
Yeah you did. I have restored dozens of vacs, none of them Kirby. And I'm telling you that the 'Electrolux' metal finish at least, will not last over the yrs without some sort of coating to preserve it. And I use Mother Mag polish exclusively. I've also used it on steel knife blades that will rust because of the steel used. Same thing...left in a drawer or unmolested, the steel starts to darken and lose its sheen...after using Mother's. So I oil the blades to prevent that. That's not practical on a vac finish.
Just don't even reply to me if you have nothing constructive to say.
Kevin
Kevin
Constructive. You dont bash me by saying I don't understand wax idea. Thats not constructive. I have not used wax so i can't knock it.
This is my personal opinion. I have fixed lots of vacuums and never used wax. I see it as a extra build up to clean up in future. I can polish. I can polish better than most getting metal to look better than most. So i dont need something to cover up imperfections. That is my opinion and why i dont use wax. How is that for constructive. Thanks for your opinion.
No hard feelings sorry if I offended you or anyone.
Les
Constructive. You dont bash me by saying I don't understand wax idea. Thats not constructive. I have not used wax so i can't knock it.
This is my personal opinion. I have fixed lots of vacuums and never used wax. I see it as a extra build up to clean up in future. I can polish. I can polish better than most getting metal to look better than most. So i dont need something to cover up imperfections. That is my opinion and why i dont use wax. How is that for constructive. Thanks for your opinion.
No hard feelings sorry if I offended you or anyone.
Les
