Top Fill Or Bottom Fill Bags?

[twocvbloke]

Well, Electrolux (Proper, as opposed to the splitters) certainly backed the right brands, that's for sure...

I've never gotten any of my vacuum bags to the fill line, it's kind of hard when you have multiple models which use different bags, so they take ages to fill individually, I just change them when they start getting skanky smelling, so I've never had to "deliver a baby" with the Sanitaires to date...

 

[jmurray01]

Oh, on the subject of top fill bags being hard to fit, I've just changed the bag on my 1977 HOOVER Senior Ranger today and have a piece of advise to make it super easy:

ROLL the belt over the lip of the bag, don't try and stretch it over. I did it and couldn't believe I hadn't thought of it before.

 

[alexhoovers94]

With all dew respect jamie, but that is how you are supposed to do it, loll

 

[vintagerepairer]

I have seen many an Electrolux commercial used with a Hoover Junior / Senior paper bag. The main problem I found was that dirt fell right back out onto the floor as unlike the bottom fill pipe on the Junior and Senior cleaners, the design of the Electrolux does not allow the dirt to stay inside the bag.

 

[jmurray01]

I know Alex, but somebody in this thread (I believe) said it was hard to STRETCH the belt over the bag, which insinuates he tried to stretch it over rather than rolling it over.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Ahh right, ok fair enough

 

[rolls_rapide]

It is actually quite easy to roll the bag retainer band (or spring, on the earlier models) over the bag.

I am actually rather taken with "Twocvbloke's" photo of the grey Hoover bag. I seem to remember my gran having grey paper bags for the 1334 Junior.

Which year did they switch to bright yellow paper?

 

[twocvbloke]

I got those bags off ebay (according to my feedback, in May 2010, so 2 years ago), they were sealed in a clear plastic bag (could have been re-packed), so don't know how old they were... :&#92

They were as stiff as card though, dunno how on earth they breathed, and they really did poorly even in a Junior, one of the vacs that they're meant for, but they just clogged right up when I tried them out in the Sanitaire in the pic above... :S

 

[rolls_rapide]

I remember around 1986, seeing genuine yellow hoover bags which were sealed in a clear cellophane wrapper. A year or so later, they launched the blue, white and red packaging which had multiple drawings of suitable machines.

Current HooverCandy are idiots. At least with the old packaging, below, a customer who was unsure of the exact model number could see their machine depicted.

 

[anthony]

top fill

in my opinion the topfill was the best improvement Hoover made to this already exellent machine . my mums old hoover junior from 1963 didnt have a rubber band holding the bag on its got a belt thats a metal spring but changing the bag is easy i just undo the knurled screw on the front take of the whole bag asembly turn it upside down and change the bag my mum was rough with her junior i once found a clothes peb in there how it got past the fan i will never know

 

[ryry_87]

My Hoover u7008 has been converted to take bottom fill bags rather than just the shake out cloth bag at some point, so I use Electrolux C12/Columbus Dixon/Sanitaire style bags. Do a great job and the filtration's better than bog standard hoover ones

 

[pnluxconvlvr]

Top fill HEPA

I converted a bottom fill to a top fill and instead of using the standard "A" bags I buy the Hoover Platinum "Q" bags and after a slight trim with a small knife on both sides of the seal membrane these work great and hold more. I have even fit and had these fill up properly with a little tucking on a bottom fill "C" style outer bag after changing it's tube/bellows to a top fill. Growing up with two Convertible Specails they always spilled dirt from the bottom fill bags back down onto the bottom plate and onto the floor when carrying up and down stairs and were a mess to change and clean the dirt and odor from the huge dirty prophylactic on the fill tube. Never understood the idea behind the design, but it is history.

 

[twocvbloke]

"I use Electrolux C12/Columbus Dixon/Sanitaire style bag

Are they the standard bags or Filteraire bags? The latter tend to be better at filtering, as they have a micro lining on the inside, though the genuine ST bags are much better, but they won't fit in a Hoover...

Also, for those who don't know yet, over here they're called the Type E74, rather than F&G, but I tend to call them the latter...

 

[ryry_87]

they were just bog standard pattern Columbus-Dixon ones, must admit the filtration isn't great but thats my fault for buying cheap bags lol still a hell of a lot better than the shake out bag on its own though

 

[twocvbloke]

You can get the proper type E74 Filteraire bags from Electrolux:

http://shop.electrolux.co.uk/node544.aspx?wscid=21&wssubcid=30&wspartno=9001952002

 

[ryry_87]

funnily enough, despite the ones i've got being a pattern part, they looks completely identical to the genuine ones

 

[twocvbloke]

I think all the F&G/E74 bags all look alike despite their origin, I think the only one that differs is one for another brand (can't recall which) that has a Polypropylene bag attached onto a paper tube, though from what I've been told about them, they're not particularly well-made so best avoided...

I was looking at my set of bags yesterday, and noticed the differences between the Genuine Eureka F&G and the Genuine Electrolux E74 bags, mostly just manufacturer names, addresses and whatnot, but the main difference is on Step 5, the F&G has a bit of a typo on the go ("Tuck into out bags"), but the E74 has it corrected ("Tuck into outer bag")...

 

[hoover1]

bottom fill but dont call me crazy