alexhoovers94
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I did "contribute" I said a Hoover Senior, Junior or Turbopower 1/Turbomaster also the Panasonic 40 series and Elite/Turbolite
Vacuums that make you satisfied
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A vacuum being 'satisfying to use', to me would be..
Easy to get out, easy to manuver, easy to hold, easy to empty and/or attach tools (attachments). AND, when you're done, you can see a beautifully cleaned carpet...proving your efforts were not wasted.
For ME, everytime I get a HOOVER out, plug it in, turn it on, i KNOW I'll hear that "hum". I KNOW I'll see those tracks, i KNOW when I'm finished, I'll once more have a nice clean home with proper lines on my carpets.
That's "MY" definition of satisfaction.
Easy to get out, easy to manuver, easy to hold, easy to empty and/or attach tools (attachments). AND, when you're done, you can see a beautifully cleaned carpet...proving your efforts were not wasted.
For ME, everytime I get a HOOVER out, plug it in, turn it on, i KNOW I'll hear that "hum". I KNOW I'll see those tracks, i KNOW when I'm finished, I'll once more have a nice clean home with proper lines on my carpets.
That's "MY" definition of satisfaction.
alexhoovers94
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"everytime I get a HOOVER out, plug it in, turn it on, i KNOW I'll hear that "hum". I KNOW I'll see those tracks, i KNOW when I'm finished, I'll once more have a nice clean home with proper lines on my carpets."
At least someone agrees with me. Lol.
At least someone agrees with me. Lol.
sebo_fan
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Yes Alex but in reply 16 you asked why a Dyson should be satisfying to use?
Or have you ignored this action completely?
Or have you ignored this action completely?
alexhoovers94
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Well why is it satisfying? It has an uncomfortable handle, has week suction and just skims the carpet? Why on EARTH would you be satisfied with that.
vintagerepairer
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Imeleda Marcos and Saxone
Ah Turbo, I see you share a love of one of the nations favourite comediennes too.
Ah Turbo, I see you share a love of one of the nations favourite comediennes too.
I was
counting on that.
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counting on that.
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sebo_fan
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Yet again Thats your opinion, of which this post does not ASK you to qualify a statement.
And yet again you feel as if you are right and everyone else is wrong.
And yet again you feel as if you are right and everyone else is wrong.
alexhoovers94
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I appreciate your analysis
I find the DC01 satisfying to use because it has a bright yellow insert which means it's easy and nice to see the fluff ball spinning around They always pick up something, Run a vacuum over a carpet, then go over it with a DC01
Gotcha!
They always pick up something, Run a vacuum over a carpet, then go over it with a DC01Gotcha!
I agree with KenKart!!
Really..
it makes me happy and content to use something that has stood the test of time, and was made right here in the good old days when quality reigned, I dare say very few vacuums built today will be around 50 or 75 years from now!
it makes me happy and content to use something that has stood the test of time, and was made right here in the good old days when quality reigned, I dare say very few vacuums built today will be around 50 or 75 years from now!
Most of the vacuums I use are of the "old school" type--Kirbys,Royals,Hoover Convertibles,Saniaires,etc.The NSS M1 is an "old school" canister!And yes they can last 50 years easily-even under heavy commercial use!
turbo500
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Run a vacuum over a carpet, then go over it with a DC01
Run a DC01 over the carpet and then go over it with ANY OTHER bagged upright and you'll see what it's leaving behind. Even being completely impartial for a moment, the DC01 and DC03 really were pathetic excuses for an upright vacuum.
Gotcha!
Run a DC01 over the carpet and then go over it with ANY OTHER bagged upright and you'll see what it's leaving behind. Even being completely impartial for a moment, the DC01 and DC03 really were pathetic excuses for an upright vacuum.
Gotcha!
"Fluffball spinning in the container"yes-thats carpet fluff the Dyson brushroll is tearing from your carpet!Some Dyson rolls are HARD on carpets!
sebo_fan
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I think we all know that most vacuums today are never as well built as the old ones. Even today, things like microwave ovens, shavers, mobile phones, hand mixers and even toasters aren't as well built as they used to be - but we didn't have as cheap manufacture as we do now.
Even when Hoover brought out their plastic hard box uprights they made claims that they were lighter to push/lift because of the manufacture and trying to steer the buyers away from "the last of the classic uprights."
But then when you look back, homes in general didn't have half of the expensive premium floor coverings available now, either, or for that matter laminate flooring - vinyl or lino existed a lot as it is cheap covering (and still is) but it isn't going to suit everyone nowadays.
Then there's the air quality and what contributes to dust in the home.
I think today's vacuum cleaner has a lot more to pick up than what the 1970's homes had.
Even when Hoover brought out their plastic hard box uprights they made claims that they were lighter to push/lift because of the manufacture and trying to steer the buyers away from "the last of the classic uprights."
But then when you look back, homes in general didn't have half of the expensive premium floor coverings available now, either, or for that matter laminate flooring - vinyl or lino existed a lot as it is cheap covering (and still is) but it isn't going to suit everyone nowadays.
Then there's the air quality and what contributes to dust in the home.
I think today's vacuum cleaner has a lot more to pick up than what the 1970's homes had.
suckolux
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Agree pretty much, but a lot of our 70s homes were very heavy with drapes, big over stuffed furniture and that damn thick dense shag carpet was all over, get out the rakes! Yes we had them.Plus back then the climate control and window seals were not as good. No need I suppose to mention the ash trays in every room.
sebo_fan
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Yes, true but then children were playing outside, climbing trees and not born with half the allergies they have today.
Out of interest one of my old school friends has a certain bagless vacuum and constantly wraps her kids in cotton wool in terms of "making her own soap" etc and approaching everything from an Organic slant. Sadly she has fallen prey to the organic world of over pricing everything. Despite the onus of making everything in terms of bath oils, shampoos etc for her and her family, they still suffer from itchy eyes, dust allergies and rashes.
When questioned what she has in terms of a vacuum cleaner, it is a TOL model she has had for three years and when I asked her when the last time she cleaned out the on board filter, I got a blank look!
I can't speak for the U.S obviously but UK curtains and furnishings in the 1970s were far better built and far more durable. There's a lesson learnt there - no wonder so many people in the UK are sourcing old materials and vintage stuff again.
Out of interest one of my old school friends has a certain bagless vacuum and constantly wraps her kids in cotton wool in terms of "making her own soap" etc and approaching everything from an Organic slant. Sadly she has fallen prey to the organic world of over pricing everything. Despite the onus of making everything in terms of bath oils, shampoos etc for her and her family, they still suffer from itchy eyes, dust allergies and rashes.
When questioned what she has in terms of a vacuum cleaner, it is a TOL model she has had for three years and when I asked her when the last time she cleaned out the on board filter, I got a blank look!
I can't speak for the U.S obviously but UK curtains and furnishings in the 1970s were far better built and far more durable. There's a lesson learnt there - no wonder so many people in the UK are sourcing old materials and vintage stuff again.
suckolux
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I have that same type of friend! Mutant organic, ect.She has a popular ball model that she never cleans out! Plus huge suv that burns oil and lots of recreation vehicles, I have to wonder what she/ they think those run on?
alexhoovers94
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Tayyab... you need to meet HOOVER 70s, 80's and 90's then use a DC01...after using a Hoover, the DC01 will be like pushing around a baby walker.
turbo500
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Tayyab, you've missed the point completely.
ALL vacuums leave dust behind and whichever vacuum goes second is likely to still pick something up. It's a very old marketing technique. But the DC01 and DC03 both have a pretty pathetic brushroll and very low suction, it's common sense that a cleaner with a better brushroll (longer, stiffer bristles to get deeper into the carpet pile and possibly beater bars) and more suction power will pick up more.
ALL vacuums leave dust behind and whichever vacuum goes second is likely to still pick something up. It's a very old marketing technique. But the DC01 and DC03 both have a pretty pathetic brushroll and very low suction, it's common sense that a cleaner with a better brushroll (longer, stiffer bristles to get deeper into the carpet pile and possibly beater bars) and more suction power will pick up more.
sebo_fan
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The thing to remember is, the DC01 was really the first proper Dyson after that pink thing in Japan. It wasn't supposed to be the "best vacuum on the market" but rather a showcase in what Dyson's ideas were. Thus, the model wasn't beset with the "best of the design functions" that other brands already occupied.
I was looking at one of my old Hoover brochures yesterday and what is remarkable about the Hoover Turbopower is that the models that had the tools on board failed to mimic the same ones that were sold in the tool kit - i.e twist to ratchet-lock and adopt friction fit instead. Obviously good for Hoover to sell a box alongside for models that didn't have the on board tools - but even at that, the tools were better than those offered by Dyson - but that can be forgiven since the DC01 was the first of many Dysons to come.
The thing that I didn't like about the DC01 when we initially got one was the fact that it failed to clean flat to the floor and eventually managed to turn our wool carpet into a lot of mess because of the abrasive way the brush roll cleaned the pile.
Had Dyson actually looked at the Hoover Junior that he moaned about losing suction because he was too lazy to buy dust bags, he'd have used the same kind of brush roll and far more inspiration rather than design something completely different.
He could have used any bagged vacuum to highlight bag inefficiency.
I was looking at one of my old Hoover brochures yesterday and what is remarkable about the Hoover Turbopower is that the models that had the tools on board failed to mimic the same ones that were sold in the tool kit - i.e twist to ratchet-lock and adopt friction fit instead. Obviously good for Hoover to sell a box alongside for models that didn't have the on board tools - but even at that, the tools were better than those offered by Dyson - but that can be forgiven since the DC01 was the first of many Dysons to come.
The thing that I didn't like about the DC01 when we initially got one was the fact that it failed to clean flat to the floor and eventually managed to turn our wool carpet into a lot of mess because of the abrasive way the brush roll cleaned the pile.
Had Dyson actually looked at the Hoover Junior that he moaned about losing suction because he was too lazy to buy dust bags, he'd have used the same kind of brush roll and far more inspiration rather than design something completely different.
He could have used any bagged vacuum to highlight bag inefficiency.
Miss Mercy
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My 2012 Kirby Sentria II
You know what
Actually, come to think of it, the Bissell Easy Vac I had for a short while was an OK vac and I wondered why it picked up more than my DC25 Animal!
Dyson brushbars are round things with bristles, in comparison to the Bissell which was like a beater bar!
Give me a Werthiem or Hoover any day! Plus the DC65 Dyson looks like it has a beater bar!
Got me(!)
Actually, come to think of it, the Bissell Easy Vac I had for a short while was an OK vac and I wondered why it picked up more than my DC25 Animal!
Dyson brushbars are round things with bristles, in comparison to the Bissell which was like a beater bar!
Give me a Werthiem or Hoover any day! Plus the DC65 Dyson looks like it has a beater bar!
Got me(!)
madaboutsebo
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The DC65 doesn't look like it has a beater bar, all Dyson has done is removed the 2 different rows of bristles (which where 2 different lengths, as per the DC41) and added one row that is spiralled around the brush bar more (DC40 only has one row) on a raised bed. Then increased the motor via the electronic control board to use 25% more power which they say drives the bristles deeper to release more dirt! The head from the side looks smaller and the bristles are stubby, probably very stiff too!
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