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Hey Hans. It WAS just as much fun as the old VCCC conventions used to be when we first joined the club. Instead of a banquet, my boyfriend barbecued while all the guys played with vacuums. Your standing isn't determined by what rare machines you have. No stupid cocktail parties and awards. Everyone leaves smarter than they arrived (about vacuums) and virtually everyone left with a new treasure.
 
Tom,

Looks like a fun time was had by all. Greatto see all those cleaners.
We had a great time as well. Although i NEVER tasted a dropf alcohol., a nice cocktsail party can be a lot of fun. Games, retorations, vacuum frollicking in general can be a fun time. Our dinner was simple but quite tasty. At no time dsid anyone bash any other functions.... am I right, Gang? Just the opposite, actually. THer are plenty of vacs to go around. And there are plenty of enthusiasts. I'd say, for the most part, our convention (40 people) was drama free.
Thanks for those pics.
 
Hi Mr. Long, Sir!

This was like stepping back into my garage/museum in Naperville, Illinois in the early 1990's. And it was great to be back at Kirby.

Right now I'm on the computer at the hotel, I leave for Amtrak at midnight (2:00 am departure) Yes Alex turns back into a pumpkin again, and retreats to his 100 acre farm!

It was also great to welcome some new members, and teach the history of the vacuum cleaner again.

It was an awesome weekend!

Alex Taber.
 
Oh Alex

I'm so very happy that you guys had a great weekend. I had actually forgotten all about it until my old friend Bill Kirby reminded me. How sad that no pictures were allowed to be taken at the factory. It must be a great mystery as to how a Kirby vacuum cleaner is made. While I'm sure it's very, very difficult to make one model for several years, the Tacony factory is busy producing 81 models on 23 assembly lines. With all of that going on above my head, at the world's only vacuum cleaner Museum, it is sometimes hard to think. Since I am involved with the Proto type models, I never think to hide them from my friends. We had a great time this weekend playing with some of them. I'm delighted you had a great time at Kirbys fake 100th anniversary. I understand the rainbow company has decided that 2015 is their fake one hundredth anniversary as well. I mean it's not like there are any vacuum cleaner collectors to challenge them on it. I am particularly happy to hear that you got into the filter Queen factory again. I remember when I went more than 10 years ago when I was still a member of the VCCC. I hope everyone got to see the dual cyclonic, bagless filter Queen that James Dyson designed for them. I must dig the picture out that I took when we were there last time. Jimmy Martin won a defender and Dan Marino brought his chrome plated Lewyt electronic. Good times, good memories.
 
The VCCC convention was right there in Cleveland at one of the hotels by the Airport. The museum is in St. Joseph MO, at the Tacony factory where Riccar, Simplicity and Maytag vacuums are made.
 
Hi tom.

Words cannot describe how happy I am right now, Other than a few new testing machines, and of course a new model, Kirby was everything I remember when I was there as a training manager in 1981.

As for the pictures, this is common, most companies prohibits photographs. If you recall, Stan Kann told us the same thing at the Fox theater in 06. In fact, I recall the stage manager threatening to call off rehearsals for Phantom of the Opera unless people stopped taking photos of the stage. 'No pictures' was a requirement in every Broadway show. As for Kirby, my sales crew had to sign the same type letter stating that we would not photograph anything. Electrolux also told me that in 1968 when I sold the 1205, so it's not strictly Kirby.

Do I care? no! I saw the machines in development, and have that picture in my mind forever. Hoover, Air-Way, Electrolux and countless others were closed mouthed about new models, in fact, as you know, because you were there, the V.C.C.C. was lucky enough to be in there, the models vault at Hoover was off limits to most staff. Only the top of the top brass got in there. That's why it was such an honor for me in 1980, and John Lucia and I in 82 to be in there, as well as the club in 94. And I'll go further, when John Lucia and I had an interview with Jackie Love at Hoover for the Hoover News, telling of our interest, it was pulled because I worked for Kirby. The reason? conflict of interest. Kirby did not pull that on us, but opened their doors.

You of all people know how hard I fought to get vacuum cleaner companies to answer my letters in the first months of the V.C.C.C.! Only now, are companies like Kirby, Filter Queen and so on embracing the V.C.C.C., so why bite the hand that feeds us?

The same stands true of the security guard watching us, that's his job, and would do it if the tour was a high school group, or any organization you can name. So business and technology are what they are, I'm not offended in the least.

A very happy Alex Taber.

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The Kirby front talk.

As a training manager I had to drum this into the heads of every new trainee.

"The Kirby is named after it's inventor, James B. Kirby, and is a division of the Scott & Fetzer company, which has been in business since 1914." Therefore, the 'Kirby company' falls under that timeframe. As for Mr. Kirby, he was manufacturing vacuum cleaners as early as 1906. Do I care if it's 1914, or 1919? no, I'm just glad I had the chance to be there.

Nobody seems to grumble if a movie is not accurate. The Sound of Music is a great story, but it's the Hollywood version of the Von Trapp family. It's also full of half truths and outright lies. As for Kirby, numerous people in the top management, as well as those at Scott & Fetzer are going with 1914-2014.

I can live with that!
 
I can't live with that Alex. The "Kirby Company" is a division of Scott and Fetzer. Scott and Fetzer wouldn't meet until 1915. Jim Kirby wouldn't meet either of them until 1917. No "Kirby" designed vacuum was made by Scott and Fetzer until 1919. I'm sorry, but I work in the world's only Vacuum Cleaner Museum, I just can't ignore the fact this isn't the Kirby Company's anniversary year.

The "100th Anniversary" is the brain child of the marketing department, it has no basis in facts. However, there shouldn't be anyone alive who would know the difference. But we do. By going along with it, it perpetuates the myth. Does it matter? No. They'll still sell lots of Kirbys and the half truth doesn't matter to the ultimate customer.

I'll be sure to make the suggestion to Tacony's marketing department that Simplicity should have a fake 100th anniversary this year as well. After all, if actual vacuum cleaner collectors and their 'club' don't care, why shouldn't every manufacturer have a fake anniversary?

I'm delighted to hear you all had a good time. The last time I was at Kirby and Filter Queen, I was still part of the VCCC. I'm sure it was as good this time as last. The last time I was at Filter Queen with the VCCC, we saw the prototype that James Dyson made of a dual cyclonic FQ. Now that was something to see. I hope you all got to see it this year.

Maybe we'll use MAYTAG (since we make Maytag vacuums) as our "100th Anniversary" model.

Here's Russ from Florida (and a Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Group member) with a Maytag M1200 "fake anniversary model".

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I've not lost a minute of sleep over it, myself.

It certainly isn't my place to tell a company what to do or not to do. I was glad to see the factory, even though everyone knows I'm 100% HOOVER. It was great to stand in 3 U.S. companies, full of very proud people.
That's a might nice looking Russ there, too. Although I don't know him, I appreciate good looking things.and people.
 
Alex:

You've always been a 'historian' and worked very hard to research companies in the past. I'm just shocked that you don't care. I really believed you were more passionate about ACCURACY than that.

As I said, it actually doesn't matter (to anyone other than a vacuum cleaner collector like me). The marketing departments always have 'gimmicks' they use to make people feel good about their expensive purchase. Who cares if they claim to be 100 or 200 years old. All that matters is that they sell what they make. Any manufacturer cares only about that.

Perhaps because I DO work for a vacuum cleaner manufacturer, and we DID launch over 20 new models in January of this past year, I understand all that goes into it. I'm glad Kirby was gracious to your group and that you all had fun.

I just cannot in good conscience pretend that it's Kirby's 100th anniversary. Especially since 2010 was Jim Kirby's ACTUAL 100th anniversary of a Kirby vacuum cleaner (The Frantz Premier). 2014 is Jim Kirby's ACTUAL anniversary of his first non-electric (The EZEE Grasshopper - made by Frantz Premier and NOT Scott and Fetzer). They were both production model vacuums, made in great quantities and sold to the public - many years before Scott and Fetzer came along.

But on the other hand - who cares. Maybe I can talk Tacony's marketing department into celebrating Simplicity's fake 100th anniversary next year. After all, vacuum collectors won't care.
 
vacuum company dates

Some good points above.Also-
Didn't REGINA use 1892 when they started with music boxes(one is in a nearby museum)?
And didn't ROYAL use 1905?Did they even have a vac in 1905?
But HOOVER did the 'right' thing by not using leather product dates on 'the HOOVER'.
I think we do care but also know or can find out other information that at least lets us understand any reasons for stated dates.
For the average customer it might be good to have a '100th anniv Maytag'even though a collector will know the rest of the story decade by decade.
 
Tom.

My mom told me as a kid. "If you know you're right it doesn't matter what other people think!" As a dyed in the wool Kirby collector, and historian, I know for a fact that this WAS the 100th anniversary of the Kirby division of the Scott & Fetzer company!

You and I have disagreed in the past, and always about trivial things. I do care about Kirby, but not about fighting. I won't go there.

And that is the last comment I'm going to make on this subject,
Robert Alexander Taber.
 
Demonstrating the 1917 Torrington upright to a few of my friends during the vacuum cleaner collectors group convention. This machine has got so much suction it's unbelievable

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The airway sanitary system, with the exclusive and patented 14 layer cellulose filter fiber disposable dust container. 50 years ahead of its time

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