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1979 Wellworth Water Guard

I just got this 1979 Kohler Wellworth Water Guard this past Saturday for $10. I rebuilt it, and it flushes great. Even for being an early water saver, this still flushes very good.

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very old toilet

kj,

The toilet you saw was probably something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-191...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

It was just a hopper that was attached to the plumbing. The trap was built into the soil pipe a distance below the toilet. They were made by Joseph Vogal. They were intended for unheated buildings. The trap was in the pipe and would be buried below the frost line. The tank stayed empty until someone sat on the seat and it would start to fill. When you got off the seat, a valve would flush the tank into the bowl and at the same time the water supply was cut off and all the water piping above the frost line would drain into the ground until the next use. That was a very rare find! I've seen a few of them on Ebay in better shape than the one I linked above.
Google search: Vogal toilet and you'll find more of them.
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/16528-100-y-o-j-a-vogel-frost-free-toilet
 
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K of K!

I'm glad to see you here! I'm subscribed to you on YT, and I very much enjoy your videos. I'm TheUniversalDave1 on YT.
 
I have a little potty talk

This last weekend I had to replace the toilet in the upstairs bathroom because my Mom was having a hard time getting up,  She's 81, so I replaced it with a new American Standard Series 4 chair height  Boy is this thing a flusher.  


 


Anyway, I put the old one, A 1974 American Standard 5 gal per flush outside by the garage, thinking if someone in the area with a vintage house could use it, or since it was in good condition I may take it to the re-store.


 


Last night when I came home, I saw that someone decided to have a little fun during the day, and the toilet was smashed to bits.  It was hauled away in the trash pick-up this morning. 


 


 
 
That's terrible

If I had seen the toilet, I would have snapped it up for my collection. Not destroy it for no reason.

I'm going to ask for a black Kohler Wellworth brand new for Christmas. I love black toilets, but they're just so darn expensive.

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Well to say I don't collect toilets (and don't want to, not hating though!) this has been an interesting read :)
 
Kinda neat-I am not a "potty" collector either.But sort of neat nonetheless.Do like the 250W Sylvania Mercury bulb warm up end shot.Have a bulb just like that.Love watching it warmup when started!Don't have enough room for toilets.
 
Would this make me a toilet collector since I am keeping the 7 or 5 gal water hogs in my home?I don't like the lo flo toilets-folks that have them keep a plunger by them.Beleive mine are American Standard white.
 
I got a

1959 Kohler Wellworth at the Restore yesterday for only $20. It was one of the nastiest toilets I've ever bought, and it took me all afternoon to clean it up. It still needs some work, the priming jets are badly clogged with mineral buildup, but some muriatic acid should fix that. Until then, it's s good display piece. The colour is Peachblow.



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the yellow,pink and that Black Kohler one are actually beautiful!Oh yes-few years back since the start of "Will It Blend" there was a series of YouTube videos of "Will It Flush"Have you seen these-the person flushes various objects and foods down his toilets.Hate to see his sewer bills!At my sisters house she has a dark colored toilet sort of like the black one shown.Trying to remember if it was back or a very dark green.Watching it work was kinda cool.The fellow doing the flush videos should install a "Muffon Monster" sewage waste shredder after his toilets.Look up their website-they grind up all kinds of stuff that is flushed dwon sewage lines!Think of the Muffon monster as asort of large disposer.
 
"I don't like the lo flo toilets-folks that have them keep a plunger by them."

I agree completely. I have a total obomination made by Universal Rundle in my apartment bathroom. I guess the engineers that designed the blasted thing thought they were being clever, but the odd shapes and creases they built into the bowl make it plunger proof since no plunger I've ever seen can form a seal against it. When I do end up with a clog, the only thing the pluger does is launch filthy water back at me with force. So instead I keep a container in the bathroom that I fill in the tub and pour down the toilet. That usually works pretty well, but not always. So far the record is 157 gallons for a single clog that would have been cleared easily if a plunger could have been used.
 
D-jones,

Believe it or not, Universal Rundle used to be a high class name back in the 50's. I have a 1959 Universal Rundle in my collection. See my videos on YT. It can flush 24 golf balls. Of course the brand new toilets are going to flush incredibly well compared to the early lo-flos. Just look at the new Kohlers. The Aquapiston is a very good flush engine.
 
To verify what was said in the above post about the new Kohler toilets working well, I installed a 1.28 GPF Kohler "Cimarron" with the "AquaPiston" flush valve in my main bathroom a few months ago. I haven't had a single problem with it. No clogs, no issues with bowl wash, no "remnants".

It's made of VERY high quality porcelain. Not flimsy at all like some of the other newer models and brands on the shelf.
 
Kohler's are awesome. I always recommend them on the plumbing forum. I also like to collect them. The Cimarron with Aquapiston was a very wise choice - it is an excellent toilet. I just found a 1989 Kohler Wellworth on CL a few days ago for $20. I gave it the spa treatment, and it is literally like new. Not a scratch on it.

Left to right - 2003 Kohler Wellworth, 1989 Kohler Wellworth, 1959 Kohler Wellworth.

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Lo-flow

I heard on a home improvement TV show that the toilet makers weren't ready when water usage restrictions went into effect, but now the toilets work well. The toilet in my house 12 years ago when I moved in is bad. When I take a bath, I don't drain he tub, because I'll be dipping a bucket into it for flush assistance. AND the plunger has to stay right there too.

Since it seems to get worse over time, I wonder if over time I've gotten looser sphincter muscles and therefore larger poos.

My sister had a toilet in her yard one summer - her project was chipping the calcification built up on the drainage parts. We have very hard water here. Anyway, she thought the toilet was too 'good' to get rid of. I think she finally got a new one anyway.

This thread's inspired me to go to the restore.
 

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