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I'm throwing this out there due to the cleaner's rarity and am assuming I'm not breaking any rules. There's an old AirWay upright with an electrified nozzle up for auction and the brushroll looks decent. I thought someone might appreciate knowing of it. I have no association with the seller.

A question . . . the power nozzle for the old AirWay upright was a first and pretty advanced for its time -- correct? Any idea why it did not become an add-on or offering for canisters and tank-types back in the 1930s and '40s?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1930s-...ltDomain_0&hash=item1c246e9306#ht_1081wt_1094
 
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Wow that roll easy looks beautiful I wonder just how crazy the bidding will get on that machine I suspect it will reach over $150 in no time. Zach
 
@goadie12 . . .

Hi,

There's no telling because these usually don't turn up often. One I saw a few years back pulled down a final bid of several hundred dollars. Still another one's sold just this month, about eight days ago, for a little under two hundred. Then again, from the images I saw posted, it looked a little worse for the wear internally.

Kind of funny when you think of it, the machine would have priced at no more than eighty or ninety when new. Anyway -- such is life. Good luck to the winning bidder.
 
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Electrolux XXX with disposable bag adapter . . .

Just happened to be looking about eBay and up turned a pretty grungy looking Electrolux Model XXX. So what else is new? Grungy Electrolux XXXs are always around. However it comes with the front cover for adapting it to disposable bag use which doesn't turn up often.

The item is not in spectacular shape but for those with restoration skills it may prove interesting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/electrolux-...pt=US_Vacuum&hash=item3a722e39ee#ht_661wt_802
 
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Venson:

You would be absolutely amazed how long it took vacuum designers to get to the "DUHHHH!" moment with power nozzles.

Electrolux, first manufacturer with a PN meeting with widespread acceptance (yes, I know they were not the very first with a PN), first had the bright idea to attach a PN-like device to the front of their cleaner, instead of to the hose. This, of course, necessitated adding a handle to the rear of the cleaner. Which meant that Electrolux had basically succeeded in inventing - the upright vacuum cleaner! All over again. Only bulkier and harder to push.

Fortunately, the light bulb finally went off over someone's head (quite possibly after having taken a gander at Lewyt's PN), and the PN-1 was born. Even then, Electrolux DIDN'T GET IT. They thought it was going to be used occasionally, when carpet had surface litter on it. A wand made completely out of plastic was used on early PN-1s, which proved to be woefully insufficient. Housewives saw the PN-1 as being a very useful tool, meaning they used the heck out of it - and soon broke the wands. Breaking a new, and expensive, appliance just by using it had a tendency to make 1959 housewives, well, kind of cranky. Faced with their wrath, Electrolux finally saw the light and beefed up the wand. The improvement resulted in a truly usable PN offered by a manufacturer with a huge base of loyal customers, so that was the real beginning of the PN revolution.

You can see a patent drawing for the Lux PN attached to the front of a canister here; click on the button for "Electrolux Power Nozzle No. 1":

http://www.vodhin.org/Vacuum/PN/
 
@truckerx . . .

Hi truckerx,

That AirWay is not mine. Its hard to speculate what the seller wanted when the post was made.

However, due to its rarity -- and only because of rarity -- I wouldn't think of letting go of a machine like that without an offer near the $300 mark. It appears quite well kept and the bristles on the brushroll seem to be in great shape considering the cleaners age.

Vacuum collecting has not bred a big market but if you have something collectors really want the sky's the limit. Personally, I've spent way beyond the original purchase price of a machine that, to my mind, was a "must have". If you're seriously interested in the machine, you should try to track the seller down on eBay and learn if the machine's still available.

Best of luck,

Venson
 
@danemodsandy

Hi,

Thanks for the info and the link. Everything to its own time I guess. Even though some vacs with PN's like Electrolux used not overly sophisticated external cording to get power to the nozzle, I'm assuming development might also have been delayed/hindered by way of short supply of materials during the 1940s and early '50s -- maybe due to the need for materials elsewhere because of World War II.

By the way, an eon ago when I was actually a child, I wrote to Electrolux in Greenwich, CT and they sent me a booklet containing some of their history plus pictures of the Electrolux Museum. They showed some really interesting design ideas for the time. Do you think any of that stuff is still around?

Venson
 
Chromed Compact

Could be a promo, but it also MIGHT be a prop from the movie "Gattaca." That film used a Revelation that had been chromed. Charlie Lester's page on Compacts discusses it a bit and shows the cleaner as it appeared in the film. The photo appears identical with the eBay cleaner:

http://www.1377731.com/compact/
 
@danemodsandy . . .

Hi,

This one bears "Compact Electra" and the handle is not white as Charlie Lester's image shows but more an amber colored plastic -- maybe with the gold flecks the company used in some of its molded plastic attachments. Anyway -- it's interesting but I think the seller would help his/her cause a lot more by providing a background story unless . . .
 
Venson:

There were multiple vacs used in Gattaca, so perhaps this still could be one of them. The seller's location, Southern California, is consistent with movie use; stuff finds its way out of studio prop shops all the time.

However, it would be incumbent upon the seller to prove that. Also, chroming a Compact/Revelation/TriStar would be a very expensive proposition, several hundred dollars at least. I have to wonder who besides Hollywood would want to pay the cost for doing it.

Not saying one way or the other, but it's an interesting possibility.
 
General Electric C3...

... Take a look at this. It's a CE C3 canister. Wow, do I have some history with these.

I work with a fellow, now 89 years old, who has a number of rental properies. Since he started his business in the 70's he's been using these GE C3's as his main vacuum.

As long as I can remember (he's a family friend and I've known him since I was a kid), he's been using two of these in rotation. That's for decades. Of course, he never serviced his vacuums or even really took care of them. They are now in terrible shape and perform awfully. The woven hoses are leaky and structurally unsound. Sometimes the metal inside the hose breaks and the structure collapses. The woven sheath will constrict and the hose at that point will be less than half of the original diamenter. He's cut the hose and spliced it at that point several times when it's happened, and now the hose is too short to use effectively. Sometimes he will use duct tape to wrap the hose when it develops a puncture. The hose itself is held onto the vacuum body with a kind of rubberband sling that he's fashioned out of a cut innertube from a car tire.

One of the vacs pooped out but the motor on the other one still works, surprisingly. The bags for these are a cloth shakeout bag. HORRIBLE! There is only the leaky cloth shakeout bag and no other filtration. I used to vacuum the hallways with this vac and spit out lots of mucus streaked with black dust after I was done. I tried to empty the shakeout bag into a plastic shopping back to contain the dust but it was very messy.

After a while the vac had almost no suction because of the leaky hoses and connections. I remember trying to vacuum with it and the suction was so low that I wouldn't have been able to pick up a styrofoam packing peanut with it. Also, vacuuming took two hours or more. Now that I got wise and am using a better vacuum, it takes less than half that time.

And yet he insists on using that old vac. He says my other vacs are s***ty and won't touch them. How's that for a stubborn old guy who can't be constrained by common sense?

When he got the C3 he liked them so much that there are somthing like 8 or 10 C3 bodies hanging from a rod in the back exit of the building. All are rusted to some degree and who knows if they work?

Anyway, I though I'd post this as I was shocked to see how much the seller is asking. The hose is clearly different than the one I know, which is woven and beige in color.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gen...mod=190652021551&ps=63&clkid=7209040513343662
 
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Rainbow SE . . .

More for the sake of history, I am including a link to this eBay post only because this machine is being sold with the five-gallon water pan.

Many haven't seen them or even know they exist. Also, many may never get the chance to see one of these or the earlier wheeled four-quart water pan that came as an option with the Model B and C Rexairs.

Disclaimer: I neither know nor have any business affiliation with the seller.

Venson

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rainbow-Tec...t=US_Vacuum&hash=item3f159a403c#ht_500wt_1064
 
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