Vacs in the Fantom video

[fan-of-fans]

When the Fantoms came on the market, I was so impressed, I believed they would make all others obsolete. I ordered the free video, which I still have.

In the video there are some other vacuums shown. There is a beige Hoover Convertible, which a woman is shown tugging at the dust bag, trying to remove. You can also see an orange Eureka canister in a few scenes. It appears to be a straight suction. In one scene the same woman is trying to carry the vacuum up the stairs. In another she pulls the vacuum behind her and is annoyed that it gets caught on the table legs. Then she is shown sneezing while changing the dust bag in the Eureka.

I thought it was strange they used such old vacuums in the video. Those were at least 15-20 years old at the time (probably about 1994-95).

You can also see lots of vacuums (many high end) at a vacuum store that the owner claims "were all traded for Fantoms". LOL

 

[massagemiracle]

That cracks me up the vacuum store owner at 6:03 minutes claims 68 vacuums traded in for a Fantom!

 

[rainbowd4c]

Thats the funny thing about those video's is that the older vacuums are always made to look like a horrible monster. The one Eureka canister vacuum that you see my neighbor had one and she bought the Fantom used it for a little bit and decided to go back to the older Eureka.

 

[lovecanisters]

Kenmore Destiny?

Didn't Kenmore badge it first as the Destiny? or was it the other way around, Fantom sold it as a Kenmore Destiny?

 

[fan-of-fans]

I agree, they made those older vacuums look like they were dinosaurs, and those 68 machines traded for Fantoms. LOL I did not realize that Fantom had videos for each model.

lovecanisters, one of my Sears catalogs has the Kenmore Destiny. These were 11 amp machines and didn't have a HEPA filter. I think the original machines were badged as Iona Fantom, but there was no Thunder label. Later, the machines were badged as Fantom Thunder, and the data label read Fantom Technologies, Inc instead of Iona.

I believe there was a Kenmore Destiny II as well, and Kenmore also sold a rebadged Fantom Lightning in the late 1990s. I don't know if they sold any others though.

 

[vac_whisperer]

Im not doubting that Fantoms are good vacuums...


 


But that video that massagemiracle posted was full of bull%&$@. Sorry.


 


Who in their right mind would say that a Fantom is better and has more quality than a Kirby? No way.


And who in their right mind would say that a Fantom is betterand has more quality than  than a Convertible? No way.

 

[tolivac]

That Fantom Video-have this at home-a vac store owner gave it to me.Today-have seen so many sad,broken,DIRTY Fantoms in dumpsters-guess the owners weren't so happy with them after all.I'll take just about any BAGGED vacuum over the Fantom anytime.And remember the Fantom "Wildcat" beleive it was-when CU tested it they claimed it blew out the dust you just picked up!And don't forget when you dump the dust bin!How could you recommened such a vac to someone with allegies?Quite the converse-seen some Fantoms-and even Dysons traded in towards Meiles.didn't Mr Dyson have a part in designing the Fantom?One vac store I went to had a used Fantom on their display-A woman came in and said-"I want that vacuum-the one that puts the dirt in the glass container!"so the vac store gladly sold it to her-He was wanting to get rid of it for a long time.was traded in toward a Sharp bagged upright.

 

[gsheen]

Dyson licenced his duel cyclone technology to fantom. Dyson also designed the amway cyclonic vacuum which they tried to steal the idea when he was trying to get the idea into production.


they went to court and eventually it was decided that Amway had to pay James royalties for every machine they sold 


 


As for the old vacuums, thats what most vacuum salesman do, when Kirby knocks at your door and you actually let them in they know that you are only interested because you have a problem with your current vacuum why else would you want a new vacuum if you were happy with your old one.


 


You could sell any vacuum doing this, any new vacuum is going to clean better than one that is not working properly.


 


Its sales thats all

 

[tolivac]

thats what I thought-Mr Dyson did help in designing the Fantom.For vacuum trade ins-not just for Kirbys,but other vacuum brands as well.As I stated-and the vacuum cleaner salesperson selling the bagged vacuum-he gets the bagless one as a trade in-the salesman points out the less messy bag changes as opposed to a dump bin,and filter cleaning.The thing on Amway is interesting.they tried to take advantage of Mr Dyson.Guess thats why he went out on his own-don't blame him.Remember years ago when My Mom used to live in Denton,Texas,went to Denton vacuum to get some parts for her Panasonic vacuum-the Denton Vacuum dealer showed me the dozen or so bagless machines traded in favor of Panasonic,and Nilfisk bagged vacuums.At that time it was Fantoms,Eureka,Hoover bagless machines.At that time that dealer had some really nice Nilfisk "Silver Bullet" canister machines-always wanted one.

 

[gsheen]

It all depends on what you sell as to what you will have traded inn. IE: I sell allot of dysons so we trade inn allot of sebo's and miele's. one of the main reasons people do trade them in is because of the cost of the bags and not always been able to get them when you need them.


 


When I go to our rainbow agent he has loads of traded inn Kirby's and when I go to the Kirby agent he has loads of traded inn rainbows.


Its not an accurate way of seeing if a machine is good or not


 


funny thing is that in SA people really love there dysons , they have only been here officially for 7 years so there are no throwaway ones yet , I wish there were , I cant get enough second hand ones to fill the demand for them. I import used ones from the UK fit new motors, filters and brushes and sell them , they are very expensive new here , about twice the price of a miele not nearly as bad as a Kirby or rainbow ( you could buy 5 dc25's for the price of one rainbow or kirby).

 

[tolivac]

Its true if you want used Kirbys-go to the trade in pile at the Rainbow dealer(But NOT a single Kirby out here-again cheap bagless plastivacs)And you go to the Kirby place for used Rainbows-but the Kirby dealer went out of business in Greenville.The Rainbow dealer has been here for like 30 years.Rainbows are well liked here.