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what would you guys think if kirby came out with a new vacuum style all together? kind of like a bissle or hoover? like a total rip off of another vacuum and they would start manufacturing the sentria and this new style vacuum? would you still buy it? or would you just not buy it because it is a rip off of another vacuum or its not really a kirby? now another thought of the new kirby is, what if they make a kirby that is afordable for the modern person. like a $450 vacuum. they could sell an afordable one and a higher priced one that lasts longer and is better quality.
 
Affordability...

Well Kirby's view point on the matter of money is they build a their product to a standard not to a price. They also feel that rather than having multiple models out, they would rather put their money toward research and development to make their next model even better rather than running different lines creating several different models sold simultaneously. I agree that a brand new Kirby is more expensive than it needs to be, but when you think of it in terms of that one machine will last a life time and the fact that it comes with a life time rebuild agreement, I guess that price isn't so bad.
 
Price of the Kirby or any other high end vacuum cleaner-think of the cost of your home furnishings the vacuum is helping you take care of--now the carpets alone in your home would cost MORE than a Kirby or other high end vac to replace.and then the other parts of the home the vacuum helps you take care of--furniture,your car,drapes and curtains,blinds,and so on.When you think of it-the vacuum cleaner has got to be one of the most commonly used home care tools.
 
Kirby all the way

Hi Rex You are so right i am a Kirby man ALL the way. The other day my sons friend came in who is a18 year old boy says to my wife wow this new rug really looks nice she said thank you but this is a 20 year old rug cleaned with a Kirby G4 Doug
 
Guess us Kirby guys have to stick together-however,I do like other vacuums besides Kirby.Kirbys do their job well.And they are built to last.And when I use my Kirby as a "Monster Vac" with my NSS M1-did a bag autopsy and found all kinds of very fine stuff I never picked up before.Kirby "Filtrete-HEPA" style bags fit the M1.If someone here has an M1 vac-Shop Vac 5Gal paper bags will fit-you just have to push harder to get them on the M1 bag feed horn.Use the drywall yellow bags for best filtering.At present using the Kirby Filtrete bags-But remember--the Kirby does well by itself,too!Sometime when I am not working OT at work-going to try the Kirby in the hose mode connected to the M1.
 
I love all things Kirby, but the price for a new one is really high. If you know someone who's a distributor, they might sell you one for a little over cost, which is probably no more than $750 on the high end. I'm leaning more towards the $500-600 range. When I sold them back in '94(ish), my office agreed on a price to sell one to someone I knew for $750, and it included the shampooer, zip brush and turbo accessory kit (sander/massager). They retailed that bundle for $1,400 back then.

A friend of mine had a Filter Queen distributorship for years, and she told me her cost on them was around $500.

I spoke with the national Assistant Sales Manager for Hyla-USA about distributorship a while back. He told me the entry price is at least 5 machines for $785 each plus shipping, and the price goes down by volume.

I could probably get the Hyla dealer (3 hours away from me in MD) to sell me one for $1,000 because he knows I talked to the national ASM about pricing. Otherwise, he retails them for $2,495. I'm waiting for a redesign with a brushless motor (like Rainbow) before I buy one. I can't find a definite answer about that, even from the national ASM. I believe the Hyla motor has brushes. Can anyone confirm?

I did NOT have such luck with the Rainbow reps. I offered them $1,000 cash for a new one, and they turned me down. So, we're happily content with our E2 Gold that I found for $45. It needed a power switch, HEPA filter and a new cord (still have to order the cord and filter).
 
The bag is really ugly in my opinion. Hopefully 2014 will present a better looking Kirby. I also don't like the fact that the brushroll indicator light is on the right side of the nozzle (looking from the back of the machine). I like it better on the left side like on the G4 and G3.
 
I agree

that it's NOT the best color combination. Those brown, blue and white circles and the brown and blue manual could have been much better. Still - they are great machines I'm sure.
 
Bag

I miss the big puffiness of the older Kirby outer bags. This one looks even smaller than my Ultimate G Diamond.
 
Hello, has any of you ever wondered why kirby doen't design a better floor tool? I've always been disappointed with kirby floor tools, did any of you noticed that they don't clean hard floors very well and that are too small if compared to the widt of the power head, being a Kirby a vacuum cleaner for homes of certain dimensions? I had to buy ( for very little, about 20 euro, a standard floor tool with front and rear brush bristles, large air path so it doesnt continously clog with objects and hairs etc and two rubber wheels that allow it to glide perfectly on hard floors and also on area rugs or carpet.i think that a cleaner of that price would deserve a much better attachment, more simple and better working! Your opinions? Greetings, Tommy
 
I love the old Kirby's and would buy the new one in an instant, but a just can't get past that cheap plastic hose and the cheap plastic on the tools they are using now.
 
I can go along with the better hard floor tool,as well.GET RID of that COMBO thing Kirby now uses.For the price of the machine they could throw in a nice bare floor tool and carpet surface tool.And-yes,the toolkit needs redoing.LESS PLASTIC,PLEASE!!We are talking about a premium,DTD cleaning system that can cost upwards of $2000.
 
I just bought my mom the new chainlink Sentria II, she loves the colors... Though, I argued with her and argued, cause I just rebuilt her G3 that she has, she said she had to have the new one... A couple days later she calls me and says I can have it back if I wanna get my money back cause there are really no noticeable differences between the g3 and sentria II...... ... I nearly hung up.. All I said was 'AH DUH!'... I told her she was stuck with it.. LOL She still likes the machine.. just was thinking there would be a lot of changes... to her, the new thinner outter bags that support the new hepa bags, different transmission, pivot, carry handle on the bag holder, emtor and more poly body don't count as significant changes..

Oh well.. LOL I hope Kirby makes a self propelled vacuum in a similar design to the royal powercast... That would be a modern update!
 
Kirby-drather they stick with their tradational fan first design-its more efficient than the Royal Powercast-and LIGHTER-to power propel the Powercast-would envision a truck transmission to move it-and a forklift to lift and carry it.The Powercast failed becuase it was TOO heavy.Yes,heavier than any of the G series Kirbys.
 
It's Obvious what their doing here.

Sure, only the color changed, but ask yourself, why? Why only that?
A multi-million dollar company with top-notch engineers and designers arn''t going to "WOW" you with every release. They do this on purpose. It's quite obvious what Kirby is doing here. The Sentria II is nearly a distraction for something that is going to blow your minds. Yes, some psychology was involved here.
 

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