Worlds first BAGGED Dyson is born
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Wow!! I'd bet "James" would not be pleased, lol
Now, if you were here in the U.S. you could enter that in the vac competition at the VCCC convention this summer in Spokane... "Monster Vac".
"Wee Davey' would eat this us, maybe you as well.
Now, if you were here in the U.S. you could enter that in the vac competition at the VCCC convention this summer in Spokane... "Monster Vac".
"Wee Davey' would eat this us, maybe you as well.
This is what happens when I have too much spare time 
New bagged Dyson solves all the problems what the Dyson created
- higher filtration
- extra airflow & suction power
- no more messy bin emptying
- no more clogged cyclones
- no more filter washing
Obviously it's still just a prototype, but working with more potential
New bagged Dyson solves all the problems what the Dyson created
- higher filtration
- extra airflow & suction power
- no more messy bin emptying
- no more clogged cyclones
- no more filter washing
Obviously it's still just a prototype, but working with more potential
huskyvacs
Well-known member
Wow, that April Fools prank really wasn't a prank! The Dyson Ball Bag lives!
Cool idea, Mikko! I'm impressed.
It surprises me that nobody has tried this with a Dyson before. It looked relatively straightforward to do.
Now, find a way to have the bag eject out of the bottom the same way you would normally empty a Dyson. Then you would really be on to something! Talk about hygienic dirt disposal!
It surprises me that nobody has tried this with a Dyson before. It looked relatively straightforward to do.
Now, find a way to have the bag eject out of the bottom the same way you would normally empty a Dyson. Then you would really be on to something! Talk about hygienic dirt disposal!
That's awesome!
There's just something about a bagged Dyson that really gets. Wonder what James would think lol!
Are you going to make a video demonstrating it? And if you don't mind would tell tell us how you made it? I really find custom made stuff interesting.
There's just something about a bagged Dyson that really gets. Wonder what James would think lol!
Are you going to make a video demonstrating it? And if you don't mind would tell tell us how you made it? I really find custom made stuff interesting.
honestjoe68
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@mike811
Hi Mike,
Wow that is a great idea and you do an excellent job in building different vacuums!
I enjoy your videos and like that you share the things you build and create. I had to think of a Hoover that I used to own and love.. I actually wish I’d never sold it.. but maybe I will find another one someday.
Anyhow, It’s so cool how you created a Bagged vacuum from a Bagless and I thought of my old favorite Hoover Savvy 2, Bagged and Bagless vacuum. Hoover sold them with BOTH bins so you could decide if you wanted to go bagless or use the Hoover “Y” style HEPA bags. I think I only used mine as a Bagged vacuum and if I even tried the bagless, it was only to give it a try.
But thanks for sharing and you have a lot of creativity and great ideas... you should help design vacuums for some company. Thanks again!
Patrick
Hi Mike,
Wow that is a great idea and you do an excellent job in building different vacuums!
I enjoy your videos and like that you share the things you build and create. I had to think of a Hoover that I used to own and love.. I actually wish I’d never sold it.. but maybe I will find another one someday.
Anyhow, It’s so cool how you created a Bagged vacuum from a Bagless and I thought of my old favorite Hoover Savvy 2, Bagged and Bagless vacuum. Hoover sold them with BOTH bins so you could decide if you wanted to go bagless or use the Hoover “Y” style HEPA bags. I think I only used mine as a Bagged vacuum and if I even tried the bagless, it was only to give it a try.
But thanks for sharing and you have a lot of creativity and great ideas... you should help design vacuums for some company. Thanks again!
Patrick
@patrick
Years ago I had the Hoover Dual V from Sam's Club to replace my Dirt Devil Vision Swivel Glide (with massive pleated filter). I believe this vacuum was also called the V2. It was basically the same thing as the Savvy/Convertible except it had two counter-rotating brush rolls instead of just one. The agitation was great, but the dirt chamber was not. I recall it came with the bagless bin only. I was not really a fan of the twin chamber bagless system. Having had only bagless vacuums with pleated filters, I came to accept the drop in suction that happened when the bin filled.
The Dual V eventually got replaced by a cheezy green and blue Hoover Fusion, the first dual cyclonic vacuum Hoover introduced in America. That vacuum was my first experience with a vacuum that never lost suction. I finished vacuuming my house with the Fusion and checked the suction through the hose to see if the suction was, in fact, still as strong as it was before. To my astonishment, it hadn't faded at all! The Dual V and Dirt Devil Vision both would have definitely lost a significant amount of performance after cleaning up that much dust. It was then that I realized that vacuum cleaners were entering a new era.
Ever since, I have been a huge appreciator of cyclonic vacuums.
Apologies for my digression.
Years ago I had the Hoover Dual V from Sam's Club to replace my Dirt Devil Vision Swivel Glide (with massive pleated filter). I believe this vacuum was also called the V2. It was basically the same thing as the Savvy/Convertible except it had two counter-rotating brush rolls instead of just one. The agitation was great, but the dirt chamber was not. I recall it came with the bagless bin only. I was not really a fan of the twin chamber bagless system. Having had only bagless vacuums with pleated filters, I came to accept the drop in suction that happened when the bin filled.
The Dual V eventually got replaced by a cheezy green and blue Hoover Fusion, the first dual cyclonic vacuum Hoover introduced in America. That vacuum was my first experience with a vacuum that never lost suction. I finished vacuuming my house with the Fusion and checked the suction through the hose to see if the suction was, in fact, still as strong as it was before. To my astonishment, it hadn't faded at all! The Dual V and Dirt Devil Vision both would have definitely lost a significant amount of performance after cleaning up that much dust. It was then that I realized that vacuum cleaners were entering a new era.
Ever since, I have been a huge appreciator of cyclonic vacuums.
Apologies for my digression.
madman
Well-known member
Wow dude, nice work! You actually made the Dyson BALL BAG.
But hey... as the bag is confined in the bin, won't that hinder airflow through the bag? Clever to cut up the filter holder thing though, I imagine that helps. But doesn't the suction just suck the bag to the walls of the dust bin?
But hey... as the bag is confined in the bin, won't that hinder airflow through the bag? Clever to cut up the filter holder thing though, I imagine that helps. But doesn't the suction just suck the bag to the walls of the dust bin?
Thanks guys!
There is video coming today.
I quite didn't get the airflow increase what I was aiming for. Looks like it's not just the cyclones what limit the airflow.
Piping from the floorhead to the bin is full of narrow and sharp bends. Transition from the bin inlet to the bag is also a bit too sharp.
Well at least I now get 65 cfm from the hose end when it originally was 55 cfm.
I have to do smoother adapter for the bag and hope it will increase the airflow.
Also making sure it is truly sealed need to be checked.
Also my DIY canister vac is waiting DC14 bin/cyclone to arrive from the UK
There is video coming today.
I quite didn't get the airflow increase what I was aiming for. Looks like it's not just the cyclones what limit the airflow.
Piping from the floorhead to the bin is full of narrow and sharp bends. Transition from the bin inlet to the bag is also a bit too sharp.
Well at least I now get 65 cfm from the hose end when it originally was 55 cfm.
I have to do smoother adapter for the bag and hope it will increase the airflow.
Also making sure it is truly sealed need to be checked.
Also my DIY canister vac is waiting DC14 bin/cyclone to arrive from the UK
I like your enginuity and look forward to the video.
I, too, like to build vacuums sometimes. I have been known to take old vacuum motors and make vacuum cleaners of my own design with them. Incidentally, when I got the Hoover Fusion I mentioned earlier, I disassembled my worn out Hoover Dual V and took the motor out. I made the discovery that the suction motor could be wedges perfectly inside a two-liter soda bottle with the bottom cut off. I put the motor inside a cut up bottle, put the bottle inside a bucket, filled the bucket with old rags (sound insulation), and drilled holes in the bucket to diffuse the exhausted air after it blew through the old rags. What I describe doesn’t seem very elegant, but dare I say, it was. It was quiet and powerful! I stacked another 5-gallon bucket on top of the unit I just described to form the bag chamber. Inside would go a HEPA Kirby bag. This was my garage vac for a while.
I would also put together cyclonic systems periodically. I would use these cyclones in place of the bag. I would make cyclones out of anything I could get my hands on that was cone-shaped. One cyclone which I made out of a tapered thermos was particularly effective. I even cleaned my fireplace with it!
I have a spare used bin and cyclone assembly for my Dyson Cinetic upright. I have been throwing around the idea of attaching this thing to my shop vac and setting it up to run all day just sucking in air from outside. Where I live, the wind blows hard and frequently turns the sky brown with dust. I am curious to see how well the ultra-efficient Cinetic cyclones could purify this dusty air.
A cyclone system from a Dyson Cinetic might be a neat thing to try with your homemade vacuum.
Keep experimenting!
I, too, like to build vacuums sometimes. I have been known to take old vacuum motors and make vacuum cleaners of my own design with them. Incidentally, when I got the Hoover Fusion I mentioned earlier, I disassembled my worn out Hoover Dual V and took the motor out. I made the discovery that the suction motor could be wedges perfectly inside a two-liter soda bottle with the bottom cut off. I put the motor inside a cut up bottle, put the bottle inside a bucket, filled the bucket with old rags (sound insulation), and drilled holes in the bucket to diffuse the exhausted air after it blew through the old rags. What I describe doesn’t seem very elegant, but dare I say, it was. It was quiet and powerful! I stacked another 5-gallon bucket on top of the unit I just described to form the bag chamber. Inside would go a HEPA Kirby bag. This was my garage vac for a while.
I would also put together cyclonic systems periodically. I would use these cyclones in place of the bag. I would make cyclones out of anything I could get my hands on that was cone-shaped. One cyclone which I made out of a tapered thermos was particularly effective. I even cleaned my fireplace with it!
I have a spare used bin and cyclone assembly for my Dyson Cinetic upright. I have been throwing around the idea of attaching this thing to my shop vac and setting it up to run all day just sucking in air from outside. Where I live, the wind blows hard and frequently turns the sky brown with dust. I am curious to see how well the ultra-efficient Cinetic cyclones could purify this dusty air.
A cyclone system from a Dyson Cinetic might be a neat thing to try with your homemade vacuum.
Keep experimenting!
vacuumdevil
Well-known member
You should continue making these and offer them on eBay.
That would be a quick way to refurbish and fix a lot of vacuums.
That would be a quick way to refurbish and fix a lot of vacuums.
singingrainbow
Well-known member
That looks awesome! I look forward to seeing the video.
I also look forward to seeing your kirby dust deputy setup. I set up a dust deputy for my kirbys last summer, it works pretty well but my set up is a little bulky. I'd bet yours will be much better!
I also look forward to seeing your kirby dust deputy setup. I set up a dust deputy for my kirbys last summer, it works pretty well but my set up is a little bulky. I'd bet yours will be much better!
compactc9guy
Well-known member
question
Would that over heath the motor it was nit desing to have a bag ?
Would that over heath the motor it was nit desing to have a bag ?
Motor is fine with the bag setup. Major air flow loss comes from the internal piping. Piping eats 18 cfm in this Dyson. Cyclone system eats 24 cfm. Bagged bin eats almost the same as the cyclones because of the sharp bend leading to the bag. I have to redesign the adapter leading to the bag. None of my bagged vacuums limit so much airflow like this.
Just think:
a ball sac... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
a ball sac... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Present THAT to
research and development!
research and development!
No joking afterall-The bagged bin is an interesting experiment-too bad that didn't work out better.Frankly the Dyson should be redesigned from the ground up-just too many twists and turns in the airpath-and too long.and to add to this is the changing shape of the airducts.the bagged bin still could be good for folks with allergies.
