TriStar/Compact canister Mom gave me

[kirbyvertibles]

Can you see what the model number is on the bottom?

 

[dartman]

I'll have to look and if it's interesting I can post a picture. I don't know if the serial number plate I posted really helps but I got the typical things I thought would be helpful.

 

[ultralux88]

The model will be on the bottom front, there's a whole thing there cast into the bottom housing with all of that information.


 


I really like the color!

 

[dartman]

Yeah, I always liked it and the crinkle paint finish. Been busy this weekend trying to get my bigger 480 gig ssd I bought during prime day to take a clone of my 128 gig ssd we put in when it was thrown together last year. Motor is supposed to show up the 28th or so so looking forward to slapping it in and seeing how it works when everything is like new again.
I'll have to take a look underneath and see what it says. I do know I like the external power cords to run the powerhead vs the powered hoses the Royals use that always goes bad somewhere. It also appears that the powerhead has a sliding power level switch that either does nothing or just bleeds off some of the suction as doesn't appear to have any mechanical or electrical hookups at all. The Royals in canister and upright the brush can be raised and lowered to work with any carpet you have.

 

[compactc9guy]

keep me posted on your vacuum

 

[suckolux]

It bleeds off suction,Eureka head

 

[compactc9guy]

yes Eureka power head auto adjust and suction relief on top correct thats why i love my Compact C9 select suction level low pile normal shag and voila simple yet effective

 

[dartman]

Motor showed up

It showed up a few days ago packed very securely in a factory style box. Motor is definitely brand new and tight. Machine will be as new or better than new when it's installed but no time till the weekend as I'm going in early every day due to being almost 100 every day this week so far. If anyone needs a new motor for one of these earlier machines I think this is a great deal even with 10 bucks shipping. It came very quickly, much faster than qouted.

 

[compactc9guy]

please keep me posted on the repair and let me know how it turns out best of luck

 

[dartman]

motor installed

Well after waking up a bit figured I'd tear it down and stuff in the new motor. The old one was removed and that's when I noticed something is loose and rattling around inside but haven't tried to figure out exactly how to tear it down and see what happened and if it might be salvageable. New motor is nice and quite and of course has great suction. Power head also is having motor issues and squeals and bogs down from time to time so I lubed the rollers and the parts I could get to on the motor there to see if it helps but it does work. Putting the sole plate back on was a bit of a challenge as it doesn't want to slide over the front locating stops very well and because of that the brush wasn't really making good contact with the carpet. I got that figured out and it now fluffs and grooms the carpet pretty well and really seems to clean. Overall when the brush head isn't squealing it's nice and quiet with a drone from the brush beating the carpet.
It started working a bit better after I took it back down and lubed it up some more too but don't know if it'll settle in or get worse later. Guy who sold this motor has a high power version for 69 plus shipping and only difference is more power and slightly longer but the round housing is the exact same size. I probably would have tried that one if I'd noticed it and another seller was selling it for about same price but free shipping.
Anyways here's some pics

 

[compactc9guy]

awesome !!! so glad you got your compact back up and running that is soo sweet!!question how did u open the compact ?

 

[dartman]

There are 3 screws total that hold this C9 together. 2 in the wheel openings in the body, the back regular wheels, and one up front that also holds the 2 plastic retainers for the powerhead cord where it plugs into the body. It splits exactly in half with a bit of convincing around the rubber bumper to pop it open. Once it's open the motor is right there with all the wiring. Your machine should have been similar I'd think but it looks like the bodies changed a bit over the years. There are a few exploded diagrams online at the big vacuum repair sites around.
It truly is a very simple design with not a lot of complicated parts to deal with. The hard part was figuring out how it came apart but once I saw how it was done I only spend a hour or so swapping out the motor. It fired right up nicely and was pretty quiet. The smaller powerhead gets between tight spots easier and I'll play with it and see if the powerhead motor starts running smoother as it gets run and the oil gets around to the dry parts. I couldn't figure out how to pull it and not sure how to tear down the main motor either but I really want to see whats loose inside it.

 

[compactc9guy]

Wonderfull !

Perfect i actually did find the screws after i ask this question haha . Thanks !
I wanted to know because i had my Compact C9,(same as yours but blue ) vacuum cleaner for a few years .And motor runs strong and smooth just wanted to know and check, if any thing at all needed replacing just to be on the safe side . All i did was change the filters and bags, also a new hose . My power head has a chevron style brush roll and ive also replace the power head motor , whit a genuine compact motor .Now i recommend you replace your power nozzle motor whit a new one before it seizes up on you during use . I f you ever need information on your Compact C9 re badge contact me . I am so glad you got your vacuum working again .PS vid of my compact

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5wZZiAB3mo

 

[compactc9guy]

mine says Canadian Us British patterns yours only says usa wonder if mine is a rare C9 ????

 

[dartman]

I didn't realize you never opened yours up so glad to help with the disassembly instructions. As you found out it's not obvious at first how these things are screwed together but between Google and here everything can be figured out. They also sell new brushes for various versions of the motors cheap but haven't found any bearings for them yet but a new motor fixed that issue. Your lucky yours was still mechanically fine. Like I said maybe that's why we stopped using it later in it's life as it got badly noisy when the bearings went away and I had moved to my own house and eventually bought that 413 Royal I still have that also works great.
Now I want to figure out how to disassemble the motor to see what is bad and what came loose internally. Somebody here ought to get that extra power motor for 69 and see if it fits and works better. It's only about a inch longer and other than that is the same diameter and all that so should be enough room in the case to use it. Your unit is probably like many things in Canada, made locally with US and other parts to fit your market, like the old Mercury/Ford trucks, and I believe some early Valiants that actually were Darts in the USA.

 

[compactc9guy]

my Compact C9

I bought my machine on ebay and made sure i had a good working compact . Shes been trouble free ever since i got her .Now shes been repainted ,a new hose new motor in the power head new tristar compact original NOS replacement hose ,seems longer than my previous one and crush proof ,new exhaust cap ,enviro care papper bag ,cloth bag and motor filter . The motor in mine has never been touch as far as i know shes like factory internally maybe thats why she pulls so much suction and has extremely good air flow no one mess whit it .

 

[dartman]

Great, the powerhead on mine did OK for another 10 minute or so run so maybe the oil started penetrating all the dry areas in the bearings and bushings as it was probably in that closet untouched since 90 when they bought their manufactured home she still lives in. If she hadn't decided to clean out that closet it probably would have sat buried till she leaves us. She just bought a new Shark and now she says it's hard to push but I guess it works great. She had a Orek xl upright and probably a few other plastic garbage vacs she gave up on. She should have fixed up the campact and maybe kept one of the Kirbys she used to have and she would have been set for the rest of her life.
Pretty sure I told her I'd find her a Old Royal or give her one of mine but she got a deal on the Shark at Costco.

 

[compactc9guy]

Yes if shes older cheap vac are easyer to push il stick to my Compact C9 no matter what glad you got yours running again.could you post a pic of the finish product

 

[kirbylux77]

Terry

Congratulations on doing the motor transplant & getting your Compact working again. Yours is definitely a unique color & variant for sure, & will be a conversation piece in your collection. It's also nice to keep vacuums that have family history too. I also personally like the Compact PN that's a re-badged Eureka Roto-Matic with the bleeder valve instead of the TriStar PN they lade mater based on the Eureka PN....it seems to me that the brushroll bristles seem to stick out the bottom plate & groom slightly better than the TriStar PN does. And the straight-suction hose with PN cord on the outside would be more reliable & trouble-free long term than the electric hoses would be. The only thing I would suggest, since Eureka Roto-Matic parts are becoming more scarce as time goes on, is I would pick up a spare powerhead internal hose, just to have on hand when it requires replacement. Over time, those hoses will develop cracks & breaks to the point it will affect the vacuum's performance & need replacement.

It's probably best to just throw out the old motor. Sure, they are easy to repair if you wanted to, but they are so inexpensive to replace you're likely to spend at least half what a new motor in parts to repair the old one. Plus, being from the late 1970's, that motor's electrical components have so much wear & tear on them, it has a relatively short life left if it was able to be successfully repaired.


As for that motor that was a higher power version & slightly longer, that is a Ametek 115923 motor the Ebay seller was also offering. Consider yourself lucky you stuck with the Ametek 116311 motor you bought that is original to Compact/TriStar vacuums. That 115923 motor will NOT fit the Compact vacuums, ONLY the TriStar vacuums. The reason is, when you pulled apart your Compact you would have seen the blower end of your vacuum is part of the magnesium body. If you take off the exhaust diffuser, you will see there is a plastic ring riveted in place that has the lugs to attach the exhaust diffuser. In the early 1980's, Compact was turned into a vac shop brand for a short while & the first red two-speed TriStar was introduced. The first TriStar CXL single speed model after that saw the design of the blower port changed, it was no longer built into the metal body but turned into a plastic blower basket riveted in place that has the ring for the exhaust diffuser built in. Those TriStar CXL & DXL canisters after the red two-speed model can take that Ametek 115923 motor, as the blower basket can be trimmed & modified to take that motor.

However, for people that own a Compact, are in need of replacing the motor & want to upgrade it's performance, there is another option available. Electro Motor, the original Aerus Electrolux motor manufacturer, was the motor used in the TriStar EXL. This was changed with the TriStar MG1, though, when Electro Motor was sold off from Aerus. There are 2 versions of that motor available that will fit perfectly into Compact & TriStar vacuums. The LH0274 on the website linked below is the standard replacement motor for Electrolux 2100 canisters, & pulls 100" waterlift, same as the Ametek 115923 does, & is carried by most vac shop suppliers & found on Ebay quite easily. The LH6500SR motor, though, is a HUGE improvement over the Ametek 116311, 115923 & LH0274 motors, though, & pulls a whopping 117" waterlift. Both of these motors are the same dimensions as the Ametek 116311 motor, & should fit perfectly in their place. When installing the new motor, you would have to cut off the wires from the old motor & put on a couple of 3/16 inch female disconnect terminals to connect the new motor. Also be sure to put some Pliobond on the rubber motor mount to be sure that new, much more powerful motor stays in place once installed.

Rob


https://www.centralvacuummotor.com/vacuums/electrolux.htm

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https://www.amazon.com/Low-VOC-Plio...pID=51yFPKHpjpL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

[compactc9guy]

Yes the motor he put in his Compact is a factory replacement the other one will not work glad he got his unusual Compact C9 working again .