sensotronic
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When I want to give my stairs a deep clean, I attach the Sebo power head on my D4 directly to the handle. I also have the mini turbo brush and have had no problems with it, though it does increase the noise level.
What should I buy?
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sebo_fan
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Good point, Senso. Sadly I find the PN attached to the handle far too heavy to put up with, particularly when cleaning each step. The air driven mini brush is also great for use in the car (if you have one) and on other soft furnishings provided they are tassle or frill free for obvious reasons.
kirbysthebest
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The rule for the best vacuum is:
If you like it, and use it, and it meets your needs. It's the best one for you. <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Congratulations on your new purchase, I am sure it will serve you for many years. </span>
If you like it, and use it, and it meets your needs. It's the best one for you. <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Congratulations on your new purchase, I am sure it will serve you for many years. </span>
dysonman1
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The Riccar Prima hose is 8 feet long. When it was being designed, I was asked by the engineers for the proper length of a hose. The Air-Way hose has always been the perfect length. Since we cherry picked history, we used the 8 feet length of the Air-Way hose, along with the Electrolux model 1205 cord winder design.
The photo (from left to right) shows the Aerus Electrolux Legacy Hose, the Riccar Prima hose, the Air-Way Sanitizor 88 Mark II hose, and the Kirby Legend II hose. You'll note that the Prima and Air-Way hoses are in fact the same length. Wouldn't it be nice if ANY other manufacturer of vacuums could actually cherry pick the entire history of vacuum cleaners?
The photo (from left to right) shows the Aerus Electrolux Legacy Hose, the Riccar Prima hose, the Air-Way Sanitizor 88 Mark II hose, and the Kirby Legend II hose. You'll note that the Prima and Air-Way hoses are in fact the same length. Wouldn't it be nice if ANY other manufacturer of vacuums could actually cherry pick the entire history of vacuum cleaners?
sebo_fan
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Cherry picking is indeed good if you have that facility.
When it comes to hose length, brands should also be stating how long the hose is WITHOUT the handle being attached.
Recently I bought a SEBO K1 replacement hose since I managed to find a lone body & motor only on an auction site without any tools etc. So when it came to purchasing the hose I had a few points left over on Amazon UK. What I thought I was buying, was as described - the 2.1 metre hose that SEBO install with a few of their K1 cylinder vacs, and not the base level 1.8 metre hose.
What came in the post was the correct pack with the correct label = however the hose inside is a 1.8 metre hose, measured from the machine cuff before the handle. Whilst Amazon have kindly offered a refund, I don't mind the 1.8 metre hose, but it goes to show that when measuring the length of the hose, it does not include the handle. Such is the case that Miele and SEBO both sell replacement hoses without the handles as well as hoses with handles.
When it comes to hose length, brands should also be stating how long the hose is WITHOUT the handle being attached.
Recently I bought a SEBO K1 replacement hose since I managed to find a lone body & motor only on an auction site without any tools etc. So when it came to purchasing the hose I had a few points left over on Amazon UK. What I thought I was buying, was as described - the 2.1 metre hose that SEBO install with a few of their K1 cylinder vacs, and not the base level 1.8 metre hose.
What came in the post was the correct pack with the correct label = however the hose inside is a 1.8 metre hose, measured from the machine cuff before the handle. Whilst Amazon have kindly offered a refund, I don't mind the 1.8 metre hose, but it goes to show that when measuring the length of the hose, it does not include the handle. Such is the case that Miele and SEBO both sell replacement hoses without the handles as well as hoses with handles.
madaboutsebo
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Congratulations Danswifey on the purchase of your new SEBO D4, glad to see your already enjoying it. I hope it brings you server so years of reliable service which I'm sure it will.
I have a SEBO Felix which I've had for nearly 8 years with trouble free usage. Not used so much in its first 3 years but had some usage since. I love it one of the best vacuum cleaners I've owned (along with my recent purchased of a Vorwerk!), in fact it's SEBO that got me back into bag vacuum cleaners and opened my eyes.
I'm not a big fan of canisters/cylinder vacuums but I do love the SEBO ones especially the premium models that come with the electric power head same as what is on my Felix.
Well enjoy your D4.
I have a SEBO Felix which I've had for nearly 8 years with trouble free usage. Not used so much in its first 3 years but had some usage since. I love it one of the best vacuum cleaners I've owned (along with my recent purchased of a Vorwerk!), in fact it's SEBO that got me back into bag vacuum cleaners and opened my eyes.
I'm not a big fan of canisters/cylinder vacuums but I do love the SEBO ones especially the premium models that come with the electric power head same as what is on my Felix.
Well enjoy your D4.
eurekaprince
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Just a comment about the comparative convenience of adjusting the power levels on the suction only versions of the Miele C3 (S8) and the Sebo D4 (the D1). Since the hoses are non-electric on these, you must adjust the power on the main canister unit. With the Miele, you can do this easily without bending down by pressing the foot-operated + and - buttons.
kirbysthebest
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Though not a museum
The other vacuum manufacturers have all their competitors machines in their testing room to see what they are up against. I am sure that they steal. . . I mean "cherry pick" from those ideas too.
It happens in all industries. The car makers always get their competitors models to dissect and reverse engineer. They also have spys that try to cherry pick the ideas before they are premiered; this is why the proving grounds and R&D department is so secured.
The other vacuum manufacturers have all their competitors machines in their testing room to see what they are up against. I am sure that they steal. . . I mean "cherry pick" from those ideas too.
It happens in all industries. The car makers always get their competitors models to dissect and reverse engineer. They also have spys that try to cherry pick the ideas before they are premiered; this is why the proving grounds and R&D department is so secured.
sebo_fan
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And a comment coming back at you - EP - you still have to bend down to take out the tools. Or the plug for that matter as well as the cord rewind..
I had an S4 once with the remote control handle. I was lucky if I could get the remote infra red thing to swing in my favour for controllable suction power so that the corresponding panel on the Miele body would pick up the signal. Fair enough if you get any remote control handle with a Miele brand new, or even a few years old, but at times those infra red "invisible" handles are more for a nonsense than an actual convenience.
I rather like the remote control handle on my vintage Electrolux Excelio though it is a pity that it is powered by two AA batteries. It has a wireless type and infra red connection too. That's the same with Miele, though the battery is an LCD type.
There are no batteries on the SEBO handles.
I had an S4 once with the remote control handle. I was lucky if I could get the remote infra red thing to swing in my favour for controllable suction power so that the corresponding panel on the Miele body would pick up the signal. Fair enough if you get any remote control handle with a Miele brand new, or even a few years old, but at times those infra red "invisible" handles are more for a nonsense than an actual convenience.
I rather like the remote control handle on my vintage Electrolux Excelio though it is a pity that it is powered by two AA batteries. It has a wireless type and infra red connection too. That's the same with Miele, though the battery is an LCD type.
There are no batteries on the SEBO handles.
ralph123
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Danswifey said: "... I have a 15 year old riccar upright that was probably the top of the line when we got it and a supralite riccar which is four years old. I mainly was vacuuming with the newer one but didn't care for it because if I were to dust a room and then vacuum, I'd immediately find a fine layer of dust on the furniture. Plus it didn't have HEPA filtration. My riccars had belt issues often so that's one reason I wasn't as dedicated with staying with this brand...."
Just curious - what kinds of belt issues have you had with your Riccars? I have a fairly new Simplicity 7 Series.
Regarding the Riccar Supralite, you should be able to get the "HEPA" cloth bags for it. I recently ordered some for my Mom.
I hope the Sebo works well for you.
Just curious - what kinds of belt issues have you had with your Riccars? I have a fairly new Simplicity 7 Series.
Regarding the Riccar Supralite, you should be able to get the "HEPA" cloth bags for it. I recently ordered some for my Mom.
I hope the Sebo works well for you.
The length of the Royal metal canister hoses was right,too.The hose should be long enough for you to reach up your full height without having to lift and hold the canister-or having it stand upright-it should still lay flat on the floor on its wheels.My NSS canister hose is like 10Ft long.The NSS would be too large,heavy to hold while you reach up with the hose.
kirbylux77
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Danswifey, congratulations on your Sebo D4 purchase! I hope you enjoy it for many years. It wouldn't have been my personal choice....I personally would have gone for the Riccar Prima or Aerus Platinum. The Sebo is nice, but I find the lack of features it has on a canister in it's price range is unacceptable. For instance, the powerhead on/off switch should be on the Hose Handle, not on the powerhead. There should also be a headlight on the powerhead & a quick release pedal, not have to stoop down to release.
Regarding your two Riccar uprights....if I was you, I would take your cleaners in to have them serviced & get them performing optimally again. You have two very good vacuums, in my opinion, that should last you many more years & along with your Sebo make a good house-cleaning team. I tried a Simplicity Freedom back a couple of months ago, & was blown away by the power it has....amazing for a 8 lb upright! There is a cordless version of it to be released soon, & I am very tempted to buy it.
Best of luck with your Sebo....
Rob
Regarding your two Riccar uprights....if I was you, I would take your cleaners in to have them serviced & get them performing optimally again. You have two very good vacuums, in my opinion, that should last you many more years & along with your Sebo make a good house-cleaning team. I tried a Simplicity Freedom back a couple of months ago, & was blown away by the power it has....amazing for a 8 lb upright! There is a cordless version of it to be released soon, & I am very tempted to buy it.
Best of luck with your Sebo....
Rob
