Think I have been converted to Dyson

[richardc1983]

Based on my previous post saying which should I keep the DC07 or the boss. I think I am now a convert to Dyson. Really nice machines to use not impossible to push across carpet and good pick up on the wooden floors and doesnt flick bits everywhere which a lot of uprights do when used on hard floors. Really good to see how all the dirt is contained in the bin rather than making its way to the filters so it just shows they really work. The boss well after 1 use lots of small bits were in the pre filter and it relied on a series of screens to stop that dirt getting to the pre filter however much of it made it past.

Always said before I would never have a dyson given, well this one was given and I think since now Dyson offer a 5 yr warranty on their appliances it gives you confidence to put your trust and money in them. However their motors are so loud coming from Kirby, Henry etc and they heat the room up when your using it lol

The only thing I dont like is having to to use dyson tools. Its hard to use the kirby rug rat turbo brush on the sofa I am having to use one of the metal tubes from the Henry into the hose of the dyson then the rug rat turbo tool on the end of that but it doesnt secure in place it keeps moving about. The suction though nearlly disintegrates the turbo tool lol! Even henry isnt that powerful!

Will still keep the henry for dirtier of jobs as wouldnt like to use the dyson to suck up stuff like plaster dust etc or cleaning the shed out.

Does anyone know if there is an adapter that I can put in the dyson hose that will allow me to use other manufacturer 32mm tools on the end?

 

[vintagerepairer]

No adaptor for the hose

The DC07 uses a 32mm fitting anyway, so most 32mm tools should fit onto the wand/handle, but the actual fitting on the hose end does not go inside the tool as I am sure you know, it sits over the top. So it's just a case of trial & error seeing which 32mm tools are thin enough around the outside edge to fit inside the hose. Having said that, I am curious to know which tools you would like to use on the hose which didn't already come with the DC07.

 

[richardc1983]

The tools were missing and I use a Kirkby turbo brush for the sofas.

 

[vintagerepairer]

I am fairly sure the short extention tube from a Hoover Turbopower will fit into the hose. Do you have any?

 

[baglessball]

Have you tried..

The small black plastic adaptor that allows you to fit tools directly to the hose?

It may not be a tight fit, but should allow you to connect to tool directly to the Dysons hose.

Pattern tool sets can be picked up for Dysons really cheaply fom eBay.

Hope that helps!

 

[richardc1983]

Hi Shaun

I've got spare tools from eBay on the way in the post for the Dyson. £1 each lol.

The Kirkby turbo brush doesn't have a pipe to attach to the Dyson u see it needs a pipe to go into it. So I need some sort of small black pipe that can secure into place in the Dyson and then into the Kirkby turbo brush.

A small piece with 32mm opening at each end would do it.

 

[baglessball]

Hey,

Sorry, I'm typing off my phone and didn't realise I hadn't put Henry! I will try again.

Have you tried the small black adaptor piece that comes with Numatics and allows you to attach the tools directly to the hose?

That works with the Dyson. I think!

 

[vintagerepairer]

The Henry adapter is too narrow unfortunately for the Dyson cuff. I am sure the Hoover Turbopower extention tube will fit, but it needs to be the type with the ridges around the top of it.

 

[vintagerepairer]

As before, do you have any?

 

[richardc1983]

I don't have any no.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Oh that's a pity. I was hoping you might as I cannot be 100% sure it will fit. It would have been worth a try.

 

[kirbylux77]

Richard

Have you got access in the UK to Panasonic hose adapters for their upright vacuums? When my ex Craig had his Dyson DC07, from what I remember of the diameter of the hose, I think that might work for you.

Here is a link to a parts website in Canada which stocks the Panasonic adapter, so you can see what I am talking about.

Good luck....Rob

http://www.tiptopparts.ca/P-PA4901/Adaptor-Panasonic-Upright-To-1-14-Fitall-Plastic--Black.aspx

 

[parwaz786]

Why not use Dyson tools? DC01, Dc02, 3, 4,5, 7, 14 and 15 use 32mm tools, the rest aren't, they use A click fit tool decign

 

[madabouthoovers]

Vintage Repairer is right - the extension tube from the TP2 will fit into the DC07 hose cuff - and its a tight fit as well, just tried it with mine. You can get the Dyson turbo tools on EBay anyway, such as the one below, which I use on my DC07. They are just as good as any other turbo tools and this is the design that Miele use on their own vacs:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYSON-TUR...Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item3a8119a57e

 

[richardc1983]

Well see my other post on the Dyson... It blew its motor today! Gutted

 

[madabouthoovers]

Shame. Is that the Dyson you drove to Stoke to collect?
I've stripped loads of DC07's down, its very easy, and an aftermarket DC07 motor is only about £20 to buy.
The YDK screamer motors fitted in the DC07 and DC14 are the same, but are not the most reliable, and yours has blown the armature windings by the sounds of it - producing a popping sound when on, and an extremely bad electrical burning smell.
I have bought a few like this as spares or repairs, replaced the motor and sold them on again.
DC07's are 2 a penny on EBay, and parts are plentiful, and cheap. They were about the most popular Dyson ever made, and had a very long production run between 2001 and 2008.
They have the same power as the DC14, but the DC14 has more vent channels in the floorhead, so making it easier to push around than the DC07.
Older DC07's were renowned for fragile and brittle plastics snapping off all over them, and also for the cyclones clogging up, necessitating the removal of the top of the cyclone housing for cleaning. They also suffer from torn stretch hoses, and rips in the lower duct hose from the floorhead to the changeover valve.
Clutches are reliable, but the clutch belts stretch over time and eventually start slipping, requiring a new clutch as only one of the belts is replaceable (the one from the clutch to the motor).

 

[richardc1983]

Yes it is. I replaced the cyclone to one of the improved ones to avoid the clogging and no brittle plastics on this one. I've heard the cheap motors overhear easily and trip out a lot?

The motor feels stiff and I could smell this smell recently particularly when turning off and back on straight away... It makes a grinding noise!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Motors only overheat if there is a blockage or the filters are dirty. The high wattage motors always run fairly hot anyway, and I have never had a DC07 trip out as they always ran with clean filters and clean cyclone assemblies.
The DC07 normally smells of electrical burning when switching on for the first few seconds or so, this is the initial arc on the commutator of the high current passing through the brushes producing a large spark. Many high wattage motors do this, and on the DC03 clear you can see the large spark through the casing when switching on, but it should only do this for the split second when the power switch is pressed on.
Does your motor actually turn at all when powered on?
You say the motor is hard to turn - are you turning the spindle with the belt off, or just turning the brushroll?

 

[richardc1983]

When the motor powers down it normally takes 4-5 seconds till you hear it stop now it is stopping within 2 seconds and makes a grinding sound when turned on. Like the bearings have seized.

 

[richardc1983]

Awful smell of burning just tried to get into the casing and I think the parts of the motor are grinding against each other.

The motor is really not smooth to turn at all like its caved in on its self. I took the post filter out and there was a bit of back plastic that looks like its been spat out and charred.

 

[madabouthoovers]

There are vids on Youtube on how to replace a DC07 motor, that's how I learnt, but you will need a torx set to open the casing, so don't force anything. Black plastic under the post motor filter is an indication that the motor has been arcing due to a shorted armature (common failure in Dyson motors) damaging the commutator and brushes and melting through the inner motor casing which is black plastic. Either way, the motor sounds shot.
Pity about that, but if you have a torx set, you can strip it down, and look at the motor to see what caused the failure. I would get another motor if the vac is in otherwise good nick, there are plenty of sellers on EBay selling Dyson motors, and if you follow a logical step by step approach by watching any youtube vid on Dyson DC07 Motor replacement you can get it up and running in no time again.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Here is a pic of one I stripped down a few months ago, for washing and cleaning

 

[madabouthoovers]

Showing the YDK motor with the carbon brushes and holders removed

 

[madabouthoovers]

Also, note that the motor inner housing was white on some models - not all of them were black - my photos show a non clutched model, the DC07 Origin

 

[richardc1983]

Can get a non genuine from a vac store for £36 or a genuine one for £45.

Ebay they are £20 but not sure if they worth the money, av stripped it down and the fan nut was loose at one end and the armature seems all rough.

Dunno what to do?

 

[parwaz786]

Your dyson had too much work, you would be better off with a dc14 which has a five year guarantee and its more durable with no clogging cyclones
i promise that the dc14 is an excellent vacuum

 

[thekirbylover]

with no clogging cyclones

ive had or own practically every Dyson and i can say ive never had the cyclones clog , ive got ones with filters that look like a chimney sweepers face but that's about it, the only reason the filters and cyclones sometimes get like that is due to lack of care, and leaving the bin to get jam packed

 

[alexhoovers94]

But the point is they will clog if somthing gets stuck up near the shroud and then dirt builds up around it, if not cleaned regularly then over time the dust can build up in the cyclones and clog.

 

[thekirbylover]

well the cyclones don't clog dirt gets in the inside of the shroud but that's nothing to worry about