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I can rebuild my Kirby vacuums very well. I will not spend $1200 on an avalir that my sentria I replaced the nozzle. If I changed handle bag and trim it's an avalir or avalir 2. I have the carpet shampooer and the multi surface cleaner for an avalir.
I only buy Kirby parts and fans, carbon brushes, bulbs, rollers, belts I have enough to fix it if anything happens.
I'm getting at there demo team is almost non existent since avalir came out.
We have covid-19 and if it was non existent then it could be done away with.
If Kirby isn't making money there will be changes. I don't mean bag changes I mean new design new material and maybe more than one vacuum. Berkshire did it to Sears and you can bet on your life they will do it to Kirby. If Kirby still doesn't turn a profit they would go to tti or Hoover or history books.
I'm strongly suggesting there will be monumental changes. Kirby could make upright and move to Central vacuums too.
With everything happening it may be what we want and they keep American vacuum cleaner company open. If it is in financial woes things will change.
I base my information on Berkshire Hathaway. I had business classes and Warren buffet president of berkshire Hathaway is good. I have a majority of my stocks in his investments or businesses and they fare well.
Mr buffet is a good person. He drives I believe a 1979 vehicle. He lives in the same house for a long time. Idk he's complete opposite of trump and he's the best businessman the United States has ever seen but Bezsos I have not studied but he may be better.
Les
 
Even if kirby's went mainstream retail and could be found at every walmart, target, home depot, etc.
How do you think it would look to the average consumer?

And how do you think the consumer is going to compare these?

And what about the prices?

And not just Kirby. Lets' also throw rainbow, Filter-queen, Aerus machines up there on that shelf as well.

I mean, seriously.
 
Exactly

No one is going to walk into Wal-Mart or Target and buy a $2000 vacuum when they could buy the $40 plastivac.

Personally, I think Kirby should sell the machine online for a fixed price and then tell people to see a demonstration at a dealer in order to get the machine for a reduced price.

For example, if Kirby charges $3000.00 as a fixed price, I could walk into a vac shop and pay $2500.00 and get the demonstration at the same time.
 
Does Anyone

have any FACTS to suggest that Kirby is not doing well? Actual sales or revenue numbers beyond mere speculation? I haven't seen anything, anywhere, to indicate Kirby's in trouble.

As for Scott Fetzer, keep in mind (as no doubt, Buffett does) it is far more than just Kirby. Berkshire Hathaway is not going to dump a well-performing subsidiary even if a single product -- Kirby -- isn't doing well.

https://scottfetzer.com/brand-portfolio/
 
If a restaurant sees an item on the menu is selling poorly then they will remove that item. Of course they wouldn't shut down the whole restaurant. Just like Berkshire Hathaway would eliminate the Kirby product from Scott and Fetzer if it's underperforming.
 
All Kirby did with the Avalir II, that is noticable would be the blue emblem on the outer bag and the


blue tech drive pedal.......anyone that had an Avalir could change both.......and make an Avalir II........


 


 


 


Bud Mattingly


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I don't know how desperately one needs the sales figures but, I mean it's just a guess from me, one could peruse the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Reports and SEC 10-K statements and possibly break down the sales figures for the S&F division. Apparently that division also makes cutlery so they may not break out for vacuums, but that's just all I've got.

https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/reports.html
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Relevance

I'm implying a scenario. It's not speculation that covid 19 is going to put a hurt on everything. Cars are down 10% In value from last year. Cars have alot bigger market than z vacuum.
Buffetts partner said this is the worst tradgedy in his life in financial terms.
You can pretend there is no validity to my claims but half of the companies in American are closing. This is and could rival the depression. It could surpass it.
I didn't pull up info former poster did it for me. When the report was released there breaking even. If you think after covid-19 there going to break even or make big profits not happening. There going to lose money or really lose money. Wear those Rose colored glasses all you want. We will see how Kirby does in the red.
You think they can get back to breaking even fast please explain to me or show me some facts. If you answer this I'll do research and show you that there's alot of truth to my ramblings.
Les
 
You can order Filter Queen vacuum systems from HealthMor directly-online for $3400.The Defender air Purifier can be ordered the same way for $799.Other vacuum websites-Vortech Force,Miracle Mate still show them being sold thru a DTD demo.Figure the online sales may be the future for highend DTD brands.I will keep checking since the Covid thing hit pretty fast.The vacuum companies have to clash their heads together to see what to do.Feel the 3400 buck price for the Filter Queen vacuum is too much.At least with the DTD guy you could wrangle and Wheel-Deal with him.Online is take it or leave it.
 
From the news I have read on the internet-call dealers are having a tough time.New cars are not considered essential.The Toyota dealer near me is now offering to sell a car via home delivery and sales.The place itself is closed until this mess is over.After all GM cars were sold DTD in the real old days!One of my other friends who works at a Toyota dealer in Durham is closed.He is stuck at home until it opens again.He is able to collect retirement pay.
 
$3400 for a filter queen? !   Hey, if they can finagle people to spend that, all the more power to them. 


 


One can easily buy a decent FQ or a Kirby on ebay without having to go over $200.  I've seen them on Craigs for less than $100 WORKING.


Since they haven't changed them much, you'd be getting the same machine they sell new.  

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I bought my current car from Carvana a couple of years ago.  Everything was on line or over the phone.  So quick.  And they delivered to me.  Even though it had 40K miles on it, it was like new.


 


Went to a Honda dealership in January to look at the Fit, which hasn't changed in ten years.  Now, I have a good memory of Honda but, they haven't innovated.  Anyway, the dealership was awful, they had loud music blasting. uggg.  Towering three story sales floor.  I couldn't hear anything.  It was just awful.  I left in a hurry and felt the need for a shower afterwards.  Never again.


 


I'm happy I won't ever be buying a new fossil fueled vehicle again.  Now it's just a matter of time until I get an EV, hopefully a Tesla.  Of course they've been open this entire time, selling cars on line and doing no contact deliveries so people feel safe.
 
Dang

I have a 2004 Corolla ce basic edition
I have a RAV4 2010 v6 borla exhaust and you can't get cold air intake on this model. It goes 0-60 in 6.1 seconds. I pulled up next to a Honda Accord with a fart can muffler single muffler. It had a dual exhaust tip. The muffler reduces horsepower. He wanted to raise. We get next to him we both punch it at 35 mph 3 car lengths and I hear his blow off valve. This means he has a cold air inducted turbo. If he spent the same money on a m
Borla muffler it would add airflow increasing horsepower. Instead 3-4k in performance parts and a muffler that decreases it. I blew his doors off it was funny.
I had to tell the story to make myself feel better about not getting a car delivered. I will compliment you on Toyota.
The cars this year are down 10%. If it was 20k it's 18k. I just wonder if dealers are adjusting the prices accordingly.
Les
 
Toyota's are some of the best cars.  If you take care of the Corolla it will last forever.


 


I had a 2002 Rav4 but it wasn't turbo charged or anthing.  NEVER want turbos or any of that hyper stuff that puts extra strain on the motor.  That's what will kill it.


 


The auto industry has been suffering for a couple of years now.  This virus stuff is only adding fuel to the fire.  I'm still not buying anything.  
 
Neither

Am I. I have a few bills too pay. I had a 99 v6 Camry with a sunroof.
I did race at stoplights and freeway a few times. I kept up with a BMW Z3 going 125-130 mph. My brother beat a WRX when they were fi4st big. I raced one and we both got tickets. It was $350 ticket not cheap. He asked why I didn't slow down. I told him I already was getting a ticket for speeding I didn't see the point he wasn't going to give me a warning for slowing down.
I really don't like cops. Im no longer the fastest speeder. If I had $500

Car market is going to feel the hurt. I'd love a new Toyota 86. I'd take any new Toyota.
If you have cash every large market is going to crash. You will get houses, cars and other goods cheap.
I remember 2002 and 2009. If they project this to be worse. If I had 500k loan I'd buy houses rent them out 15-20 year loan. The rent would pay for mortgage payment. In about 5 years rent would increase and house value would be up alot. The 15 years there all paid off worth double up to quadruple the value. You have to buy in the good locations. The rent market has been steady at 97-99 percent. If you lose your house you have to live somewhere.
Idk info I learned from a few friends who have done it.
Les
 
RAV4 fast LOL

I love when people decide what adds horsepower and what doesn’t. I don’t believe “exhausts” and “intakes”really do as much as you believe... If the engine is designed properly, it shouldn’t need that much to perform. Now if you’re talking about actual modifications (IE timing) that’s a completely different topic. You can’t walk into auto zone and tell them you want to buy a “tune” LMAOO

Also, Honda accords aren’t really all that fast to begin with.. and to be honest straight line racing isn’t all that appealing. I drive a 2018 Murano platinum and a 2017 Maxima SL (the daiily babies) The maxima by all means is mostly designed for transportation and comfort, with that being said it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. It also has a top speed of 140mph, and could out corner the comparable sedan (Toyota Avalon, Honda Accord) and beat it in a straight line. In the defense of the competition.. the maxima is technically a sports sedan but, That’s with stock exhaust and stock everything. Hell, the murano has a 0-60 of 7.0 and a top speed of 130 (which isn’t all that fast) and can take corners as cleanly as a GLA.

Pulling up on the highway is for boys, keeping up in the twisties is for men ;-)
 

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