The "Sirena"

[ralph123]

production in North America

Canuck,

I hear there's a pretty good vacuum manufacturer in St James, Missouri that could likely build your product in North America...

 

[Dragonsyt57]

Sirena

I'm still using the Rainbow I sold my mom in 1978,so I'm curious as to how well the Sirena will hold up,also is Sirena associated with Rexair?

 

[mark40511]

I've gotten tired of using

my Sirena. I end up using my Rainbow because it doesn't take as long to set up or clean up at the end. I don't like the dolly on the Sirena. I mean, the machine does what it's supposed to but I do not think the separator is nearly as good as the one on the Rainbow....the fans on my Sirena have more visible dirt on them after a few uses than my 8 year old rainbow does. Additionally, I took the hepa off and I saw visible dirt on that too. So I'm not sure what to think about that because it works exactly like rainbow. I can see someone who does not have a rainbow using this a lot....but since I have both, if I had to do it over again, I would not buy the Sirena (unless I did not have a rainbow). It was a totally unnecessary purchase for me (not typical of me).

This all said, it does do a good job. The hepa is very easy to wash, suction is good, tools are nice and high quality (not as high quality as rainbow) but still high quality.

 

[markhenry]

Sorry to bring up an old thread...


Having decided on a Miele ($1200) with electric brush as recomended by members on this forum... compare to the $4000 price tag of the Rainbow...

The $1200 on the Miele Electrobrush model canister (top end with LED lights on brush etc) comes up to the price of buying a Sirena for $1500 brand new.

The Miele has a 2 year manufacturer warranty but people claim their Miele has lasted in excess of 15 years. The Sirena on other hand has 10 year warranty on motor and 3 years on parts...

So from that perspective i say much better but it may not last 20 years, so though it is warrantied for 10 and miele only 2 the Miele may last longer in the end... However buying bags and HEPA filters over the next 10 years, I could have bought another Sirena for that money Soooo.......

So my simple question is... between a Miele C3 Electro model and Serina... which one will clean the floor better? (Carpet, duat, cat hair, sand, deep cleaning etc)

 

[n0oxy]

they will both clean well

Both machines will clean well, the difference of course is the filtration. When it comes to raw cleaning power, that is suction and airflow, the Miele will beat the Sirena hands down. The raw cleaning power of a water filtration machine, even a rainbow is about 30 years behind current bagged models. But, remember that as long as the machine has enough power to remove the dirt from what you are cleaning, it is doing its job and the water filtration machines have no problem with that. Your Miele will work just fine for your needs, but if you chose to get a Sirena, it would also work. I have a sirena and I really like it, probably going to use it this weekend actually. One thing a Sirena has that the Miele and many other vacuums do not is the ability to be used as a blower. This may or may not matter to you but it may come in handy. The Sirena can also be used to clean up wet spills, although it will not hold near as much as most wet dry vacs. I also have a Miele C1 Olympus and again it's a good machine. So it really comes down to whether you prefer a water filtration machine or a machine that uses bags.
Mike

 

[ultralux88]

The Rainbows with the "Hurricane" motor are much more powerful than the Sirena. I believe the Sirena is using the same motor as the prototype separator type Big Power I have, its labeled Ametek Italia and it looks identical to a Lindhaus (Rotafil) made motor, but single fan and with a separator attached. I think the Ocean Blue used this motor too, if not it was one of the other machines like that.

 

[kirbysthebest]

Sirens will move 90 CFM
Rainbow does about 60 CFM.

 

[n0oxy]

sirena is actually slightly more powerful

First, let me say that both a Rainbow and a Sirena have enough power to clean well. Having said that, the Sirena is slightly more powerful, especially when using the nonelectric hose. One way you can measure the raw power of a vacuum is to attach a turbo brush to it and see how fast it will spin. Granted, this doesn't mean that a vacuum that spins it a bit slower will not be able to clean, but it is an interesting test. The Sirena is able to spin my rug rat turbo brush a bit faster than my Rainbow E2 black. So, the Sirena's raw power is slightly higher. It does use a motor made by the Italian division of Ametek. Both the Rainbow and Sirena spin a turbo brush about as fast as vacuums such as the Electrolux 1205, Compact C6, etc. That's why I said that the cleaning power of these water filtration machines was about 30 or 40 years behind the power of a current model bagged canister. While these tests are interesting, we still need to keep the basic question in mind, does the machine have enough power to remove dirt from the surface being cleaned, and the answer is yes.
Mike

 

[vacuumdevil]

Once you actually use a sirena. You'll go right back to a rainbow or other vacuum of preference.

The quality is pretty horrific. The hose and powerhead are pretty bad the hose is a little too short for the machine and the power head is real cheep feeling.

 

[markhenry]

So what they really need to do, is get with the times and produce a Rainbow that has the airflow of over 120 CFM like a kirby, then the price tag which is the same as a kirby will be justified + you get water filtration.

Might just wait until they wake up and produce a Rainbow model that has a real motor in it then.

 

[tolivac]

There is a new Serena at the vac shop I go to-been there now for a few years-nobody wants it-not even me.I have a few Rainbows-interesting to use on occasion-but heavy,awkward,inconvenient to use-emptying and cleaning the bin.Dump the bin for mine outside-remember what the Rainbow salesman sales----"Gets the dirt from out of your house!"Empty the water bin outside and does just that.Waters the plants out there,too!Prefer other machines.also have a Hyla-got that from the Rainbow dealer here-not even close to the Rainbow in quality.The Rainbow is a higher quality unit.

 

[kirbysthebest]

I don't think anyone will argue that the Sirena is not as refined as the Rainbow. Its also 1/3rd the price, and still has a 10 year Warranty.

In the two years I've owned my Sirena I may have had some criticism, but no complaints.

 

[vacuumdevil]

@tolivac you're absolutely correct! My companie have the same Serena sitting at one of the stores for 2 years. Nobody shows interest in it and of course it would be sold at a very reasonable price if somebody did. And personally I'd rather have a used your E-Series rainbow then a new Serena

 

[tolivac]

Yes,have the E series Rainbows.They do work well,but not so convenient to use.Do like the new Rainbow powernozzle with the "whisker brushes" that turn-dusts baseboards well without having to use the hose.

 

[rainbowguy2016]

@vacuumdevil i didnt think the quality was that bad . Id would trade in my Miele and out of date Rainbow e series in for one . I cant afford a new Rainbow and i dont like used unless it came from a collector . Idk why people think Sirena is so horrible but i can see why you dont like most Vacuum’s like the Sirena because their not a precious Miele or Sebo which neither of them groom very well.

 

[s31463221]

Markhenry

While I don’t own a Sirena, I wouldn’t mind having one. Once upon a time, I even considered being a dealer for them. As I’m sure you’ve figured out based on the comments from others here, they are NOT associated with Rexair (the company that makes Rainbow). My big question is who in the world priced you a Sirena for $1500??? They sell for $889 all day long straight from Sirena’s website! Might want to look into ordering directly from the manufacturer before paying someone nearly double what they’re selling for elsewhere!

http://https//www.sirenavacuum.com

 

[markhenry]

Pretty sure once you convert the US dollar to my dollar and transport... it ends up $1500

 

[kirby519]

The Water trap vacuums are maxed out on air flow. If they increased the air flow to what other vacuums have. You would be sucking the water in the water pan into the motor.

I have used Sears Powermate canister vacuums from the 80's that move more cubic feet of air and have more inches of water lift than todays Rainbows.

@markhenry. You still seem to be conflicted on what to purchase for your home. No matter what you buy it will come at a cost and there will be associated costs for it's upkeep. Every machine you have asked about in the end you find a plausible sounding reason not to go forward with brand X.

Are you interested in purchasing a machine or just want to see how much drama you can create?

 

[markhenry]

Drama and a machine - Please

 

[kirbysthebest]

As they say on Shark Tank

"I'M Out."

 

[s31463221]

I’m confused

Markhenry, according to your profile, you’re in the US.......where does the money conversion and transportation costs come into play? The $889 is in USD, and Sirena ships them for free if ordered from them......

 

[n0oxy]

quality of Sirena

Personally I have no problem with the quality of the Sirena, actually going to use it today. We had a bit of snow earlier this week and I want to clean the salt off of my apartment stairs, also using my ultrasonic humidifiers has left the furniture dusty, going to use the dusting brush on everything. I think the Sirena cleans as well as the rainbow, and the nonelectric hose will swivel, something the rainbow's hose will not do. The Sirena's basin is also easier to wash because it doesn't have a roof on it like the Rainbow's basin does.
Mike

 

[mark40511]

It's not easier to clean

(for me) the rainbow basin has that roof, but you can get your hands in it easily anyway. U have a huge area under the sirena that gets exposed to water spashing up, and that rubber area is a total pain to clean. Whatever material it is dirt sticks to it...whatever that rubber material is around the separator of the rainbow hardly anything sticks to that....It takes me about 5 extra minutes to put my Sirena away than it does my Rainbow.. I can't put either of them away without cleaning everything and wiping it down. If anyone wants to buy my Sirena, let me know. It's clean/shiny and stored away.

 

[n0oxy]

gave my Sirena a good work out today

Actually took out the Sirena today and used it to clean up the salt that remained on my floor and on my apartment stairs, we had a bit of snow this week. I used the sidewinder hard floor brush, that tool is awesome, not only can you clean much faster with it, but it works great on stairs and along edges. There was quite a bit on the stairs. Definitely got my exercise for the day. I was able to clean out the basin in much less time, since there is no roof on it, the left over dirt was at the bottom of the basin, much easier to wash out. I did check the area where the separator was, a bit of dirt there but a quick clean with a paper towel removed it. Definitely an awesome machine.
Mike

 

[vacuumdevil]

@n0oxy when you refer to "sidewinder" is that a tool that it came with? The one I have at my store as a really basic copy of a rainbow bare floor tool. Did they update it with a double swivel made by Wessel?

 

[n0oxy]

sidewinder

No, this is not a tool that came with it, it's a tool I bought separately and it's awesome, you can clean a room so much faster than with the regular types of floor brushes, and they're great on stairs. I don't mind pairing up a vacuum with other attachments than what is included if it will work better. Here is a video that shows how the sidewinder works.
Mike[this post was last edited: 1/21/2018-09:22]

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PgzcXhVZes

 

[n0oxy]

purchasing the sidewinder hard floor tool

Here is a link where this can be purchased, as I said, this is now my favorite hard floor tool other than the Centec CT10 which is a power nozzle designed for hard floors. Apparently this sidewinder tool is commonly used in commercial environments but it's great for houses or apartments as well. This will fit all vacuums with a standard hose end.
Mike

http://www.centecsystems.com/sidewinder-15-hard-floor-tool-horsehair-1-25/

 

[n0oxy]

other sidewinder tools

Here are the links for the other sidewinder tools that will fit the Sirena and other vacuums with a standard hose end. They will fit Miele and Sebo machines by using an adapter, I already included the hard floor brush in the last post so I will skip that one.
First is the 15 inch carpet tool, I'm actually not sure how well this would work, when cleaning carpet, you need a power nozzle with a spinning brush.
http://www.centecsystems.com/sidewinder-15-381mm-carpet-tool-1-25-32mm-neck/
Then there is the 8 inch dusting brush, I use this to dust my ceiling fan blades and my cabinets, with most dusting brushes, you have to hold the hose at an awkward angle for it to work, with this one, the hose can remain flat, I would have to vote for this as the best dusting brush I have used.
http://www.centecsystems.com/sidewinder-8-203mm-dusting-brush-natural-fill-1-25-32mm/
And finally there is the 8 inch upholstery tool.
http://www.centecsystems.com/sidewinder-8-293mm-carpet-upholstery-tool-1-25-32mm/
Mike