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I like the orange best, but would love the European poppy one. And, I prefer the latter handle, than the first ones.
What's your favorite Hoover Constellation color?
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I think the two-tone blue 82 was the best color combo. Then the infamous Garland green 8?7?, and finally my next personal favorite is the mustard yellow 86. Probably because it reminds me of saturn. 
Hard to
pick just one......
pick just one......
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<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: x-large; color: #00ced1;">Turquoise!!</span>
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<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">However, my favorite STYLE of Constellation is the model (I don't know the model) that's tipped downward on its axis about 20-25 degrees. </span><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;"> I don't have one, but sure would like to since it looks so cool</span><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">, truly like it's about to zoom off into outer space!</span>
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Hard to pick just one......
Tell me about it!
Tell me about it!
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But...
If I had to... I think the model 85 wins. I love the whimsical-ness of it. It's the only model that had a nameplate like this, and the pink/white color combination it just so pleasing to the eye. Don't forget about that pink rug-tool, too.
If I had to... I think the model 85 wins. I love the whimsical-ness of it. It's the only model that had a nameplate like this, and the pink/white color combination it just so pleasing to the eye. Don't forget about that pink rug-tool, too.
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Kind of fuzzy, but you get the idea..
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It also has one of the most fabulous ads of all time... one of my favorites... too bad it's not in color.
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I have to agree
Fred, the 85 definitely has to win on the grounds of whimsy! Do I see TWO of the new steel models on the shelf? One just wasn't enough?
Fred, the 85 definitely has to win on the grounds of whimsy! Do I see TWO of the new steel models on the shelf? One just wasn't enough?
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Do I see TWO of the new steel models on the shelf? One just
You'll just have to come and investigate that one for yourself...!
You'll just have to come and investigate that one for yourself...!
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Submitted for your approval;
The very pretty Canadian kin to the North Canton Model 434 is this striking combination of Pearl White sphere Model 438 with Canton Red handle, bumper and base - manufactured in the Hamilton plant from October 23 1963 to October 21 1964.
The earlier USA 434 was painted & trimmed differently as seen in Fred's extreme left example - produced from August 9 1961 to October 20 1961.
Is it possible this is the only Constellation model to feature colour-coordinated handle bumper and base? I can't recall ever seeing a Connie with anything other than a white handle...
Dave
The very pretty Canadian kin to the North Canton Model 434 is this striking combination of Pearl White sphere Model 438 with Canton Red handle, bumper and base - manufactured in the Hamilton plant from October 23 1963 to October 21 1964.
The earlier USA 434 was painted & trimmed differently as seen in Fred's extreme left example - produced from August 9 1961 to October 20 1961.
Is it possible this is the only Constellation model to feature colour-coordinated handle bumper and base? I can't recall ever seeing a Connie with anything other than a white handle...
Dave
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You'll just have to come investigate.....
Yes I will, before the curiosity turns fatal!
Yes I will, before the curiosity turns fatal!
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It looked pretty sad when I found it in Petrolia buried in mud and grass in the rain outside along with the Eureka. This was my first meeting with PeteK in October 2007 and I think he was surprised that I just had to rescue all of these. LOL
But it cleaned up really well with no scratches or dents. This is the trip where I also went koo-koo over the Monitor cylinder.
Whatever Fred's tale about the two SS Connies is I understand completely. When these New Connies went on online sale as Hoover was shutting down I ordered two myself at $100 each and had them shipped to Syracuse where I picked them up. Kept one for myself and the other Pete has. I also snapped up the Pearl White model for $20 at a Bibles For Missions store. Except for the terrible vacuum-contracting hose these are an excellent re-iteration of the hallowed Constellation - a fine last gasp effort from North Canton.
Dave
But it cleaned up really well with no scratches or dents. This is the trip where I also went koo-koo over the Monitor cylinder.
Whatever Fred's tale about the two SS Connies is I understand completely. When these New Connies went on online sale as Hoover was shutting down I ordered two myself at $100 each and had them shipped to Syracuse where I picked them up. Kept one for myself and the other Pete has. I also snapped up the Pearl White model for $20 at a Bibles For Missions store. Except for the terrible vacuum-contracting hose these are an excellent re-iteration of the hallowed Constellation - a fine last gasp effort from North Canton.
Dave
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Yes I will, before the curiosity turns fatal!
Ok, ok, ok... Neil... you twisted my arm hard enough...
Please see the thread, linked below:
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?12280_3
Ok, ok, ok... Neil... you twisted my arm hard enough...
Please see the thread, linked below:
http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?12280_3
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Fab color...
the orange and brown.And the turquoise
the orange and brown.And the turquoise
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The 822/822A, and the 862, would probably be my favourites!
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822A with tools...
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HEY!
What is the all one tone pink model one??????
A local vacuum store has one in incredible shape with original pink hose, and tools, and original paper bags.
I am trying to save my money for it. He wants a pretty penny for it. But I fell in love with it!!
What is the all one tone pink model one??????
A local vacuum store has one in incredible shape with original pink hose, and tools, and original paper bags.
I am trying to save my money for it. He wants a pretty penny for it. But I fell in love with it!!
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Brandon, that's the model 88. The color is called "Fawn" I believe. When I got mine, the upper half was completely spray painted grey. I spent an evening with a bottle of "Goof-Off" removing it. You can barely tell it was ever painted. Mother was not too happy about the fumes from the "Goof-Off" that wafted up two stories and kept her from sleeping. My bad. LoL.
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Fred, how many different versions were there of the 85? I have one, but it's trimmed out differently.
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Thanks Fred!
Did the 88 have the doughnut base though? Because the vacuum at the store has the disk base that you could tilt the machine off via a hinge.
It looks pretty close to the one you have, except it was all rose pink.
A picture would be uber fantastic if someone has one. Dont know when I can get back downtown to check the machine out again.
Next time in town I will have to show it to yall!
Did the 88 have the doughnut base though? Because the vacuum at the store has the disk base that you could tilt the machine off via a hinge.
It looks pretty close to the one you have, except it was all rose pink.
A picture would be uber fantastic if someone has one. Dont know when I can get back downtown to check the machine out again.
Next time in town I will have to show it to yall!
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Actually now that I think of it. Maybe I was thinking the doughnut was really the tool rack....
hmm.
I STILL WANT IT! lol. I really want it for the cool floor tool with wheels. And pink is my favorite color ever.
hmm.
I STILL WANT IT! lol. I really want it for the cool floor tool with wheels. And pink is my favorite color ever.
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Rick, there's only one version of the 85 but that's not to say that many Constellations haven't been 'modified' by well-meaning DIY-ers and Service Depots salvaging parts and transferring them to other machines. Within Series ranges bottom shells from one model can be intermixed with differently coloured tops to create colour combos the factory never produced.
Then you have the official variations put out by the Hoover Canada concern in Burlington (later Hamilton) Ontario and the Perrivale UK/European versions.
With that all said my Survey info on Constellations goes like this:
The Constellation was built from November 17 1954 to Jan 30 1975. The same basic Henry Dreyfus spherical machines were produced to the end with only colour changes and tweaking of the original design.
There are TWO Series if you will...the First with hose at top center, Second with hose entering near the top and sub-series Two which has the same hose coupler but the cleaner body tilted in relation to the base ring. (Three Series if we include the mid-2000 Maytag/Hoover Opalescent White or Stainless Steel Satellite Constellations...)
Series One:
The hose is attached to a heavy steel arm that swivels 360 degrees around its top center mounting.
The debut model is the two-tone blue Model 82 with dusty blue rubber bumper ring, Ultraflex hose & cord, which does not float. A 4-caster dolly was available for easy trolleying from room to room.
Within months, if not weeks, floating Models 84 in two-tone Mulberry and the 85 in White over Heather Rose, both with matching coloured rubber bumper rings but off-white ultraflex hoses, were introduced. These fulfilled the Market Strategy of Bottom, Middle and Top of the Line versions.
The base donuts are the same shape with the floaters having a hole in the bottom corresponding with the vacuum's exhaust port. All three bases are hinged on one side to swing away allowing the hose 'pipe' to connect for blowing.
Under the lid, the bag collar support is a one piece curved steel stamping and the slub-felt motor filter disc is held in place with a steel 'hat' band joined with a short spring.
Minor differences between the three other than colour is the trim ring applied around the hose inlet and the Bug badging on the side.
The debut 82 has a very decorative wide aluminum ring festooned with shooting stars and Hoover Constellation script with a single round bug badge on the side.
The mid-line 84 has a thin chrome ring set into the hose inlet and again a single bug badge on the side but Constellation script in red silkscreened just below it.
The top-of-the-line 85 goes a decorative & utility step further with a plain wider aluminum scuff ring 'donut' around the hosepipe inlet and the bug is incorporated in a trim piece that runs down the side to the bumper trim, as shown on Fred's 85.
It adds some wire frame tool posts attached to the base ring and little ear tabs above the bumper for cord winding.
All three versions were in production from 1954 to 1957.
Series Two:
The fixed non-swiveling Ultraflex hose coupler moves to a side location and a new handle setup design incorporates a rear tailfin for winding the cord around. The floater base is now a flared trumpet-shaped ring that is permanently riveted in place. You simply tilt the entire vacuum over sideways to connect the hose to the exhaust port. The hose now stores very neatly nested inside the flare. At some point on some models wire tool support posts rise from the base above the hose winding area for on-board tool storage & trundling.
The bag support becomes a shaped wire frame with a steel fitting welded on that accepts the bag collar. The filter clamp becomes a steel wire coil that is a bit trickier to put on. These changes continue to the end of the run.
The second series began in 1958 with the gold coloured Model 86 (which later in its run became Porcelain Blue), followed by successive coloured models, thus:
Model 87 - 1959 - Garland Green with electric hose On/Off feature (discussed here many times - do an archives search for this singular model) Matches the Model 66 Convertible.
Model 88 - 1960 - 'Pank' officially known as Fawn - matches the Model 67 Convertible.
Model 434 - 1961 - Canton Red and Pearl White - matches Model 574 promo Convertible.
Model 444 - Bittersweet orange - matches Model 34 Convertible Special.
Model 454 - Nassau Blue - matches Model 36 Convertible Special.
Model 843 - Autumn Gold & Seal Griege - This is the tilted model - matches Model 1060 Convertible.
after 1971 base colour changes to Medium Taupe.
Model 858 - Pumpkin & Seal Griege - matches Model 1120 DAM.
after 1971 base colour is Medium Taupe and in 1974 top colour is Poppy Red.
The last two models, 843 & 858 were both in production until January 30 1975 when the Constellation was discontinued in North Canton. At the beginning of the 1970s the Constellation was promoted as an entry level Economy cleaner which sold around the $30 price point.Keep in mind that Hoover also badged the machines for JC Penney (Pencrest) and other stores so there are many variations out there.
The Canadian Hoover factory put out variations in colour combos not available in the USA. Here in Canada around 1974 for instance, at Consumers Distributing Outlets a stripped down Connie Model 888 could be had for $54.97.
Other exclusively Canadian Models:
Model 821 - clone of blue Model 82 swiveltop.
Model 841E - clone of Mulberry Model 84 swiveltop.
I don't think we had a Heather Rose 85 variant. (?)
Model 862 - white top. side hose over orchid mauve (Mulberry-ish) bumper, bottom and base ring.
Model 866 - all over Fawn Pink w white trims.
Model 867A - 1964 - White dome over pale Pea (not Garland) Green handle, bumper trim, base and lower dome. (I guess that answers my Canadian-only other colour coordinated handle/bumper trims question)
Model 869 - Robin's Egg Blue all over w white trims.
Model 438 - Pearl White w Canton Red handle, bumper and base ring.
Model 451 - all over Mustard Yellow w white trims.
Model 888 - 1971/73 - all Sky Blue w white trims, later 1974/75 all Bilious Lime Green...er...Apple Green w white trims.
Then, around 2006 came the 'Series Three' Maytag Satellite in Stainless Steel which was brought over to North America via China as the Hoover Constellation S3345 in SS & Black trims & clear hose or painted shimmering Opalescent White with Gray trims & a shorter gray hose. Around 2007/08 these were both sold in Canada at Home Hardware stores and others for a short time until late 2008 when Internet Mail Order Closeout became the only way to get one. The price gradually plummeted from a high of $299 to $149, to $99 on the Hoover Website when I ordered mine. On a road trip in 2009 as Hoover Outlets were closing I saw some in stores marked down to US$75.
Any corrections or confirmations gratefully received, please.
Whew! That's a wrist-wracking heap 'o Sunday mornin' typing!
Dave.
No Constellation Survey is complete without the Patent Drawing:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=YG...=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false
Then you have the official variations put out by the Hoover Canada concern in Burlington (later Hamilton) Ontario and the Perrivale UK/European versions.
With that all said my Survey info on Constellations goes like this:
The Constellation was built from November 17 1954 to Jan 30 1975. The same basic Henry Dreyfus spherical machines were produced to the end with only colour changes and tweaking of the original design.
There are TWO Series if you will...the First with hose at top center, Second with hose entering near the top and sub-series Two which has the same hose coupler but the cleaner body tilted in relation to the base ring. (Three Series if we include the mid-2000 Maytag/Hoover Opalescent White or Stainless Steel Satellite Constellations...)
Series One:
The hose is attached to a heavy steel arm that swivels 360 degrees around its top center mounting.
The debut model is the two-tone blue Model 82 with dusty blue rubber bumper ring, Ultraflex hose & cord, which does not float. A 4-caster dolly was available for easy trolleying from room to room.
Within months, if not weeks, floating Models 84 in two-tone Mulberry and the 85 in White over Heather Rose, both with matching coloured rubber bumper rings but off-white ultraflex hoses, were introduced. These fulfilled the Market Strategy of Bottom, Middle and Top of the Line versions.
The base donuts are the same shape with the floaters having a hole in the bottom corresponding with the vacuum's exhaust port. All three bases are hinged on one side to swing away allowing the hose 'pipe' to connect for blowing.
Under the lid, the bag collar support is a one piece curved steel stamping and the slub-felt motor filter disc is held in place with a steel 'hat' band joined with a short spring.
Minor differences between the three other than colour is the trim ring applied around the hose inlet and the Bug badging on the side.
The debut 82 has a very decorative wide aluminum ring festooned with shooting stars and Hoover Constellation script with a single round bug badge on the side.
The mid-line 84 has a thin chrome ring set into the hose inlet and again a single bug badge on the side but Constellation script in red silkscreened just below it.
The top-of-the-line 85 goes a decorative & utility step further with a plain wider aluminum scuff ring 'donut' around the hosepipe inlet and the bug is incorporated in a trim piece that runs down the side to the bumper trim, as shown on Fred's 85.
It adds some wire frame tool posts attached to the base ring and little ear tabs above the bumper for cord winding.
All three versions were in production from 1954 to 1957.
Series Two:
The fixed non-swiveling Ultraflex hose coupler moves to a side location and a new handle setup design incorporates a rear tailfin for winding the cord around. The floater base is now a flared trumpet-shaped ring that is permanently riveted in place. You simply tilt the entire vacuum over sideways to connect the hose to the exhaust port. The hose now stores very neatly nested inside the flare. At some point on some models wire tool support posts rise from the base above the hose winding area for on-board tool storage & trundling.
The bag support becomes a shaped wire frame with a steel fitting welded on that accepts the bag collar. The filter clamp becomes a steel wire coil that is a bit trickier to put on. These changes continue to the end of the run.
The second series began in 1958 with the gold coloured Model 86 (which later in its run became Porcelain Blue), followed by successive coloured models, thus:
Model 87 - 1959 - Garland Green with electric hose On/Off feature (discussed here many times - do an archives search for this singular model) Matches the Model 66 Convertible.
Model 88 - 1960 - 'Pank' officially known as Fawn - matches the Model 67 Convertible.
Model 434 - 1961 - Canton Red and Pearl White - matches Model 574 promo Convertible.
Model 444 - Bittersweet orange - matches Model 34 Convertible Special.
Model 454 - Nassau Blue - matches Model 36 Convertible Special.
Model 843 - Autumn Gold & Seal Griege - This is the tilted model - matches Model 1060 Convertible.
after 1971 base colour changes to Medium Taupe.
Model 858 - Pumpkin & Seal Griege - matches Model 1120 DAM.
after 1971 base colour is Medium Taupe and in 1974 top colour is Poppy Red.
The last two models, 843 & 858 were both in production until January 30 1975 when the Constellation was discontinued in North Canton. At the beginning of the 1970s the Constellation was promoted as an entry level Economy cleaner which sold around the $30 price point.Keep in mind that Hoover also badged the machines for JC Penney (Pencrest) and other stores so there are many variations out there.
The Canadian Hoover factory put out variations in colour combos not available in the USA. Here in Canada around 1974 for instance, at Consumers Distributing Outlets a stripped down Connie Model 888 could be had for $54.97.
Other exclusively Canadian Models:
Model 821 - clone of blue Model 82 swiveltop.
Model 841E - clone of Mulberry Model 84 swiveltop.
I don't think we had a Heather Rose 85 variant. (?)
Model 862 - white top. side hose over orchid mauve (Mulberry-ish) bumper, bottom and base ring.
Model 866 - all over Fawn Pink w white trims.
Model 867A - 1964 - White dome over pale Pea (not Garland) Green handle, bumper trim, base and lower dome. (I guess that answers my Canadian-only other colour coordinated handle/bumper trims question)
Model 869 - Robin's Egg Blue all over w white trims.
Model 438 - Pearl White w Canton Red handle, bumper and base ring.
Model 451 - all over Mustard Yellow w white trims.
Model 888 - 1971/73 - all Sky Blue w white trims, later 1974/75 all Bilious Lime Green...er...Apple Green w white trims.
Then, around 2006 came the 'Series Three' Maytag Satellite in Stainless Steel which was brought over to North America via China as the Hoover Constellation S3345 in SS & Black trims & clear hose or painted shimmering Opalescent White with Gray trims & a shorter gray hose. Around 2007/08 these were both sold in Canada at Home Hardware stores and others for a short time until late 2008 when Internet Mail Order Closeout became the only way to get one. The price gradually plummeted from a high of $299 to $149, to $99 on the Hoover Website when I ordered mine. On a road trip in 2009 as Hoover Outlets were closing I saw some in stores marked down to US$75.
Any corrections or confirmations gratefully received, please.
Whew! That's a wrist-wracking heap 'o Sunday mornin' typing!
Dave.
No Constellation Survey is complete without the Patent Drawing:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=YG...=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false
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my favourite without a doubt is the grey and white model and I love the senior and junior that go with it. I also like the jade/aqua coloured connie, I am proud to say that I own one considering they are reasonably rare. Mine is in a horrible state at the moment as a few years back I tried to respray it. Luckily I have a friend who will strip the paint off it and re-do it for me ... or so he says he will lol
my favourite without a doubt is the grey and white model and I love the senior and junior that go with it. I also like the jade/aqua coloured connie, I am proud to say that I own one considering they are reasonably rare. Mine is in a horrible state at the moment as a few years back I tried to respray it. Luckily I have a friend who will strip the paint off it and re-do it for me ... or so he says he will lol
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<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">I wonder why they only "tilted" one model. Did they try it out and then find out it flopped? Too bad, because I think it looks really cool that way.</span>
Dave!!!!!
Absolutely wonderful job on tht history!. In a word, "SUPER"
Absolutely wonderful job on tht history!. In a word, "SUPER"
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