VL Needs to be Archived

[Deleted member 5000]

@unimatic1140

"Extremely unlikely since spammers look for common off the shelf forum software to hack"

When there's enough people you don't need special software to raid a forum.
I think your underestimating the internet.

 

[gregvacs28]

Robert's Livingroom

Thank-you to Robert.

I've been a member of Robert's groups on and off over the years since late 2002. Back then it was only AW.org and later he created Vacland.

It's Robert's playroom and we are lucky to be able to be here due to his creation.

I've seen people come in, spend some time, have fun, and move on.
Others stop in to ask a question or two, get their problems fixed and move on with their lives.
There is a small group of dedicated members who keep coming back.

I've had my suspicions about some of the members of both sites in the past from time to time.
So has the FBI at times apparently. lol. Ahh, the early days of trolls.
There does seem to be a subtext of 'hitler's youth' recently on vacland. lol
That's not something Robert had anything to do with and a good website is bound to have it's dramas and mini controversies at times. It's a compliment.

I've also seen long time members, people who were here from the beginning pass on. It happens. We do still have their entries to remind us of them.

Out of all the internet changes and hic-cups over the last two decades, I've never known either site to go down. I don't know how Robert does it. He's a miracle worker.

If Robert should want people's input on ideas to improve his site I have no doubt we'll see a post similar to "Looking for ideas to improve the site".

There have even been a few people over the years who were motivated to TRY and create knock-off appliance websites but none succeeded that I know of. It's a compliment again to Robert.

As for the design of either site, IMO it's well within keeping of the theme of the subject matter herein. It would be destressing to see some black screened, ugly, with gray "modern" stock photo blahhh when logging in.
Retrorenovation is another retro-themed site that has similar subject matter but without the chat feature. The decor of that site is also quite appropriate.

The only real change I wish Robert would consider is to lessen the work he has to do to manage the sites. That would be to merge the two sites. Maybe a crafty new name like retroappliance.org or something.


But here's a creepy, perhaps sad, perhaps conspiratorial, perhaps disturbing fact:
One day Robert could decide he's done and pull the plugs on both sites and all we've known would disappear in an intentional instant.

yikes! right?

We could go to log in one day and just get an error message with no further explanation.

It could happen. It's his baby.

There are lots of other defunct websites out there. I don't think that's Robert's plans though.


https://retrorenovation.com/2020/12/26/when-was-avocado-introduced-as-a-color-on-kitchen-appliances/

 

[gregvacs28]

I didn't know there were so many defunct websites.

Did you know that Google plus was a "social network" site? WAS.

IMO, Google and all it encompasses IS a social network without even trying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google+

 

[vacuumlad1650]

"Only 30-40 active" one thing you have to remember is there are plenty of members (myself included) who frequently check the forum but do not always post. I love my sweeper collection, and enjoy my time on here, but I work 70+ hours a week at times. Its much easier for me to check the forum on my break than it is to take photos and write out a post

 

[gregvacs28]

#18

"sell the information on a DVD set or something?"

DVD set? What is this 2006?

As long as we do the DVD, lets not forget VHS. We want to saturate the market but good. Maybe we should consider 16 milometer too?


I'm sure your intentions are good but Robert has probably already thought of these things.

"But my point still stands there are things that could happen out of your control. Like a car accident God forbid."

Then again, maybe not. And some day we'll try and log in and get an error message.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the...-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html

 

[marks_here]

"30 or 40 active"

I've tried chatting w/many people on here and only to have been made to feel like I don't belong on here. I would put more but who cares?!!

 

[gregvacs28]

What do you mean you feel you don't belong?

Aren't you a vacuum collector?
Is it the hitler-youth thing?
Is it a gay thing?
A hetero thing?

Vacland certainly doesn't have the same feel as AW.

It's practically dead here. Very little discussion about anything other than some types of vacuums, usually ones someone is trying to unload.

If one combined the Vintage and Contemporary vacuum groups and put it and the Junior group on AW it would probably be better for everyone, imo. The other categories are already covered over there.

 

[vacuumdevil]

Comments from a Jew.

@gregvacs28 Look man I don't know what you're obsession with "Hitler's youth" is but you've mentioned it twice in the same thread.

Users like you are the reason that vacuum land has been mostly abandoned.

I've seen your hostility around here and it's disgusting.

 

[electroluxxxx]

Alex...

Disgusting users like that are the reason for what happened in WWII.

 

[vacuumdevil]

@gregvacs28 P.S. here's a picture of my Jewish Grandpa with a metal he took from a dead Nazi midwife after he escaped the Battle of the bulge.

I hope that satisfies your obsession with the Nazi youth.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

shalom

@gregvacs28 Chill your Nazi tits

@electroluxxx @vacuumdevil

Can we get this thread back on topic?

To put it simply: Let's preserve Vacuumland for the future.

 

[gregvacs28]

Guys (and gals) I'm very anti-racism in any way. And I'm not afraid to admit to it
or expose those hiding in the shadows
or using forums such as these for illegal purposes.

Like many, I'm still disgusted and distraught with the activities of Jan 6th and all the freaks that were involved in that. To realize that those type people live among us in the U.S. is unsettling.

As a society we need to not turn a blind eye to behaviours that have allowed for such things as the murderous insurrection on Jan 6th and brought shame on our country.

I'm apparently not the only person who's seen certain activity on Vacland that is suspicious.

Trying to belittle me isn't going to work.


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As for the topic as presented above, Robert has already spoken.

You need to respect his forums. He runs this show and has done a very good job all this time.
He didn't ask for anyone's advice.

If you have a serious concern you need to contact him directly instead of trying to make the forums look bad.

 

[gregvacs28]

Compuvac

You're 16 if your profile is correct and you're worried about the way Robert runs his Website?

He's been successfully running his website for longer than you've even been alive.

Yeah, he knows some things.
And you won't be the first overly anxious 16 y.o. who's full of himself. lol.

But go on, educate us. Please tell us all about how things SHOULD be done.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

First of all no one is telling the webmaster how to run Vacuumland. Let's make that clear? And no one is trying to replace Vacuumland either.

The whole point of this thread was to SUGGEST to make a archive of the entire website. Again i don't mean archive as in if the servers fail. Archive as in something that can be downloaded and stored by anyone. And no i don't mean the entire website code either although it would be nice.

There is a lot of useful threads and information on Vacuumland. The webmaster said that he isn't going anywhere at the moment but it's best to be safe than sorry as you can never tell the future.

I can see that no one here really gets why making such an archive would be necessary so letting this thread die would be better for everyone's brain cells.

Also no one is worried about Vacuumland at the moment but let's wait till something does happen.


"Is it the hitler-youth thing?"

"I'm very anti-racism in any way."

Irony!


"And you won't be the first overly anxious 16 y.o."

Neither will i be the last.
So lets have some respect for minors here and not make them feel UN-welcome?

Gatekeepers like you are partially the reason why Vacuumland isn't as active as it was before.

btw pic unrelated its just a cool pic

 

[vacuumdevil]

@gregvacs28 Nobody believes you you should just leave.

I asked about you in some of the other forms the things people have said confirms how poor of a human being you are.

 

[gregvacs28]

"So lets have some respect for minors here and not make them feel UN-welcome?

Gatekeepers like you are partially the reason why Vacuumland isn't as active as it was before."

You're NOT getting any free pass.

Special consideration: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">most definitely.</span>


 


 




Let's have respect for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">experienced</span> members from whom which this site wouldn't exist if they weren't here.


 


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

 

[vacuumdevil]

@gregvacs28 Being obsessed with Nazis makes people feel unwelcome.

Also get the fuck out of here at that bullshit !

 

[gregvacs28]

vacuumdevil

Is it hitting too close to home for you? 


 


Making you nervous?


 


Why should you be uncomfortable unless it applies somehow?


 


 


Your general sweeping dismissive comments are laughable in addition to being rude.


 

 

[Deleted member 5000]

dumpster fire thread lets gooooo!

"You're NOT getting any free pass."

Oh! No wonder this site has a low active user count.

"Let's have respect for experienced members from whom which this site wouldn't exist if they weren't here."

I doubt they will exist in the next 50 years so if you don't let young people in this website will go extinct! :O


"Is it hitting too close to home for you?"
"Making you nervous?"
"Why should you be uncomfortable unless it applies somehow?"

Make up your mind. Are you going to be a nazi or not?

 

[electroluxxxx]

Gregsvacs28

you unhappy self loathing son of a bitch, you ought to know better being a 56 year old crippled shit. There are several Jewish members here including Robert and to make ANY reference to Hitler at all should be banning grounds. talk about stalking too, why is it that you always feel the need to personally attack people based on their profile? Viagra dose a little too high? maybe you should step it down a bit and talk to a Doctor about that issue, I think your sense of masculinity is starting to overpower the true you. You seem to be really unhappy with yourself and take it out on others... I thought living the single life was supposed to make you happy not miserable. hmm maybe that's why you can't get any!

btw I know you are going to personally attack me again based on my profile so I took the liberty of removing everything from my profile for your convenience, STALKER!

speaking of stalker... I could give you something to stalk but you aren't my type, I mean considering I am about 30 years younger than you, that would be down right creepy and kinda Pedo like. Maybe that's your style since you are a pretty big fan of Hitler!