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1930's model Air-way sanitary systems (uprights) and the purple Sanitizor
Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Group Convention
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1930's model Hoover's. My favorite models!
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1919 Kirby Vacuettes. The FIRST vacuum that Scott and Fetzer made (despite their fake 100th anniversary).
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Alex Braun with Austin Wilder's vacuum cleaner bag jacket.
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Me demonstrating the unique features of the Air-way sanitary system to my friends and fellow collectors group members.
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Chris Spoon with Russ's beautiful Hoover Constellation. On the end is Russ's battery powered nozzle. Works like a Miele.
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'd have to side with Tom on this matter. Looking at the page referenced above by eurekastar, it states "The Kirby Company has manufactured high-quality vacuum cleaners in the United States for NEARLY 100 years." [emphasis added]</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">But the "Kirby 100" logo has "1914-2014" on it. That's not "nearly" 100 years; that -is- 100 years, which is vaguely disingenuous at best and outright misleading at worst.</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">There was no Kirby vacuum cleaner or Kirby Company in 1914. Scott & Fetzer's machine shop was not making vacuum cleaners in 1914. That did not begin until 1919.</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">So while technically 2014 is the 100th anniversary of the Scott & Fetzer Company as such, the 100th anniversary of the Scott & Fetzer vacuum cleaner will be in 2019.</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">And if you wanna get reeeeeally technical about it, the first Scott & Fetzer vacuum cleaner to bear the name KIRBY didn't come out until 1935, thus meaning the 100th anniversary of the KIRBY VACUUM CLEANER, as so named, will be in 2035.</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Granted, it's an issue that no one but some of us vacuum cleaner collectors care about. But given the obsessively microscopic focus many of us have on details and history of our favorite brands and models, it's surprising to me that this isn't a bigger deal to more people. I guess getting free coffee mugs and t-shirts goes a long way toward persuading folks to overlook inaccurate advertising.......</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">(And BTW, there are typos all over the place on that page.)</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">P.S.: Did y'all know that the Model 516, introduced in 1956, was trumpeted as the "First totally new, dramatically redesigned Kirby in over 20 years!" It was called the "50th Anniversary Kirby" in company literature, although that seems to be stretching the point a little. Granted, according to company literature, Jim Kirby made his first mechanically operated sweeper in 1906, (*) but, again, the first machine to bear the "Kirby" name did not come out until 1935.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">(*) An illustrated one-page brochure put out by the Kirby company in 1982 entitled "A Brief Kirby Product History"states "1906 - Mr. Kirby's first vacuum cleaner was operated by hand power... Dust was separated by drawing dust-laden air through water." So one wonders why didn't they celebrate their 100th anniversary in 2006!</span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'd have to side with Tom on this matter. Looking at the page referenced above by eurekastar, it states "The Kirby Company has manufactured high-quality vacuum cleaners in the United States for NEARLY 100 years." [emphasis added]</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">But the "Kirby 100" logo has "1914-2014" on it. That's not "nearly" 100 years; that -is- 100 years, which is vaguely disingenuous at best and outright misleading at worst.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">There was no Kirby vacuum cleaner or Kirby Company in 1914. Scott & Fetzer's machine shop was not making vacuum cleaners in 1914. That did not begin until 1919.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">So while technically 2014 is the 100th anniversary of the Scott & Fetzer Company as such, the 100th anniversary of the Scott & Fetzer vacuum cleaner will be in 2019.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">And if you wanna get reeeeeally technical about it, the first Scott & Fetzer vacuum cleaner to bear the name KIRBY didn't come out until 1935, thus meaning the 100th anniversary of the KIRBY VACUUM CLEANER, as so named, will be in 2035.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Granted, it's an issue that no one but some of us vacuum cleaner collectors care about. But given the obsessively microscopic focus many of us have on details and history of our favorite brands and models, it's surprising to me that this isn't a bigger deal to more people. I guess getting free coffee mugs and t-shirts goes a long way toward persuading folks to overlook inaccurate advertising.......</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">(And BTW, there are typos all over the place on that page.)</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">P.S.: Did y'all know that the Model 516, introduced in 1956, was trumpeted as the "First totally new, dramatically redesigned Kirby in over 20 years!" It was called the "50th Anniversary Kirby" in company literature, although that seems to be stretching the point a little. Granted, according to company literature, Jim Kirby made his first mechanically operated sweeper in 1906, (*) but, again, the first machine to bear the "Kirby" name did not come out until 1935.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">(*) An illustrated one-page brochure put out by the Kirby company in 1982 entitled "A Brief Kirby Product History"states "1906 - Mr. Kirby's first vacuum cleaner was operated by hand power... Dust was separated by drawing dust-laden air through water." So one wonders why didn't they celebrate their 100th anniversary in 2006!</span>
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1950's Fabulousness!!! So "pank".
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Going through Alex's garage. You wouldn't believe the treasures we found in there. Every single person went away with something for their collection. I came away with nine machines. Including a Kirby 2c. love going to Alex's house
filterqueenman
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getting free coffee mugs and t-shirts goes a long way....
You offer some great facts but the condescending remarks in my personal opinion take away from what was a well thought out response. This is like beating a dead horse. Give it a rest already. You have your theory others have them...and so life goes on....
You guys have such an issues with this then write to Kirby, don't blow the wonderful time members who attended the convention in OH. had at the Kirby Company. It is like raining on someone's parade.
You offer some great facts but the condescending remarks in my personal opinion take away from what was a well thought out response. This is like beating a dead horse. Give it a rest already. You have your theory others have them...and so life goes on....
You guys have such an issues with this then write to Kirby, don't blow the wonderful time members who attended the convention in OH. had at the Kirby Company. It is like raining on someone's parade.
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I'm not blowing anybody's good times nor am I raining on their parade.
Facts Are Facts. There's nothing "theoretical" about facts.
Some of us care enough about the factual history of vacuum cleaners to point out discrepancies and inaccuracies in companies' promotional efforts. My "mugs and t-shirts" comment was a bit snarky, granted, but that's just my writing style. I should have known someone would pull it out of context and make a big deal about it.
As you say, "Life Goes On."
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I'm not blowing anybody's good times nor am I raining on their parade.
Facts Are Facts. There's nothing "theoretical" about facts.
Some of us care enough about the factual history of vacuum cleaners to point out discrepancies and inaccuracies in companies' promotional efforts. My "mugs and t-shirts" comment was a bit snarky, granted, but that's just my writing style. I should have known someone would pull it out of context and make a big deal about it.
As you say, "Life Goes On."
filterqueenman
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Yep
You say Snarky I say nasty.... How did I take your SNARKY comment out of context...it was Snarky you admit it! As I said Life goes on - I love your passion I do not like your overtones. Shame you have a lot to share but honestly a total turn off when you add as you say Snarky comments!!!!
You say Snarky I say nasty.... How did I take your SNARKY comment out of context...it was Snarky you admit it! As I said Life goes on - I love your passion I do not like your overtones. Shame you have a lot to share but honestly a total turn off when you add as you say Snarky comments!!!!
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Who's beating a dead horse now? Time to move on.
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Who's beating a dead horse now? Time to move on.
I can see valid points from both sides of the aisle.
Technically speaking Tom is correct in that the first Kirby cleaner was not manufactured in 1914.
Generally speaking Alex is correct that Kirby is going back to its roots (the initial developments of what would become Kirby cleaners) by celebrating its hundredth in 2014.
The decision to mark 1914 as the company's beginning was made prior to its 50th in 1964, so Kirby's old regime was responsible; not recent management.
Jimmy raises some good points, too, about how other companies have marked their beginnings not necessarily by their popular products or by the first product branded with the company name but by developments which led to the product or name.
Someone even pointed out in another thread that Electrolux USA was a division of AB Electrolux, so technically its claim that Electrolux is 90 years old is incorrect (one could correctly say that Aerus/Electrolux USA is 90). AB Lux, the company that made possible the manufacture of Axel Wenner-Gren's 1912 Model I vacuum cleaner, had actually begun in 1901 by selling kerosene lamps. The merger of AB Elektron's Elektromekaniska, both owned by Wenner-Gren, and AB Lux occurred in 1919 at which time the Electro-lux name was born (the hyphen being omitted sometime later).
So saying that Aerus is the "original Electrolux" is untrue. The original Electrolux is a Swedish product that began prior to the 1924 start of the USA division. A more accurate claim, then, would be to state that Aerus was the manufacturer of the popular Model XXX, Model G, and Ultralux models (among others)--or that Aerus continues the manufacture of products established by Electrolux USA in 1924. Do I think it's worth arguing over? No. I can simply disagree with someone who says Aerus is the original Electrolux and move forward.
That being said, I think this forum is at its best when persons are humble enough to know that no one has all the answers, so sharing our knowledge and opinions is valuable to help us all grow. Correspondingly, we need to respectfully point out facts we have learned without being confrontational or condescending. Many on this forum (albeit not all) have a passion for collecting vacuum cleaners & vacuum cleaner accessories and shampooers/scrubbers/buffers. That passion can either divide or unite--it's up to each contributor.
Technically speaking Tom is correct in that the first Kirby cleaner was not manufactured in 1914.
Generally speaking Alex is correct that Kirby is going back to its roots (the initial developments of what would become Kirby cleaners) by celebrating its hundredth in 2014.
The decision to mark 1914 as the company's beginning was made prior to its 50th in 1964, so Kirby's old regime was responsible; not recent management.
Jimmy raises some good points, too, about how other companies have marked their beginnings not necessarily by their popular products or by the first product branded with the company name but by developments which led to the product or name.
Someone even pointed out in another thread that Electrolux USA was a division of AB Electrolux, so technically its claim that Electrolux is 90 years old is incorrect (one could correctly say that Aerus/Electrolux USA is 90). AB Lux, the company that made possible the manufacture of Axel Wenner-Gren's 1912 Model I vacuum cleaner, had actually begun in 1901 by selling kerosene lamps. The merger of AB Elektron's Elektromekaniska, both owned by Wenner-Gren, and AB Lux occurred in 1919 at which time the Electro-lux name was born (the hyphen being omitted sometime later).
So saying that Aerus is the "original Electrolux" is untrue. The original Electrolux is a Swedish product that began prior to the 1924 start of the USA division. A more accurate claim, then, would be to state that Aerus was the manufacturer of the popular Model XXX, Model G, and Ultralux models (among others)--or that Aerus continues the manufacture of products established by Electrolux USA in 1924. Do I think it's worth arguing over? No. I can simply disagree with someone who says Aerus is the original Electrolux and move forward.
That being said, I think this forum is at its best when persons are humble enough to know that no one has all the answers, so sharing our knowledge and opinions is valuable to help us all grow. Correspondingly, we need to respectfully point out facts we have learned without being confrontational or condescending. Many on this forum (albeit not all) have a passion for collecting vacuum cleaners & vacuum cleaner accessories and shampooers/scrubbers/buffers. That passion can either divide or unite--it's up to each contributor.
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Kevin
Simply excellent response!!!!!!!!!
Simply excellent response!!!!!!!!!
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Tom,
That humble gathering of vacuum collector friends looks like FUN! One day I'm making the trip to St.James!
I agree with you about the 1919 start date of Jim Kirby's vacuum manufacturing career with Scott & Fetzer, Kirby is likely not celebrating KIRBY'S 100th, but rather there parent company, Scott & Fetzer. Kirby has had 2014 set in stone since 1964, when the all-new Dual-Speed 50th anniversary model was launched (including special 1964 lighted headlamp lens).
That humble gathering of vacuum collector friends looks like FUN! One day I'm making the trip to St.James!
I agree with you about the 1919 start date of Jim Kirby's vacuum manufacturing career with Scott & Fetzer, Kirby is likely not celebrating KIRBY'S 100th, but rather there parent company, Scott & Fetzer. Kirby has had 2014 set in stone since 1964, when the all-new Dual-Speed 50th anniversary model was launched (including special 1964 lighted headlamp lens).
I have been to the vacuum museum and cherish my time there and the friends I have made. I also enjoyed the Kirby celebration and how all the companies treated us and fed us and were so nice. I am glad there are companies such as Kirby, Filter Queen, and Tacony that manufacture in the USA! I am even happier that I have been in all of those factories. 
. I am attaching some of the photos I took of the fun weekend.
. I am attaching some of the photos I took of the fun weekend.
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Missy Mae, sleeping in her chair about 10 minutes after the last person left my house after the Barbecue to end the Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Group Convention. She's just a year and a half old, really still a puppy, and all the excitement got to her. I can't begin to imagine what she'll be like next year.
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