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Vacuflo Vs. Dirt Devil Central Vacs
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page 4. here's when the fun starts. I have the motor from a P-225 and have a P-125. Same motors, but I love the ability of the 225 to place the motor elsewhere!
page 4. here's when the fun starts. I have the motor from a P-225 and have a P-125. Same motors, but I love the ability of the 225 to place the motor elsewhere!
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page 8 Attachments!!
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page 9. Accessory tools. The tall Air turbine is a VacuFlo product. The electric brush is the original wooden brushroll Eureka.
page 9. Accessory tools. The tall Air turbine is a VacuFlo product. The electric brush is the original wooden brushroll Eureka.
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Page 10 schematics
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Last page and one of my favorites! Inlet valves. They were for many years the giveaway that a home had a VacuMaid system. The stainless are my favorites!
Last page and one of my favorites! Inlet valves. They were for many years the giveaway that a home had a VacuMaid system. The stainless are my favorites!
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DD made central vacs? never knew that.
I love all these brochures! I've got a little collection myself. A few times I will change out someone's power unit, and the original literature is sitting right on top of it. In the case of one NuTone system, the literature was blocking the motor cooling vents, and that's what caused the system to burn out!
Thought I'd make a couple contributions. The first is one of my favorite systems, the workhorse Vacuflo 26. These things run forever!
Thought I'd make a couple contributions. The first is one of my favorite systems, the workhorse Vacuflo 26. These things run forever!
And its big brother, the Vacuflo 99. You really can have two people vacuuming at once with this thing.
Finally, its little sister the 107. Has just about the same cleaning power as the 26, but in a more compact design. I've seen a few of these installed in the area.
bimmer740
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Owen,
I should have been a little more specific about what I dont like about the Lindhaus/Stealth. I agree that it is a well made p/n, I think its close in quality to the Wessel-Werks but the W-W seems to be constructed a bit better.
Its not the quality of the Lindhaus that I dislike, as it certainly is contrusted better than many other nozzles on the market, but its the lack in cleaning preformance. In my opinion the Lindhaus brush roll is pathetic, it only has a single row of bristles and they arent even stiff/aggressive enough to thoroughly clean my carpet. I'm not looking for something that has those stiff as a wire brush bristles like some of the Hoover machines have, but something that has enough strength to aggitate the carpet properly. I've never used any of my Electrolux power nozzles with my central vac but I'm certain that they would clean circle around the Lindhaus. The last time Lux redesigned their brush roll they added an "extra turn" to it and this has really improved preformance over the previous style. The other minor gripe I have with the Stealth nozzle is the dial height adjustment. Its not a huge deal but I would rather that it was controlled by a foot pedal or just a floating type like the Lux. I've said it on past threads here that it makes me wonder what Lindhaus was thinking when they decided to use that brush roll, especially after they had gone through the trouble of precisely engineering this power nozzle in every other way. I look for quality in whatever I buy and I'm fine with paying a premium price for a quality item, but I guess I also expect that quality and superior preformance should go hand in hand. I should know better by now to not assume that this isn't always the case.
The Sebo power nozzle is something that I would really like to try! I tested a Sebo vac once in a vac shop years ago and the p/n really pulled itself across the rug. The Sebo seems like it is a closer competitor to the Wessel-Werks than the Lindhaus.
I'm curious to know how loud those CentralVac units are with their motors not being housed within the unit itself? Are they much more powerful than the traditional canister style single motor central vac unit?
I should have been a little more specific about what I dont like about the Lindhaus/Stealth. I agree that it is a well made p/n, I think its close in quality to the Wessel-Werks but the W-W seems to be constructed a bit better.
Its not the quality of the Lindhaus that I dislike, as it certainly is contrusted better than many other nozzles on the market, but its the lack in cleaning preformance. In my opinion the Lindhaus brush roll is pathetic, it only has a single row of bristles and they arent even stiff/aggressive enough to thoroughly clean my carpet. I'm not looking for something that has those stiff as a wire brush bristles like some of the Hoover machines have, but something that has enough strength to aggitate the carpet properly. I've never used any of my Electrolux power nozzles with my central vac but I'm certain that they would clean circle around the Lindhaus. The last time Lux redesigned their brush roll they added an "extra turn" to it and this has really improved preformance over the previous style. The other minor gripe I have with the Stealth nozzle is the dial height adjustment. Its not a huge deal but I would rather that it was controlled by a foot pedal or just a floating type like the Lux. I've said it on past threads here that it makes me wonder what Lindhaus was thinking when they decided to use that brush roll, especially after they had gone through the trouble of precisely engineering this power nozzle in every other way. I look for quality in whatever I buy and I'm fine with paying a premium price for a quality item, but I guess I also expect that quality and superior preformance should go hand in hand. I should know better by now to not assume that this isn't always the case.
The Sebo power nozzle is something that I would really like to try! I tested a Sebo vac once in a vac shop years ago and the p/n really pulled itself across the rug. The Sebo seems like it is a closer competitor to the Wessel-Werks than the Lindhaus.
I'm curious to know how loud those CentralVac units are with their motors not being housed within the unit itself? Are they much more powerful than the traditional canister style single motor central vac unit?
Hi Steven,
You're right, the difference in agitation between the Lindhaus and WW powerheads is noticeable. I always felt that the Lindhaus cleaned well despite its lack of aggressiveness, due to the serrations in the baseplate that allow air to flow through the carpet fibers. Lindhaus products are so often sold into commercial applications, that I believe they are designing more for commercial carpet. On deep plush, the extra agitation does help to get the sand out of the bottom of the carpet.
The system in my parents' house is a Vacuflo 760, basic hoses in garage and basement, Stealth kit downstairs, SEBO ET-2 kit upstairs. They have lots of medium plush carpet and some hard floors. There's never dirt in their carpets though, so it's not a good place to test vacuums. I really should bring the powerheads to my place (where the third floor is all deep plush carpet) and see how they fare. Right now up there I'm using a Hayden hose and powerhead...I don't mind the heavy wire-reinforced hose as much because there's only one inlet in the center and it's all open space. I can still hear cat litter getting vacuumed out of the depths of the carpet from the previous owner's cats. Guess the litter box must have been up there.
You're right, the difference in agitation between the Lindhaus and WW powerheads is noticeable. I always felt that the Lindhaus cleaned well despite its lack of aggressiveness, due to the serrations in the baseplate that allow air to flow through the carpet fibers. Lindhaus products are so often sold into commercial applications, that I believe they are designing more for commercial carpet. On deep plush, the extra agitation does help to get the sand out of the bottom of the carpet.
The system in my parents' house is a Vacuflo 760, basic hoses in garage and basement, Stealth kit downstairs, SEBO ET-2 kit upstairs. They have lots of medium plush carpet and some hard floors. There's never dirt in their carpets though, so it's not a good place to test vacuums. I really should bring the powerheads to my place (where the third floor is all deep plush carpet) and see how they fare. Right now up there I'm using a Hayden hose and powerhead...I don't mind the heavy wire-reinforced hose as much because there's only one inlet in the center and it's all open space. I can still hear cat litter getting vacuumed out of the depths of the carpet from the previous owner's cats. Guess the litter box must have been up there.
And the CentralVac units (without mufflers) are quite loud...dual-motor obviously moreso than the single-motor. With mufflers on cooling air intake and working air exhaust, they're not bad.
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Owen if you do test out the power heads in your house, I'd like to hear what your results were. When I initially purchased my VacuFlo the dealer sold me the Hayden SuperPak tools which I did not like, the hose was heavier than I wanted it to be, and the power nozzle did not lower itself enough to clean the berber carpets in my house.
My best friend has a VacuFlo 760 in her house, its actually her parents but she still lives at home. Anyway, they custom built this multi-million dollar home about 8 years ago which is approximately 8,000 square feet and its outfitted with the VacuFlo. I've used it after some of the parties that we have had at the house over the years and I wasnt overly impressed by it. I thought the suction was a bit weak but its possible the screen in the unit was dirty. The 760 certainly can and does handle all the vacuuming needs in my friends house as all their floors are always spotless.
My best friend has a VacuFlo 760 in her house, its actually her parents but she still lives at home. Anyway, they custom built this multi-million dollar home about 8 years ago which is approximately 8,000 square feet and its outfitted with the VacuFlo. I've used it after some of the parties that we have had at the house over the years and I wasnt overly impressed by it. I thought the suction was a bit weak but its possible the screen in the unit was dirty. The 760 certainly can and does handle all the vacuuming needs in my friends house as all their floors are always spotless.
Hi Steven,
I would guess the screen in your friend's 760 is dirty...it should have tons of airflow when working properly. The real test is how it drives a Turbocat...it can be hard to judge if all they ever use is an electric power brush and hard floor tool. If the turbo doesn't scream, something's wrong.
I actually did a service call a few years ago on a 760 where the cyclone "can" with the screen at the bottom came off. Maybe the housekeeper thought the screen was removable? Who knows. All kinds of dirt went into the motors, but oddly, they didn't sound too bad. They just had very little if any suction. Fortunately the homeowners were original to the house and their lifetime warranty was still in effect...so two new motors cost them only the labor for installation.
That Vacuflo was one of quite a few I've seen around here that were exhausted outside without mufflers...on a 566Q the sound at the exhaust port without a muffler is bad enough. They combined the two exhausts of that 760 into one exhaust line without a muffler and it sounded like a plane taking off. I was in one house that had a 960 and two 560s (biiiiig place) and four exhaust lines, without mufflers, terminating in the same corner of the house. Talk about LOUD when all three systems were on!
I would guess the screen in your friend's 760 is dirty...it should have tons of airflow when working properly. The real test is how it drives a Turbocat...it can be hard to judge if all they ever use is an electric power brush and hard floor tool. If the turbo doesn't scream, something's wrong.
I actually did a service call a few years ago on a 760 where the cyclone "can" with the screen at the bottom came off. Maybe the housekeeper thought the screen was removable? Who knows. All kinds of dirt went into the motors, but oddly, they didn't sound too bad. They just had very little if any suction. Fortunately the homeowners were original to the house and their lifetime warranty was still in effect...so two new motors cost them only the labor for installation.
That Vacuflo was one of quite a few I've seen around here that were exhausted outside without mufflers...on a 566Q the sound at the exhaust port without a muffler is bad enough. They combined the two exhausts of that 760 into one exhaust line without a muffler and it sounded like a plane taking off. I was in one house that had a 960 and two 560s (biiiiig place) and four exhaust lines, without mufflers, terminating in the same corner of the house. Talk about LOUD when all three systems were on!
floor-a-matic
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Vacuflo MaxAir
Link of MaxAir
Boy, I hear this has record-breaking, whopping amount of suction vs. the SilentMaster?! I'm not sure if its true?
http://www.vacuflo.com/maxair-central-vacuum-systems
Link of MaxAir
Boy, I hear this has record-breaking, whopping amount of suction vs. the SilentMaster?! I'm not sure if its true?
http://www.vacuflo.com/maxair-central-vacuum-systems
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MD SilentMaster S5
Link of MD SilentMaster S5
I'm still having difficulty choosing between the SilentMaster S5 or the MaxAir, but I LOVE super-powerful suction, so I can pull out deep-down stubborn dirt from carpet
http://builtinvacuum.com/dealer/downloads/spec-sheets/MD_SilentMaster_S5_120V_Spec_Sheet.pdf
Link of MD SilentMaster S5
I'm still having difficulty choosing between the SilentMaster S5 or the MaxAir, but I LOVE super-powerful suction, so I can pull out deep-down stubborn dirt from carpet
http://builtinvacuum.com/dealer/downloads/spec-sheets/MD_SilentMaster_S5_120V_Spec_Sheet.pdf
floor-a-matic
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Aerus/Lux accessory kit
Link of Aerus/Electrolux (deluxe) tool kit
http://www.totalvac.com/49194.html
Link of Aerus/Electrolux (deluxe) tool kit
http://www.totalvac.com/49194.html
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Aerus/Electrolux classic kit
Pic of kit (from eBay)
I'm still having hard time picking which CV unit & accessory kit to go for; but I crave for TONS of power!
Pic of kit (from eBay)
I'm still having hard time picking which CV unit & accessory kit to go for; but I crave for TONS of power!
luxflairguy
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Here's what I'd pick!
Pick the Perfect package. Why? The Lux wand end is huge, ackward and heavy. The two wands are short and when you go to use the floorbrush you loose 3-4 inches in height. I'm 5'9" and it hurt my back. You also have to use the adaptor when you want to use the dusting brush. And as has been said, the hose is heavy! The power nozzle neck is prone to breaking and isn't cheap to repair.
Pick the old classic style!
My 2 cents! Greg
Pick the Perfect package. Why? The Lux wand end is huge, ackward and heavy. The two wands are short and when you go to use the floorbrush you loose 3-4 inches in height. I'm 5'9" and it hurt my back. You also have to use the adaptor when you want to use the dusting brush. And as has been said, the hose is heavy! The power nozzle neck is prone to breaking and isn't cheap to repair.
Pick the old classic style!
My 2 cents! Greg
Of the two machines shown-the Maxair or the MD silentmaster-would like the MD because it has a bag-easier and cleaner to empty than the Maxairs dust drum.For power looking at the specs-the motors in them would be about equal-the silentmaster 120V 30A or the Maxair 240V 15A.The Maxair might be easier to wire-lighter guage cable and smaller less expensive breaker.30A 120V uses are VERY rare today.
The SilentMaster S5 comes in 120 or 240 volt versions...I usually spec the 240 because it's easier on the jobsite electricians. The only time I use the 120 volt version is if I'm changing out an existing unit with a 120 volt, 30 amp circuit already present.
MaxAir vs. S5...the MaxAir is really a special-application unit for very long hoses, like what you find in Hide-A-Hose installations. It's got 208" waterlift, but only 122 CFM. A system with a standard 1 3/8", 30 foot hose makes better use of a power unit with lower waterlift and higher CFM...you really get noticeably more velocity at the power brush or floor tool. That means between the two, the S5 is your better choice. However, if you still want a Vacuflo machine, take a look at the 760 and 960. Both run on 120 volt, 30 amp circuits and have specs similar to the S5 (though even less waterlift and more CFM).
Any of those three units would be an excellent choice.
MaxAir vs. S5...the MaxAir is really a special-application unit for very long hoses, like what you find in Hide-A-Hose installations. It's got 208" waterlift, but only 122 CFM. A system with a standard 1 3/8", 30 foot hose makes better use of a power unit with lower waterlift and higher CFM...you really get noticeably more velocity at the power brush or floor tool. That means between the two, the S5 is your better choice. However, if you still want a Vacuflo machine, take a look at the 760 and 960. Both run on 120 volt, 30 amp circuits and have specs similar to the S5 (though even less waterlift and more CFM).
Any of those three units would be an excellent choice.
RE: Toolsets, you'll probably end up having one of each. Part of the fun of a central vac 
I might recommend getting the Perfect powerhead (or just a used Lux PN-6) and buying the genuine Lux hose with pistol grip...while the Perfect wire-reinforced hose is a good copy, I prefer the feel of the genuine hose handle. Downside is, there's no switch for the power nozzle on the genuine hose. My other choice would be to get the Perfect kit with a crushproof hose, which is much lighter, with better airflow, and the ability to turn off both the power unit and power nozzle. The pistol-grip wire-reinforced hose (either genuine or Perfect) starts the power unit as soon as it's plugged in.
I might recommend getting the Perfect powerhead (or just a used Lux PN-6) and buying the genuine Lux hose with pistol grip...while the Perfect wire-reinforced hose is a good copy, I prefer the feel of the genuine hose handle. Downside is, there's no switch for the power nozzle on the genuine hose. My other choice would be to get the Perfect kit with a crushproof hose, which is much lighter, with better airflow, and the ability to turn off both the power unit and power nozzle. The pistol-grip wire-reinforced hose (either genuine or Perfect) starts the power unit as soon as it's plugged in.
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Then I'll also buy a TurboCat or Hayden SuperPak?
I'll DEFINITELY go for the Perfect & Wessel Werk! That ways, when I'm in the mood to use the WW, I'll use the WW; or the Perfect when I'm in the "lux-y" mood.
Then I'll also buy a TurboCat or Hayden SuperPak?
I'll DEFINITELY go for the Perfect & Wessel Werk! That ways, when I'm in the mood to use the WW, I'll use the WW; or the Perfect when I'm in the "lux-y" mood.
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<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Is there a Compact/TriStar style attachment set available for CVS? I'm refering to the TriStar CXL style PN & tools</span>
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"You can hear the phone, doorbell or Hi-Fi. Sleeping children or invalids will not be disturbed" as it says on the old Central Vac brochure!! LOL! Times have changed!
