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Merry Christmas to all. I just got back from my family and found out that my cousin bought his parents a gift certificate for an Oreck. Yes, they forgot how much I know about vacuums (Bless their hearts) So now I suggested that I would cantact you all and ask which model would suit them best. They have hardwood floors and rugs and carpeting. In a previous thread someone had mentioned the Oreck XL=21, is this the best one? Is it better for them to buy it from Oreck or to buy it at a store? She wanted to make sure the it still weights the 8 lbs or so, does the 21 weight the same? I would appreciate the advise...

Thank you,
David
 
Riccar Supralite/Simplicity Freedom
Do you remember the VacWeb forum? I used to post on there before it closed down.
 
the XL21 has a bigger impeller, which i hope equals more airflow. more airflow is what the original models needed. the oreck store now sells two-motor commercial uprights, but not 8lb ones. if it HAS to be 8lbs and HAS to be an Oreck, get the xl-21.
 
The heavyweight lightweight

the XL21 is far and away the very BEST Oreck ever made,I promise you that, with up to 76% deeper carpet cleaning,over 50% more airflow due to a 33% larger fan and a much stiffer roller brush.It is much quieter than the other Orecks,has a 21 year warranty with 21 free annual tune ups and a Buster B with over 50% greater performance.There are many advancements not available on the other Orecks.Give it the 30 day test.
 
Thank you all....

Thank you all for your advise I will give them this advise.

David, do you think I should tell them to buy it at a store or from the company?

David
 
Depending on where they live, I can suggest a store. If they live here in Denver tell them to go to Anderson's Vacuum. And tell them to say I sent them there. ;)
 
The XL-21 is phenomenal! Be sure, however, the dealer gives you the BB-1100 at the $749.99 price point. Some licensees try to give you the lesser Buster B-870 AD and upgrade you to the 1100 for $50.00 more.
 
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. Does the Riccar come with a 21 year warranty, and free annual service for 21 years? Have you test driven the Oreck XL-21? How long has Riccar been in business? What is the warranty on their machine?
 
Consumer Reports:
Oreck XL21
very good in carpet cleaning
excellent in bare floor cleaning
poor in suction
fair in noise
excellent in emissions
Riccar Supralite/Simplicity Freedom
very good in carpet cleaning
excellent in bare floor cleaning
fair in suction
fair in noise
excellent in emissions
 
You can't beat the 21 year warranty and 21 years of free tuneups on the Oreck XL21!
That is an excellent deal!
 
Consumer Reports:
Oreck XL upright
good in carpet cleaning
excellent in bare floor cleaning
poor in suction
fair in noise
excellent in emissions
 
Anyone...

whos pays $700 seriously needs to have a mental health checkup.. lol. I was at Toms store yesterday and a lady brought in an Oreck XL21 that was less than a year old to be repaired. In fact, she said it was the second time in less than a year that it needed to be repaired. The tiny little bearing in the brushroll failed for the second time in a year and it smoked the belt and ruined the brushroll. Since neither the belt or the brushroll are under warranty, she paid $70 to have the Oreck repaired not once, but TWO times in less than one year. Tom calls that little 3.5 motor the "little motor that can't" I can't imagine that anyone would waste their money on one of these. Geez.. for $749 you could have a Miele, or many other quality two motor systems.

Derreck
 
Yes, you're right, you could pay $749. for a Miele, and pay two or three times what you would in parts for another make of vacuum. If the vacuum is less than a year old, and the lady needed a roller brush replaced, that item WOULD have been under warranty had she brought it to an Oreck dealership. Oreck warrantees roller brushes for 1 year. Had she brought it into our store, and the roller brush were out of warranty, the repair would have been $40.00. Bottom line - Tom likes Dysons, he hates Oreck because he is not licensed to sell Oreck. Why would anyone want a gas-guzzling 12 amp motor, when a 3.5 amp motor will do the same job? And as for consumer reports - like I tell my customers - "If Consumer Reports were to tell you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it?" CR is for sheeple who can't make up their own mind and need to be TOLD what brand to purchase. I put little stock in their weighted surveys. They need to put more emphasis on the quality and durability of the machines they are testing. I'd like to see another make of vacuum that has a 21-year warranty, and 21 free tune-ups.
 
Free annual tune-ups

Or are they free? The reason for this rediculously high price is because you are actually paying for these "free" services at the time you buy it. The "free" BB 1100 is also built into the price. The Riccar costs less becuase they didn't add all these "free" items to go with it. My person preferrence is for the Riccar, I just really like the Riccar and Simplicity vacuums. The Oreck XL21 is also a good enough vacuum, and definately the best of all the Orecks, but just beware of what you might first see as "free".
 
Yes, but you still haven't answered my question. How long is the warranty on the Riccar? I'd like to see one still going 21 years from now. Rest assured, they'll be plenty of Orecks. Oh, and if the Riccar doesn't come with a Buster B, what do they give you to do the above-the-floor cleaning? The Riccar is sold by mom-and-pop vac shops who can't sell Orecks. It may be a good vacuum, but I'd like to see someone do a side by side comparison of the two, with durability being a heavy determinant.
 

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