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glue the wheel
will be the easiest thing to do, but find a new data plate, a bag with the royal or standard royal logo stamped on it and an original switch....difficult
 
Yeah I think you’re right that the model tag, bag and switch will be the biggest challenges. If I can’t find originals, I’m okay with the machine having a few reproduction parts at the end of the day. Thanks for all of your responses, it’s fun learning more about the vacuum’s history.

Does anyone know the collector who Sam was restoring the Royal for in his videos? are they a member on the forum?
 
Can anyone verify the date of the machine and exactly what the nameplate should look like based on the 341543 on the fan housing? Is it in fact a 1925 model? It looks like there are a couple different styles of nameplates that were used on these early models. It would be so helpful if someone could post a quality image of the appropriate data tag for this machine. I think creating a close replica of the nameplate may be possible. Thanks!
 
Can anyone help to verify the date of the machine and what the nameplate should look like based on the 341543 on the fan housing? Is it in fact a 1925 model? It looks like there are a couple different styles of nameplates that were used on these early models. It would be so helpful if someone could post a quality image of the appropriate data tag for this machine. I think creating a close replica of the nameplate may be possible.

Here are a few of the nameplate designs I’ve been able to find online in photos or videos. The first seems to be the one with the closest number to my machine.

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Ben Well there are 2 types of plates for the royal from 1920 to 1925 (one in brass and one in nickel) both were painted with yellow and blue paint
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=23/07/o6m5.jpg
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=23/07/ekl2.jpg
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=23/07/w29n.jpg
the plates of the models E and F were in brass with orange paint
some plate it is registered made in the usa and some made in canada
depending on where the vacuum cleaner was made !!
I hope I've helped you.Romain

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Wheel restoration

I fix broken wheels by gluing the parts you have with JB Weld epoxy and covering
the chips and missing pieces with Sugru.
After the Sugru is dry, I put a bolt through the wheel opening and place it in a
drill press. I spin it and sand it down smooth. This has always worked for me and
the wheel has very close to the original color.
I don't think you'll ever find a bag so I would sew one..then get a good image of
the lettering and print a transfer like you would for a Tee shirt.
I've done that also with great success.
Good Luck !
 
It seems like this is most likely the badge that came on my vac considering the numbers I’m seeing on these plates vs my serial number. This is a pretty good image to go off of. The only text I’m having trouble making out is the smaller text across the bottom. If anyone has an even clearer image of this tag I’d really appreciate it if you could post it here. Thanks to everyone for all of the help thus far!

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Well I’m working on the graphics to reproduce this badge. I’ve been able to decipher all of the text from the badge except this patent date in the bottom corner. Any ideas? Jeff does your 1926 Royal have this badge design?

My wife has a graphic design background and is helping to reproduce the graphics.

I’m thinking about working with this company to produce the new badge. One of the examples shows 2 color on brass. Will be putting the graphic together to get a quote. Hopefully it’s not too pricey!

https://etched-metal.com/brass-copper-nameplates/
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Ben,

I think that's right, but I'll have to go look at it to be sure. I do know it's blue and yellow on brass like that but not sure if the print is exactly the same, and I don't have a close-up of the plate downloaded on my computer or I would post it for you.
Jeff
 
Thanks Jeff, I don’t want to trouble you but if you have a chance to see if it’s the same badge it would be a huge help! If you can’t get a good photo, but can verify the text across the bottom of the plate that would provide the last bit of info that I need to reproduce the nameplate.

In an earlier post you discouraged disassembly of the motor. This was sold to me as not working and I was planning to fully disassemble and clean / inspect everything. Is there a reason you caution against a full disassembly? It looks pretty filthy inside. I removed the brushes and one is good, the other is very worn down.

The fan appears to be in good shape for 100 years old! Is the fan nut reverse thread like the newer Royals or is it standard thread due to the opposite rotation of the motor?
 
Ben , everything looks normal from the outside, if you plan to use your vacuum cleaner regularly, I advise you to dismantle the motor housing completely in order to check if the electric cables of the rotor and the stator are not bare and take the opportunity to clean the rotor and the copper connector, which is often very dirty.
I link you to a youtube video on the complete restoration of an antique vacuum cleaner.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8ULam1B8&ab_channel=restorationhouse
 
Thanks Romain, that’s a very nice restoration and really enjoyed watching their process. I don’t plan to use this one much but I think I will still take it apart and clean everything up. I’d really like to find the date on the armature as well.
 
Ben,

I'll have a look at the plate as soon as I can get to it, but if I take a picture of it, it will be a while before I can post it, as I still use a film camera and I would have to finish the roll, get it developed, and scan the print before I can post it. As for disassembly of the motor, if you're going to be working on it that's OK. I just don't recommend taking it apart just to see the date stamp on the armature. If I remember correctly, the nut on the fan will have a standard thread since the motor rotates in the opposite direction from the later models.
Jeff
 
Thanks Jeff, no worries and no rush. if you’re able to verify that it’s the same plate and write down the text that’s on the bottom left of the plate, that would work as well. I really appreciate the help from everyone here.
 
I'm working on removal of the fan so that I can disassemble the motor. It appears that the fan is threaded onto the motor shaft in addition to being held on by the nut. I was able to remove the fan nut successfully and it is standard thread. I don't want to damage anything and I am looking for a way to hold the motor shaft while unscrewing the fan off of the shaft. I don't see the access holes in the side of the motor that I've seen on the newer Royals. Is there a trick for holding the motor shaft while removing the fan? I have worked on a few old Emerson fans and there is an access hole to a spot on the shaft where a screwdriver can be used to hold the motor but I'm not seeing anything on this motor. Thanks
 

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