TTI and Oreck

[orecklover]

Since TTI has acquired Oreck, I have noticed a major change. Oreck has made great quality products and now TTI has ruined that. I am thankful as TTI has saved oreck I just wish that they didn't change so many things. Such as the model line up, Oreck used to make the same style machines just with different models and they were the best. Now, TTI only makes a view machines like that and now they have these weird looking things. TTI also did that with Hoover. look at that new oreck steamer thing, what even is that? It's not a traditional oreck machine and that's why I think TTI is ruining the brand. Many people don't want a machine like that from Oreck, the market is basically for the 8 pound upright not a big clunky steamer. Many consumers went to oreck for great quality machines and now TTI has turned it all different. they basically turned oreck into another Hoover lineup. I personally hate TTI.

 

[daknx1994]

No one yet knows what the quality of these new machines will be so we can't even really judge them now can we? TTI has done some pretty good things with their brands. Honestly at my shop, I see more Bisell's, Eureka's and Dyson's more than any other brand. (This is not a brand bashing post by the way), it will only be a matter of time to see how things all play out.

 

[sebo_fan]

Here in the UK I haven't noticed any change. They're still over priced and still upright only with no tools. They may well be far more modern in the States but in Europe they have relatively low domestic sales according to the email I received from Oreck UK when I asked them how long it would take them to get new products on their website.

As a result it is a monopoly on EBay UK where plenty of refurbished and old stock Orecks are going for low prices. Some owners do like to get their investment back but they soon discover that Orecks aren't much of a seller secondhand, no matter what condition they are in. The only one that seems to sell well is the metal fan built Oreck XL commercial.

 

[dysonman1]

I get so many Orecks brought in and given to me. They wind up in the crusher. I have no use for them. They always have a ton of problems from holes in the fan case, to broken fans and housings. I've always said that if Oreck sold them HONESTLY, as a high quality electric broom (which it is), and sold them for $100, I'd be fine with them. But to sell them as a substitute for a real vacuum cleaner is inexcusable.

 

[sptyks]

I totally agree Tom.

 

[bagintheback]

I know I've been pretty defensive about TTI recently, but they've done nothing Oreck hasn't done in the past. Once Oreck bought Regina (excluding the name), many of those products were carried over to their line up. For years they have been importing Chinese products, think air purifiers, and slaping their name on it.


 


I too believe their primary product is the 8-pound upright. But TTI knows there is a market for this. Why else would they have released the Platinum lightweight?  I really doubt the traditional Oreck is going anywhere anytime soon. 


 


We'll see what happens. Oreck has been in a slump for the past few years, and may be on the verge of a new renaissance for the brand.  

 

[tolivac]

Another Oreck ill-blown motors-unlike higher power direct air vacuums-if the Oreck ingests something that jams the fan-the motor burns out.Higher power machines can overcome the jam-or a thermal breaker shuts off the motor. The vac places I know of-blown Oreck motors are common.Another thought-the Oreck looks like a big vacuum-but it isn't-as pointed out its an electric broom with a roller brush.Originally these machines were designed to clean very low pile commercial carpet.They really cannot do well on deep carpets used in homes.To get adequite airflow with an Oreck-the motor has to turn very fast-faster than other machines becuase of its tiny fan.As it does--the tiny motors also just wear out becuase of their higher speeds--and some models NOISE!!!

 

[kirbysthebest]

Not bashing

At one time a Consumer Reports article referred to the Oreck as a Hokey with a motor.

As I have stated before, the Oreck is a fine little machine when your expectations are for what it was designed. Short Pile carpet, regular maintenance clean ups. They will not replace a full power full sized upright no matter how much they advertise so.

They used to marketed mostly for hotels and commercial type carpeting, then with the aging population they discovered that the 8lb convenience was appreciated.

Again as I have stated previously: It is better to vacuum daily with a lightweight, than not at all with a larger machine.

 

[kirbylux77]

Tom

"I've always said that if Oreck sold them HONESTLY, as a high quality electric broom (which it is), and sold them for $100, I'd be fine with them. But to sell them as a substitute for a real vacuum cleaner is inexcusable."

Wow....you never cease to amaze me sometimes! What a hypocrite you are, critcizing an Oreck & saying it should be called an "Electric Broom"! Last time I checked, your Riccar Supralite & Simplicity Freedom 8 lb uprights were built EXACTLY like an Oreck is! Except your machines may be slightly better built & clean slightly better. Maybe YOU should be calling your 8 lb uprights "Electric Brooms" then as well & selling them for $100 dollars. Until you're willing to do so (and we all know that would be a cold day in hell for you to do that), maybe you should quit bashing Oreck. They ARE a REAL vacuum, just that it is built for one particular type of carpeting & enviroment. And after all, David Oreck DID invent the 8 lb upright to begin with, so without him you would have had nothing to copy & improve in the first place!

Rob

 

[fantomfan]

Actually Oreck bought the design from Whirpool.

I'm not taking any sides, but Oreck wasn't the first to make an "8 pound vacuum." It was a thrown out Whirlpool design. I have used Orecks, and then Tacony's design. They are not the same. The motor is larger, and has much more airflow. My Orecks always just glided over the carpet, never really creating any type of seal to the carpet. Tacony's also has a far more aggressive brushroll. Most people I have met are VERY displeased with their Oreck. All of this relating to the wimpy brushroll and small motor. Their adverts were VERY misleading to much of the public. I rarely see Orecks in commercial settings anymore.

 

[vintagerepairer]

As I am not aware of all that has happened with Oreck, I am keen to find out more.

However, if TTI has taken over Oreck, then it makes sense that Oreck were doing something wrong in the first place or else they'd still be in business. So to that end, why would TTI want to carry on with what Oreck were doing? The "value" in these take-overs is almost always in the brand name and not the products.

 

[daknx1994]

No offense Tom, but Simplicity and Riccar are not that much better than Oreck. I have seen numerous Oreck's come in that have bobby pin's or even coins stuck in the fan housing. All that needs done is to remove them and on they go. I have seen more older Oreck's last than I have Tacony products. Also the XL-21 styled machines do have a lot more power than the traditional Oreck's, and I agree the classic models do lack in cleaning ability. I have many customer's who are happy with Oreck's and buy them more over Tacony. I am not trying to bash the brand as they do make some pretty decent products, I am just getting tired of this constant brand bashing that you have been on lately.

 

[kloveland]

I really like my Oreck XL 21. It's a good vacuum. Just remember the performance of a vacuum really depends on the type of flooring that is being vacuumed. Is it a bare floor, commercial grade carpeting or plush carpeting. I'm also very tired of the constant brand bashing. It really gets old after awhile. I have three family members who have various Oreck vacuums and they all like them.

 

[luxlife]

As a former user of the XL-21,

I can tell you that there is a notable difference between any of the 8 pound Orecks and the TOP OF THE LINE Riccar/Simplicity 8 pound machines (AND NO, I'm not bashing). To be fair, I would only compare top models of each brand. Oreck doesn't even offer the option of a steel brushroll. I've had my Simplicity freedom for over 2 months now and I have no regrets because IMHO there's very little to compare. There is nothing "electric broom-ish" about a lightweight upright that seals to the carpet and really digs in to the nap. Reminds me an older upright from days gone by.

 

[sebo_fan]

In my experience, a vacuum cleaner by upright design with a brush bar AND a seal is more harmful to carpet than an upright without that seal in place.

Having a seal doesn't mean ALL manner of dust gets brushed and sucked up and deposited in the bag, but rather the danger of damaging your carpet, regardless of the science of the vacuum and pile movement during cleaning. You might not be able to see it, but a seal on a sole plate threatens a carpet in terms of carpet wear.

 

[luxlife]

Let me put proper perspective on my use of "seal"

The machine actually feels like it has a hold on the carpet nap, not that it's just skimming over the surface the way certain 8 pound uprights do.

 

[sebo_fan]

If its got a "hold" on a carpet nap, I can't think of anything worse!

This is the very problem I find on the Vax Cordless Air. Due to its 3 suction channel Windtunnel tech fitted to the floor head, it jams on carpet pile, removing more carpet fibre than actual dust with dirt in it. The brush roll may well be soft, but the force of suction from the floor head is enough to remove more than just dirt.

 

[kirbysthebest]

seal damages carpet

Pish-Posh.
They would not have received a Gold seal from the Carpet and Rug institute if they damaged carpeting.



http://https//www.carpet-rug.org/CR...proval-Program/Vacuums/Certified-Vacuums.aspx

 

[sebo_fan]

Oh yes the famous misled CRI company. The ones who give the Windsor uprights a different rating to the same SEBO model in a different colour. Dont give me your pish.