Why I like Dyson

[singingrainbow]

I also have a dc01, and early one with the early lettering style before they had their logo down. I also want to get a dc04 one day, I imagine since most of the 04 is similar to an 07 a 120v dc07 motor could be fitted but I'm not positive.

 

[desiredname]

Here are some shots of my DC01. The dual cyclone machines are nice because it is easy to keep the cyclone cleaned out.

 

[broomvac]

@desiredname

Wow. I’m envious. That’s a great collection you have there. A DC01 is at the top of my “wanted” list. Up there with it are the other DC02-DC07 models and a Lighting/Destiny canister. Really, any Kenmore Destiny would be awesome!

I may not have a DC01, but I am lucky enough to have a complete Amway CMS 1000, the DC01’s “illegitimate” sibling. I could be wrong, but I think this is the only(?) CMS 1000 on this site which was produced early enough to have all of the original designs. It has the smaller (and more efficient) cyclone tip, the ring around the cyclone, the perfectly cylindrical clear bin, and the large fine dust collection chamber. It is my understanding that the designs of all of these parts were changed shortly after the CMS 1000 was introduced because they infringed on Dyson’s parents. Even though this vacuum was unfair to Dyson, I still like it because it’s an interesting piece of vacuum history. And yes, I do use it to clean my house from time to time. Things are meant to be used, no?

I’ve included my other early dual cyclonic vacuums here, too.

 

[superocd]

Wow, a lot of passion on both sides!

It's no different in anything else. Cars, computers, and even HVAC, where a lot of guys are pro-Carrier, pro-Trane/American Standard (that would be me right here, even though I work in a Carrier shop, lol), pro-Rheem and so on. The common denominator in HVAC circles is that a lot of people tend to put down Goodman. In my opinion, Goodman has a bad reputation because the company sells to anyone, not just authorized and licensed distributors and dealers/installers, so the so-called "horrible" Goodman products are usually nothing more than the cause a bad install, which is not the fault of Goodman. Are they the best thing out there? No, but given a proper install, they're decent. In my opinion, Trane, Rheem and Carrier (in that order) take the cake on the best units, but then again, it's my opinion and I totally respect the opinions and viewpoints of others (for example, a seasoned veteran feels that Trane/American Standard falls short in its spine-finned condenser design as it could collect and retain things like dryer lint, dog hair, etc., which would be hard to remove) and I have only been on the job for less than four years. Any system will fail much sooner if someone who isn't trained performs the install. HVAC is so granular we even bicker about commercial reach in fridges. I can't stand True reach ins or any of the low-end makes like Turbo Air (I think McCall and Traulsen have a superior design, since everything is at the top and easily accessible), but a lot of guys love them.

Anyway, back to vacuums, I can see why people love Dysons and dislike Kirbys. To be fair, a Kirby is on the heavy side, the attachments take time to set up and AFAIK, I'm not sure that the most expensive Dyson comes close to the price of a brand-new Kirby at full price. I also recognize that Dysons can and do live out reasonably long service lives. My aunt Kim has a Dyson Animal (not sure what model exactly) from 2006 that is still running today and has never seen a service center AFAIK. Likewise, I'm sure there have been a few Kirby vacuums that have burned up in less than two years, even in the hands of a careful owner.

 

[madman]

I didn't know Goodman had a bad rep. I (personally) installed a Goodman high efficiency furnace in my previous house, and it worked for the ~9 years we lived there. Granted, it needed an inducer motor once, but like... pssh, big deal. Actually, we took the A/C condenser unit with us when we moved, and that's still working in our new house, it's at least 15 years old now.

I think you're right though, it's really up to the installer/owner. It's the same with cars. Me personally, I like Chryslers. Everyone else craps on them all the time, claiming how 'unreliable' they are. As I'm a mechanic, I know the truth of the situation. Because Chryslers are cheap, they're often owned by poor people who drive them into the ground and do no maintenance whatsoever. So, gee, I wonder why they're so 'unreliable.'

I'd imagine - to a certain point - the same truth extends to vacuum cleaners.

 

[dysonman1]

I love my vintage Dysons. From the Antarctica Solo DC01 and DC02, to the first Dyson with a power nozzle, the DC05 MotorHead. While my Cyclon is the most rare, second would be the ReCyclone (recycled Dyson DC02). Thanks to Doug Smith for making a heavy duty outlet/shut off in which I can run my 240 volt machines. I recently shampooed with my Dyson DC04 Zorbster. The old Dysons were fabulous.

 

[superocd]

@madman, you actually took the condenser with you when you moved? That's unheard of! Heck, most people think removing a dishwasher and taking it with them would be a big task to undertake so they leave it there. Condensers would be totally off the table for them. Did you remove it yourself or have an HVAC service do it?

For it to do a 15-year run with no problems *on top* of the 9 years at your original house, I guess you had it installed properly and sized accordingly, and it proves that Goodman (or just about anything) can last given that it was installed and serviced properly.

 

[mike811]

I do like my DC40 mkII (Dyson Ball Multi Floor 2 ). It's very light to handle due to the motor in the ball = low center of gravity. Brushroll is very powerful in this model. It has seriously good agitation. Also the filters stay clean a very long time.
My main complaint is just that the airflow is low so it really can't clean medium to high pile carpets well as the bagged vacuums.
That's my opinion.

 

[madman]

@superocd lol I know it's weird, right? Truth be told, we were being foreclosed, so we took anything we needed for the new place. Of course my father and I did all the work like that, including taking the condenser - we installed it! We're not HVAC guys, but we kind of are, because we do automotive A/C. We took our recovery machine from work and used the unused R12 side of the system to recover the R22, cut the condenser unit off and reversed the process at the new place.

I would buy Goodman again. They've yet to let me down.

 

[turbo500]

I don’t like Kirby OR Dyson Go figure.

Kirby’s are fantastic performers and reliable but I find them too heavy, too loud, too big, too much of a pain to convert to tools and don’t agree with the dirty sales tactics.

Dyson’s are a cheap heap of plastic and the cordless models are just glorified dustbusters with an insane price tag. Dyson’s whole success is based on clever marketing and lies, not the performance of the cleaners.

 

[holeefuk]

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[vacfan1982]

Dyson cordless vacs are way overpriced that is true. I love my V8, I find it very convenient to use for quick clean ups between using my mains cleaners.

As I've said many times the latest Dysons such as the light ball perform very well. They are a match for my Sebo Felix. My preference is for bagged cleaners but Dysons are a pleasure to use, for me anyway

 

[kirbylux77]

Hey Marcus, how's it hanging Bash Brother? Missed seeing you around here!

Now let's troll these beeotches, like Alex, & stir the pot a bit

 

[electroluxxxx]

Thinking about it, I tend to use my V6 weekly for quick cleanups here and there. The DC40 (half ball) I have, I used when my basement was redone to clean up most of the fine concrete dust that was all over the floor and other surfaces. To my surprise, it took quite a while for the middle filter to plug and what’s even more surprising is that inside where the hepa resides is still clean. I have then since switched to using a pro aqua in my basement for cleaning the concrete dust because it’s a little more effective with the 14’ of hose and I don’t care for it all that much so if something happened to it, I’m not out anything. However I think I want to fix the ball on the Dyson at some point and give it a good cleaning and use it for other things since it’s in such good shape still. Has anyone tried or gotten their hands on a kinetic? If so how is the performance? I have heard mixed reviews.

 

[vacfan1982]

Bash brother haha. It's hanging to the left

 

[eurekaprince]

One of the reasons Consumer Reports recently downgraded all the tested Dyson stick vacs is due to the early death of their batteries. After about 5 years of use, the batteries die and along with it, the vac itself. Who wants to go out and pay another $600 every 5 years?

Dyson must start to offer swappable batteries in the future if they don’t want to lose their customer base.

Also, a “stay on” power button would make the vacs more comfortable to use.

 

[vacfan1982]

I agree with you Brian. I wouldn't pay $600 if they had removable batteries. I know they invested a lot of money into R&D but they are not worth more than £250 of anyones mone

 

[rdwdcp]

I love Dyson

I love Dyson Especially my DC07 Standard witch is 15 years old and still works well today. here is a picture of it next to my DC07 All Floors.

 

[crazykirbydude]

I wonder if it would be possible to install a 120 volt DC07 motor in a Dyson DC04 so that it could be used stateside without a bulky converter box?

 

[rdwdcp]

crazykirbydude

do you like dyson

 

[crazykirbydude]

Absolutely positively NOT!!! I do, however, like the look of the older models.

 

[rdwdcp]

I love Dyson

My Dyson DC07 Standard is 15 years old and still works really well today. Dysons are awesome.

 

[crazykirbydude]

I've never liked using any Dyson. There is almost no airflow, which means that you'll be going over the same spot over and over again in a vain attempt to pick up a stray piece of thread. Also, they make their brushrolls overly aggressive on the carpeting, most likely in an attempt to compensate for the poor airflow. The final kicker is the cheap plastic that falls apart over time, especially on the older models.

 

[rdwdcp]

My DC07 Standard picks up and it has good airflow my Dyson DC07 Standard has got strong suction

 

[broomvac]

My DC07 has a lot of power, and it shows. It extracts plenty of sand from my carpets. The same goes for my UP13, UP14’s, and UP20.

 

[huskyvacs]

You can tell by how dark and matted it is, that stuff was trampled in for a long time.

I have seen several pro carpet cleaners on YouTube that use off the shelf Dysons (the older uprights, never the ball cleaners) to pre-vacuum carpets before cleaning. Then they shampoo, extract and let the carpet dry, rake the nap, then vacuum again once the carpet has been groomed to remove more dirt that got stirred up from the orbital scrubber, the rinse sprayer, and the grooming rake.

 

[mike811]

Here is some of my thoughts about Dyson uprights

+ They look very different and cool
+ Usability is often great
+ Technical innovations (pushing bagless technology forward)
+ Cyclonic system is by far the best in the industry
+ Great filtration
+ Availability of spare parts
+ Very high agitation in their latest ball models + DC17
+ High suction levels

- Weak airflow (tested by many channels in youtube)
- Very flexible plastic in many newer ball models
- Narrow and complicated air paths
- Cyclone pack doesn't come apart easily for cleaning
- Older models have very weak agitation (DC01-DC65, not upgraded ball models or DC17)
- Older models are super noisy

So I always find bad and good features regardless of the vacuum brand.
I don't have any certain favorite vac brand.

 

[rdwdcp]

sorry I put witch instead of which. my mistake.

 

[human]

I wouldn't even take a Dyson for free...

About a year ago, I was at the back door of a thrift shop, helping a friend load up a piece of furniture she'd bought and there was some sort of yellow plasticrap Dyson* sitting there with a piece of paper taped to it that said "Free". I could see that it needed a new plug on the end of the cord, but I wasn't even remotely interested enough to look at it further.

For me, a filter bag is a 'must' and the more metal in the construction, the better. I couldn't give a rip about a vacuum--or any other appliance looking outdated. My favorite machines that I own are between 30 and 50 years old. I seriously doubt any Dyson currently in existence will still be operable 30-50 years from now. I just don't understand why people think dirt cups and clogged filters are such a great idea. Of course, if that's what the industry feeds people, sooner or later they'll think that's all there is on the buffet.

*I wouldn't know one Dyson model from another. They all look like cheap plastic toys to me. I mean, c'mon, who designed those things? Fisher Price?

 

[jo]

Interesting observation on this thread. A lot of comparison of Dyson to Kirby but NO comparisons of Dyson to Aerus/Electrolux. Hmm seems to me there is no comparison. Aerus is just far superior...lexan virtually indestructible plastic. Versatile combination attachments. Warranty...ease of use, longevity...ease in emptying...the list goes on...every Dyson I’ve tried is no comparison to even my 35 year old Electrolux Silverado. Yes the Aerus’s and US Electrolux’s may lose suction due to the bag filling with dirt but a Dyson does require the nasty filter cleaning. The aerus Electrolux is simple to change the bag and the dirt is sealed in and every time you change the bag suction is fully restored. I just consider a Dyson nothing more than an overpriced big box store vacuum. I’ll give it the best bagless design for preventing dirt from clogging the filter but it still will happen over time just a longer time than others. I used a Dyson upright and found it very heavy and awkward to use on carpet and couldn’t get under any furniture period. Tried a canister and the rotating brush nozzle was turbo driven and a very poor performer at that and the suction on the canister even with a clean filter was just so so. Some of the attachments were already broken in this 2 year old Dyson canister. Tried a practically new Dyson ball upright. An underperforming product for the price. Still heavy...still couldn’t get completely under furniture only the nozzle head partway and it was generally awkward to use and forget easily switching to attachment hose mode...rather frustrating.

Being a person who cleans very thoroughly in all the corners, along the tops of baseboards, cobwebs up high, bugs and dirt in windowsills, crumbs and pet hair in couches and furniture I still find the Electrolux or Aerus especially the canister models the easiest and most versatile to use to switch modes fast and deal with the dirt the machine has collected is never never an issue. I do t see the dirt, touch the dirt, or breathe the dirt. A Dyson bagless, the dust will still always cling to the outside of the plastic bucket when you empty it as this is a static electricity issue requiring the step of now wiping the bin down with a wet rag or paper towel...and if you are remotely worried about allergies or breathing dirt, you have to go outside to empty it and wear a dust mask. Yeah I might not have to buy bags but I have to buy dust masks and use paper towels.

And Dysons plastic brush roll bristles are hard and can damage some carpet. The Aerus Electrolux power nozzle which is also on their upright is self adjusting and I’ve never come across a carpet thick or thin, low or high pile, it won’t clean nicely.

I’m glad I never wasted money on a Dyson and I do not recommend them to anyone who wants a vacuum brand recommendation as most people know I like vacuums. First I recommend the Aerus Electrolux and if they don’t want to spend that much then I just recommend some of the newest Shark products. Both US companies interestingly enough though not necessarily all built in the US.