vintagerepairer
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No idea. I had the sound off.
which do you prefer
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I have three Riccar tandem air vacuums-honestly-the complex airpath negates the performance.I find direct air only vacuums such as Kirbys,Royals,Sanitaires,and Hoover Convertibles are better-and draw less current.If you use the tandem air machine-make sure no other appliances are on the circuit you are using it on-otherwise it trips breakers.Two 6A motors going at once.When you use the hose-only the clean air motor runs.and the tandem air vacs can clog easily-new models have trap doors on the airpath so you can remove clogs.For their prices---Kirbys and the others are better.
kirbysthebest
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Tandem air
Maybe this will help.
See screen name for preference
http://www.tacony.com/news/pdf/Tandom_Air.pdf
Maybe this will help.
See screen name for preference
http://www.tacony.com/news/pdf/Tandom_Air.pdf
kirbysthebest
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This shows somewhat of a cross
This is the Riccar site.
They are not bad machines. For the price I feel a little flimsy, but good cleaners from what I've seen.
http://www.riccar.com/products/uprights/index.asp?prod=RADP&doc=9=:
This is the Riccar site.
They are not bad machines. For the price I feel a little flimsy, but good cleaners from what I've seen.
http://www.riccar.com/products/uprights/index.asp?prod=RADP&doc=9=:
gsheen
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as far as I know the tandem air works like this,
for carpets the machine uses the dirty air motor to give that great cleaning but when you use the tools it uses the clean air motor, that's why the ducting is so complicated. I will admit I have only ever seen and worked on one of these machines and that's how it worked, you do not get Riccar in SA , it was brought back from the states by its owner
for carpets the machine uses the dirty air motor to give that great cleaning but when you use the tools it uses the clean air motor, that's why the ducting is so complicated. I will admit I have only ever seen and worked on one of these machines and that's how it worked, you do not get Riccar in SA , it was brought back from the states by its owner
gsheen
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Clean air for me due to its convenience, on board tools and all, I have 11 cats so vacuuming every thing is an hourly thing also we have a fair amount of hardflooring in our house.
It's a split call here . . .
Despite their revolving brushes, clean-air vacs usually have to be over-powered (10 amps, 12 amps) because their air paths can get pretty convoluted on the way from the floor to the bag chamber. A lot can get lost in the translation due to twists and turns and joins that may leak air or impede air movement. Nonetheless, they generally deliver way more power for above the floor work.
Direct-air machines can use lower current draw because they usually provide a short, sweet and near direct path from the floor to the fan. I thinks that's why even direct-air machines like Oreck can do surprisingly well for the small fans they use. The one setback for me is fear of unseen objects. I always do a cursory check for hard stuff on the floor before I start but I'm always on guard for the rattle or ping that comes when you ace the unseen coin or button.
Riccar/Simplicity's tandem air in theory sounds cool but test reports I read said above-the-floor suction is nothing remarkable. Repair persons -- not a lot -- mentioned there might be a problem with blow-back in the bag area.
Despite their revolving brushes, clean-air vacs usually have to be over-powered (10 amps, 12 amps) because their air paths can get pretty convoluted on the way from the floor to the bag chamber. A lot can get lost in the translation due to twists and turns and joins that may leak air or impede air movement. Nonetheless, they generally deliver way more power for above the floor work.
Direct-air machines can use lower current draw because they usually provide a short, sweet and near direct path from the floor to the fan. I thinks that's why even direct-air machines like Oreck can do surprisingly well for the small fans they use. The one setback for me is fear of unseen objects. I always do a cursory check for hard stuff on the floor before I start but I'm always on guard for the rattle or ping that comes when you ace the unseen coin or button.
Riccar/Simplicity's tandem air in theory sounds cool but test reports I read said above-the-floor suction is nothing remarkable. Repair persons -- not a lot -- mentioned there might be a problem with blow-back in the bag area.
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