vacfan1982
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See Harley understands me haha 
I changed my face to a troll after I was called one. Did you like it? Haha
I changed my face to a troll after I was called one. Did you like it? Haha
Why I like Dyson
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desiredname
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Kirbysthebest- I think your profile name is exactly the type of thing Marcus is talking about...
kirbysthebest
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Desiredname
Yes, but. . .He got over it a long time ago.
It's not the words, it the attitude.
. . .And I said I was not entering the debate, just defending a friend that has a different opinion.
Yes, but. . .He got over it a long time ago.
It's not the words, it the attitude.
. . .And I said I was not entering the debate, just defending a friend that has a different opinion.
vacfan1982
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I don't really hate Kirby's they have a lot of good points but like every vacuum cleaner they have some bad points too.
My preference is for the bagged vacs I named earlier. I still say the latest Dysons perform well on low pile carpets and they are very easy to manouvre around the easiest uprights I've used.
Thanks Harley I appreciate it
My preference is for the bagged vacs I named earlier. I still say the latest Dysons perform well on low pile carpets and they are very easy to manouvre around the easiest uprights I've used.
Thanks Harley I appreciate it
electroluxxxx
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Marcus
Let’s not forget that they also have one of the best post filtering systems for a bagless cleaner when compared to any other bagless machine on the market. Not including water vacs.
Let’s not forget that they also have one of the best post filtering systems for a bagless cleaner when compared to any other bagless machine on the market. Not including water vacs.
vacfan1982
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Yes that's very true Mike. 
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There are some things I do like about my Dyson DC07. First, despite it being pretty heavy at 19.2 lbs., it's very maneuverable and well-balanced. I'm surprised at how easy it is to push compared to other vacuums I've used.
Next is the hose and attachments. Dyson vacuums feature an incredibly long stretch hose. Combined with the nice, long extension wand, you get 17 feet of reach, which can stretch to the top of an average staircase, so you can leave the vacuum at the bottom.
The attachments are very thoughtfully designed; the dusting brush and upholstery tool have heads that twist to make cleaning certain places easier. The upholstery attachment and crevice tool have vents that channel airflow downward for better pickup without sticking to delicate objects.
Dyson makes the nicest turbo brushes on the market. They are designed so that if you're cleaning something like a pretty dense fabric, the brush will increase in speed rather than slowing down. That's a great example of Dyson engineering!
There are some things I do like about my Dyson DC07. First, despite it being pretty heavy at 19.2 lbs., it's very maneuverable and well-balanced. I'm surprised at how easy it is to push compared to other vacuums I've used.
Next is the hose and attachments. Dyson vacuums feature an incredibly long stretch hose. Combined with the nice, long extension wand, you get 17 feet of reach, which can stretch to the top of an average staircase, so you can leave the vacuum at the bottom.
The attachments are very thoughtfully designed; the dusting brush and upholstery tool have heads that twist to make cleaning certain places easier. The upholstery attachment and crevice tool have vents that channel airflow downward for better pickup without sticking to delicate objects.
Dyson makes the nicest turbo brushes on the market. They are designed so that if you're cleaning something like a pretty dense fabric, the brush will increase in speed rather than slowing down. That's a great example of Dyson engineering!
vacfan1982
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That is good to hear Nick. 
desiredname
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I enjoy my DC01, I like how it spins the dirt freely like my Fantoms. Like watching a little tornado! Plus I l like how the plastic has little metal flakes in it. Much like my Dc07 it gives it a very unique look! Plus how many dc01's are in America? I also found a working DC28 at a thrift store for cheap. That has a very unique clutch system. I wish I could get my hands on a DC01 or Dc02 De stijl. I love the color combo.
crazykirbydude
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I do admit that I do like the design of the classic Dyson machines. AFAIK, there's only one Dyson DC01 in the U.S.A, and it's in the hands of Tom Gasko. I've been thinking about importing a DC04 for just for shits and giggles. Will the DC04 work with a 120V DC07 motor?
singingrainbow
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I also have a dc01, and early one with the early lettering style before they had their logo down. I also want to get a dc04 one day, I imagine since most of the 04 is similar to an 07 a 120v dc07 motor could be fitted but I'm not positive.
desiredname
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Here are some shots of my DC01. The dual cyclone machines are nice because it is easy to keep the cyclone cleaned out.
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Wow. I’m envious. That’s a great collection you have there. A DC01 is at the top of my “wanted” list. Up there with it are the other DC02-DC07 models and a Lighting/Destiny canister. Really, any Kenmore Destiny would be awesome!
I may not have a DC01, but I am lucky enough to have a complete Amway CMS 1000, the DC01’s “illegitimate” sibling. I could be wrong, but I think this is the only(?) CMS 1000 on this site which was produced early enough to have all of the original designs. It has the smaller (and more efficient) cyclone tip, the ring around the cyclone, the perfectly cylindrical clear bin, and the large fine dust collection chamber. It is my understanding that the designs of all of these parts were changed shortly after the CMS 1000 was introduced because they infringed on Dyson’s parents. Even though this vacuum was unfair to Dyson, I still like it because it’s an interesting piece of vacuum history. And yes, I do use it to clean my house from time to time. Things are meant to be used, no?
I’ve included my other early dual cyclonic vacuums here, too.
Wow. I’m envious. That’s a great collection you have there. A DC01 is at the top of my “wanted” list. Up there with it are the other DC02-DC07 models and a Lighting/Destiny canister. Really, any Kenmore Destiny would be awesome!
I may not have a DC01, but I am lucky enough to have a complete Amway CMS 1000, the DC01’s “illegitimate” sibling. I could be wrong, but I think this is the only(?) CMS 1000 on this site which was produced early enough to have all of the original designs. It has the smaller (and more efficient) cyclone tip, the ring around the cyclone, the perfectly cylindrical clear bin, and the large fine dust collection chamber. It is my understanding that the designs of all of these parts were changed shortly after the CMS 1000 was introduced because they infringed on Dyson’s parents. Even though this vacuum was unfair to Dyson, I still like it because it’s an interesting piece of vacuum history. And yes, I do use it to clean my house from time to time. Things are meant to be used, no?
I’ve included my other early dual cyclonic vacuums here, too.
Wow, a lot of passion on both sides!
It's no different in anything else. Cars, computers, and even HVAC, where a lot of guys are pro-Carrier, pro-Trane/American Standard (that would be me right here, even though I work in a Carrier shop, lol), pro-Rheem and so on. The common denominator in HVAC circles is that a lot of people tend to put down Goodman. In my opinion, Goodman has a bad reputation because the company sells to anyone, not just authorized and licensed distributors and dealers/installers, so the so-called "horrible" Goodman products are usually nothing more than the cause a bad install, which is not the fault of Goodman. Are they the best thing out there? No, but given a proper install, they're decent. In my opinion, Trane, Rheem and Carrier (in that order) take the cake on the best units, but then again, it's my opinion and I totally respect the opinions and viewpoints of others (for example, a seasoned veteran feels that Trane/American Standard falls short in its spine-finned condenser design as it could collect and retain things like dryer lint, dog hair, etc., which would be hard to remove) and I have only been on the job for less than four years. Any system will fail much sooner if someone who isn't trained performs the install. HVAC is so granular we even bicker about commercial reach in fridges. I can't stand True reach ins or any of the low-end makes like Turbo Air (I think McCall and Traulsen have a superior design, since everything is at the top and easily accessible), but a lot of guys love them.
Anyway, back to vacuums, I can see why people love Dysons and dislike Kirbys. To be fair, a Kirby is on the heavy side, the attachments take time to set up and AFAIK, I'm not sure that the most expensive Dyson comes close to the price of a brand-new Kirby at full price. I also recognize that Dysons can and do live out reasonably long service lives. My aunt Kim has a Dyson Animal (not sure what model exactly) from 2006 that is still running today and has never seen a service center AFAIK. Likewise, I'm sure there have been a few Kirby vacuums that have burned up in less than two years, even in the hands of a careful owner.
It's no different in anything else. Cars, computers, and even HVAC, where a lot of guys are pro-Carrier, pro-Trane/American Standard (that would be me right here, even though I work in a Carrier shop, lol), pro-Rheem and so on. The common denominator in HVAC circles is that a lot of people tend to put down Goodman. In my opinion, Goodman has a bad reputation because the company sells to anyone, not just authorized and licensed distributors and dealers/installers, so the so-called "horrible" Goodman products are usually nothing more than the cause a bad install, which is not the fault of Goodman. Are they the best thing out there? No, but given a proper install, they're decent. In my opinion, Trane, Rheem and Carrier (in that order) take the cake on the best units, but then again, it's my opinion and I totally respect the opinions and viewpoints of others (for example, a seasoned veteran feels that Trane/American Standard falls short in its spine-finned condenser design as it could collect and retain things like dryer lint, dog hair, etc., which would be hard to remove) and I have only been on the job for less than four years. Any system will fail much sooner if someone who isn't trained performs the install. HVAC is so granular we even bicker about commercial reach in fridges. I can't stand True reach ins or any of the low-end makes like Turbo Air (I think McCall and Traulsen have a superior design, since everything is at the top and easily accessible), but a lot of guys love them.
Anyway, back to vacuums, I can see why people love Dysons and dislike Kirbys. To be fair, a Kirby is on the heavy side, the attachments take time to set up and AFAIK, I'm not sure that the most expensive Dyson comes close to the price of a brand-new Kirby at full price. I also recognize that Dysons can and do live out reasonably long service lives. My aunt Kim has a Dyson Animal (not sure what model exactly) from 2006 that is still running today and has never seen a service center AFAIK. Likewise, I'm sure there have been a few Kirby vacuums that have burned up in less than two years, even in the hands of a careful owner.
madman
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I didn't know Goodman had a bad rep. I (personally) installed a Goodman high efficiency furnace in my previous house, and it worked for the ~9 years we lived there. Granted, it needed an inducer motor once, but like... pssh, big deal. Actually, we took the A/C condenser unit with us when we moved, and that's still working in our new house, it's at least 15 years old now.
I think you're right though, it's really up to the installer/owner. It's the same with cars. Me personally, I like Chryslers. Everyone else craps on them all the time, claiming how 'unreliable' they are. As I'm a mechanic, I know the truth of the situation. Because Chryslers are cheap, they're often owned by poor people who drive them into the ground and do no maintenance whatsoever. So, gee, I wonder why they're so 'unreliable.'
I'd imagine - to a certain point - the same truth extends to vacuum cleaners.
I think you're right though, it's really up to the installer/owner. It's the same with cars. Me personally, I like Chryslers. Everyone else craps on them all the time, claiming how 'unreliable' they are. As I'm a mechanic, I know the truth of the situation. Because Chryslers are cheap, they're often owned by poor people who drive them into the ground and do no maintenance whatsoever. So, gee, I wonder why they're so 'unreliable.'
I'd imagine - to a certain point - the same truth extends to vacuum cleaners.
dysonman1
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I love my vintage Dysons. From the Antarctica Solo DC01 and DC02, to the first Dyson with a power nozzle, the DC05 MotorHead. While my Cyclon is the most rare, second would be the ReCyclone (recycled Dyson DC02). Thanks to Doug Smith for making a heavy duty outlet/shut off in which I can run my 240 volt machines. I recently shampooed with my Dyson DC04 Zorbster. The old Dysons were fabulous.
@madman, you actually took the condenser with you when you moved? That's unheard of! Heck, most people think removing a dishwasher and taking it with them would be a big task to undertake so they leave it there. Condensers would be totally off the table for them. Did you remove it yourself or have an HVAC service do it?
For it to do a 15-year run with no problems *on top* of the 9 years at your original house, I guess you had it installed properly and sized accordingly, and it proves that Goodman (or just about anything) can last given that it was installed and serviced properly.
For it to do a 15-year run with no problems *on top* of the 9 years at your original house, I guess you had it installed properly and sized accordingly, and it proves that Goodman (or just about anything) can last given that it was installed and serviced properly.
I do like my DC40 mkII (Dyson Ball Multi Floor 2 ). It's very light to handle due to the motor in the ball = low center of gravity. Brushroll is very powerful in this model. It has seriously good agitation. Also the filters stay clean a very long time.
My main complaint is just that the airflow is low so it really can't clean medium to high pile carpets well as the bagged vacuums.
That's my opinion.
My main complaint is just that the airflow is low so it really can't clean medium to high pile carpets well as the bagged vacuums.
That's my opinion.
madman
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@superocd lol I know it's weird, right? Truth be told, we were being foreclosed, so we took anything we needed for the new place. Of course my father and I did all the work like that, including taking the condenser - we installed it! We're not HVAC guys, but we kind of are, because we do automotive A/C. We took our recovery machine from work and used the unused R12 side of the system to recover the R22, cut the condenser unit off and reversed the process at the new place. 
I would buy Goodman again. They've yet to let me down.
I would buy Goodman again. They've yet to let me down.
turbo500
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I don’t like Kirby OR Dyson 
Go figure.
Kirby’s are fantastic performers and reliable but I find them too heavy, too loud, too big, too much of a pain to convert to tools and don’t agree with the dirty sales tactics.
Dyson’s are a cheap heap of plastic and the cordless models are just glorified dustbusters with an insane price tag. Dyson’s whole success is based on clever marketing and lies, not the performance of the cleaners.
Go figure. Kirby’s are fantastic performers and reliable but I find them too heavy, too loud, too big, too much of a pain to convert to tools and don’t agree with the dirty sales tactics.
Dyson’s are a cheap heap of plastic and the cordless models are just glorified dustbusters with an insane price tag. Dyson’s whole success is based on clever marketing and lies, not the performance of the cleaners.
