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What is your favorite Rainbow copy?

Josh,
Just wanted to add that I do not seem to have smell or dust leaking from my Filter Queen either but I do not like having to empty the bin. My parents always used an Air-Way. The Air-Way along with the Rexair were the only vacuums that were recommended when I was small by allergy doctors. I will say MOST of the time I don't notice any smell from my Dysons,unless the bin was not emptied after every use and I hated to mess with the dry flying dust when I had to empty the bin.
 
rainbow

i have used a miele and put my nose to the exhaust no dusty smell . even a kenmore no oder . kirby yes and i don't see the big deal about storing the dust in the vacuum in the closet big woop. just saying . i have asked about rainbows from local vacuum stores . they don't like rainbow because how bad the are . i like rainbow but there not the best
 
Most vacuum shops are probably getting Rainbows that were disrespected

I would venture to say that most people who have Rainbows probably don't dump the water when they should, thus, most see dirty nasty messes inside them when it's time to open them up.............I could be totally wrong here.........BUT, I've used my Rainbow A LOT (especially the first two years)........If there was dried vacuum sludge inside my machine........certainly it would have some sort of smell...I mean, think about it............Wet vacuumed dirt that's dried on the inside.....?............Bottom line, if the water is changed every 20 min's or so....I don't think the inside of the Rainbow will be covered in crud.

That all being said.........It is a PAIN the the .......to use.....It comes in handy for certain things for me though.
 
While Rainbows...

Are not my favorite machine...the main problem with them is improper use, use enough water,clean the separator after each use..the newer ones you dont have to, empty them at least every 30 min,and most of all NEVER!!! vacuum ashes-soot-flour-cornstarch or anything greasy, and always set the machine off the pan after each use, most women are way too busy to do all this and that is the root of the problems,salesmen need to stress the proper care of the machine 10000 times more than they do!
 
What is your favorite Rainbow copy?

Hans,
You are right on it. I have been using my old Rainbow ONLY in the main part of the house for the last 6 months as a test. Yesterday I got my new Hoover Anniversay Upright out that uses a hepa bag. I also got my grandmother's Hoover Concept One out with a new Hoover bag. Today I noticed that the TV,end table and coffee table all had a nice fresh layer of dust on the top. When I use the Rainbow ONLY, there is just no dust on the table tops,blinds or tv. My Rainbow must be either removing more dust from the carpet or not exhausting as much as my other vacs. I have noticed that with my old Rainbow there is never any foul dusty smell and the room seems to smell fresh. The best part is not having to dust all the blinds on the windows!
Off the subject, but your chocolate cobbler was great and now it's gone!!!!We enjoyed every bite.
Rob
 
I still haven't heard anyone give me or William an explanation as far as the "wet dust can't fly" argument.........

Based on what I have read in the past........that if a Rainbow is filled with clean water and one starts vacuuming, all of the dirt doesn't make it into the water basin and skips right over it.

That's fine and all.........But if this is the case with vacuuming dirt, then my hepa filter would have to be filthy by now, as the air comes right out of the back of the machine.

I'm not talking about vacuuming ashes or flour or corn starch. I've read on forums where folks will say Rainbows don't filter well and that's why they added a hepa filter...........

If the Hepa filter (as some say) is doing all of the filtering and the water is doing absolutely nothing.....Would that leave the hepa filter covered in complete sludge?

To me, that has to be some sort of proof that the water is doing a freaking great job......A snow white hepa filter after a few years..........Am I wrong?
 
The Hepa Filter is

Washable and does not get muddy or wet . My new Rainbow e2Series 2 speed with the HEPA filter does a great job cleaning and filtering and I have owned it for two years and use it a few times a month and my filter is still snow white . As far as my favorite water vacuum "improvement" not copy to the Rainbow is the Pro Aqua which doesnt have a filter and just use`s a really good seperator that really forces all dust and dirt into the water .I like it better than my e2Series because I feel it is really well made and built in Germany as I am also a German Automobile owner/lover as well .
 
Rainbow SE PE

I will stick to my SE PE Rainbow. I truly believe that wet dust cannot fly. My SE PE is like william1248's. The exhaust port has never had any dirt in it. With that said I do not pick up non wettable items with my Rainbow and I do clean the separator after each use and rinse the water pan and dry it. Those steps don't take more than 5 minutes tops. Sometimes I have had people mention how fresh my house smells. Each time this has happened I had just used my Rainbow. I also sometimes use the genuine scents, just because I like them. I would like Rexair to make a better power nozzle. I have 2 the old style and the one that came with the SE PE. I also have an E Series, which is stored in my garage, I do not like it near as well as the SE PE. Too bulky and I think the water basin is harder to clean....Just my thoughts

Maybe an interesting thread would be how far the vacuum industry has come to eliminate dust blow back over the years. I had a top of the line Eureka back in the 70's. It was a 2 speed automatic, but when you first started it up even though it used the F & G bags, there would be dust escaping the dust bag. With that said, it was one of the best vacuums made during that time. Obviously hepa type and hepa bags, along with sealed systems have made all of our homes much cleaner and less dusty. I bet that if I were able to afford a Rainbow back then, their would have been a much less dusty home....


Bud
 
I called a few vacuum shops here in Lexington asking them if they knew of any PN that would fit the E 2 speed because I don't like the E series PN. They all said NO but what's even more strange is that they all told me that I would be crazy to get another PN because the Rainbow PN is so good. I even mentioned the Wessel Werk and one guy said those are so cheap......

I wasn't going to argue. They sounded kind of busy.

Anyway

Say your using the Rainbow PN and you go from Carpet to tile and there are some crumbs on the tile, you run the Rainbow PN over it and it doesn't really get all the crumbs or takes several passes to get them...........But the suction is GREAT on the Rainbow itself and the PN isn't clogged. So you get the Kenmore can and in the same scenario and the crumbs come right up easily and you can hear the strong suction from the PN when it's on a hard non-carpeted floor, yet you can't really hear that strong suction on the Rainbow PN on a hard floor. If I put the Rainbow hose down into the Kenmore PN and put it over the hard non-carpeted surface, you can hear the strong suction coming from under the PN.......

So I'm thinking.........If this has a somewhat hard time picking up the crumbs on a hard floor, how can it be deep cleaning. Something is funky with the design. I like the looks of the PN though and it sounds like it's really digging deep into the carpet when you're using it, but the suction is being choked somewhat by the design.
 
I bought a Rainbow!

I bought it for $150 from the original owner, a divorced woman who is downsizing to a small home. She said she used it only for a short time after buying it because she did not like carrying it up a down the stairs.
It had been treated OK, but I noticed dust in the exhaust hose connection and the spider had some buildup. I removed the separator and spider and cleaned them, polished the complete ensemble, and the result is a Rainbow that looks and sounds like new.
We have a large ranch style home, two kids and two cats. There is plenty dirt to be found. It took five basins of water to do the job of cleaning the whole house, but what a fantastic job it did. I believe a 4 quart basin would be better suited to our home. Does it affect airflow or suction adversely?
May the Rainbow gods forgive me for slandering their product in the past!

John

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Cool!!!!!! Looks great

Glad you changed the water. A lot of people don't. I think that's the secret to good filtration.

The Rainbow you bought doesn't have a hepa filter. I've wondered before if the E2's would work without their hepa filter in. The Rainbow manual warns not to operate it without the hepa....I wonder why, since the older Rainbows don't have one and obviously nothing is escaping the water onto the hepa on mine
 
Thanks Mark. The manual suggests changing the water every 30 minutes so that is what I did. It's somewhat inconvenient, but I wasn't put off by it.
Airflow is great - that really impresses me. It picked up anything on the floor, including pennies. The power nozzle seems good, but the belt is stretched and brush roll stalls. I'll buy a new one tomorrow and try it again.
I lived in Lexington on and off for 14 years. There are or used to be some good vac stores there. Southland Drive had an nice independent shop and the Kirby distributorhad been in the same location for 40 years. Hope they're still in business.
 
Hmm. I couldn't find anything in the e series manual that said anything about how often to change the water. Unless I looked over it. Strange because that's so important

Yes there are a few good vac shops, but I stay away from them because if I go in I will end up buying things I don't need.

Not sure about Kirby, but I know the Rainbow service center has been here since the mid 80's I think
 
I THOUGHT I read to change the water every 30 minutes in the manual but it's not in there today. Maybe I saw it online when researching the D4 SE. Maybe I am entering dementia. 20-30 minutes seems like a good time frame to shoot for.
I understand about walking in to vacuum stores and walking out with a vacuum that looks fantastic but not needed. Too much temptation for the weak willed!
 
What is your favorite Rainbow copy

John,
Looks like you got a good buy compared to what they bring on ebay. Your machines has a later power nozzle. I bought mine in 1992-3.
I have been ruined now. I had another machine out last week and now I really notice the dusty smell when I turned the bagless machine on and no matter how careful, when I empty the bin there is dust everywhere.
I have never owned or used the 4 quart basin. I empty mine out once every 30 minutes or once for each floor of the house.
If you use the Rainbow only for several months, you will see a difference in the dust level in the house. Good Luck!
 
iam just wondering how would that not wreck the vacuum when he put the whole vacuum into a container filled with liquid wouldnt it wreck the vacuum?????
 
I think the circuit board that drives the motor is in a sealed compartment.and the motor-like an induction motor the Rainbow E2 motors don't have brushes.Don't think the immersion would harm it.However for some really toxic,radioactive, or infectous wastes-often the WHOLE vacuum is discarded in a hazardous waste container.In the scene where the vacuum was dipped into the water or whatever-think it would have to be many hours before it could be used again.and the vacuums water bin would have to be discarded as above-along with the water.and still keep in mind some toxic compounds cannot be contained in water alone.You need the filters for that.the time I reapired a "Certified" HEPA vacuum cleaner-was a large unit--the contractor that owned it used it for asbestos and lead paint cleanups.One of the filters in it was a watertrap filter bin.The other filters were HEPA.And a large multilayer paper bag as the main filter-could hold several gallons of debris.when yopu took the bag from the units drum-you put the paper bag into a red plastic bag marked "toxic Waste"The filters and bag were replaced after each job when this vacuum was used -so it could maintain its Certified HEPA ranking.So for the client that the contractor worked for-he paid for the cost of the new filters for the vacuum.I repaired the motor assembly for it-had two 10A lamb vacuum motors in it-the unit plugged into a 20A 120V outlet.Had a NEMA 20A plug.and on that Rainbow toxic waste vacuum-depending on the waste-you may have to discard and replace the hose,too.
 

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