sebo_fan
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Caught this on You Tube - is this really true??
The Dyson That Picks Up Water???
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dysonman1
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The cyclones CAN spin water from the airflow. However, since the bin empties from the bottom, once you turn off the machine to remove the bin, water leaks all over the place.
madabouthoovers
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Ah, but the seal at the bottom of the bin on the DC07 is not watertight and some will leak out. If any gets past the motor seals it will enter the motor and that will be that - one blown motor. Its never a good idea to mix electricity with water - especially in the UK where we use 240V. Not sure if the US voltage can kill but bear in mind that water conducts electricity. Unless the vac is designed to pick up water, then don't do it!
super-sweeper
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What makes it better to do with a DC04?
Either way it's picking up water, Dysons are alot better for that than actual cleaning!
(Ducks and Runs)
Either way it's picking up water, Dysons are alot better for that than actual cleaning!
(Ducks and Runs)
super-sweeper
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"Dyson a Good vacuum"
Perhaps in your opinion...
Wouldn't let such a thing roam my carpets...
Perhaps in your opinion...
Wouldn't let such a thing roam my carpets...
super-sweeper
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I've tried Dyson before,
DC07, DC17 AND DC14, All a failure for cleaning in my opinion. I actually put both a DC07 and DC14 in a test against my FAVORITE bag-less, FANTOM. Guess which won? Fantom.
DC07, DC17 AND DC14, All a failure for cleaning in my opinion. I actually put both a DC07 and DC14 in a test against my FAVORITE bag-less, FANTOM. Guess which won? Fantom.
madabouthoovers
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Mr Parwaz, its not gonna work preaching to the Americans about Dysons - most of them hate the sight of them. Dyson destroyed the bagged vac market and many Americans still like their bagged vacs - especially their Kirbys.
Don't forget that Dyson is a UK company, and many Americans are VERY patriotic, supporting American companies like Riccar, Simplicity, Maytag, and Kirby - just as we in the UK support Numatic and Dyson and make them so popular here. Its a pity that Dyson shipped all production to the Far East - at least Numatic still use UK staff to manufacture their vacs.
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Don't forget that Dyson is a UK company, and many Americans are VERY patriotic, supporting American companies like Riccar, Simplicity, Maytag, and Kirby - just as we in the UK support Numatic and Dyson and make them so popular here. Its a pity that Dyson shipped all production to the Far East - at least Numatic still use UK staff to manufacture their vacs.
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singingrainbow
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Dyson may not be my favorite brand, but I do appreciate them and I own several. Everyone seems to have strong opinions on dysons but I consider myself somewhat more neutral. They have their ups and downs, just like every other vacuum cleaner made in history.
As for the whole water pick up thing, I just don't think it's a good idea period. But I can see how a dc04 would be better for this as there would not be a chance of the water leaking into the motor from the bottom of the bin.
Scott
As for the whole water pick up thing, I just don't think it's a good idea period. But I can see how a dc04 would be better for this as there would not be a chance of the water leaking into the motor from the bottom of the bin.
Scott
suckolux
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Well put
Dyson and water
Any vacuum not designed for water pick up , should not be used that way. Water will get by cyclones. In the U.S. when using a cleaner for wet pick up equipment is grounded or certified double insulated. All cleaners say in the do's and don't say don't pick up water.
Any vacuum not designed for water pick up , should not be used that way. Water will get by cyclones. In the U.S. when using a cleaner for wet pick up equipment is grounded or certified double insulated. All cleaners say in the do's and don't say don't pick up water.
super-sweeper
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Not every cleaner...
Ever find it odd Kirby instructs NOT to run the cleaner out-doors our on wet surfaces, but it's exactly what you do with the Rug Renovator? Kirby aren't grounded, for that matter.
some Rainbows didn't come with grounding either. I used to have an E Series which wasn't grounded.
Ever find it odd Kirby instructs NOT to run the cleaner out-doors our on wet surfaces, but it's exactly what you do with the Rug Renovator? Kirby aren't grounded, for that matter.
some Rainbows didn't come with grounding either. I used to have an E Series which wasn't grounded.
dustin
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I have used several dysons, and haven't been terribly impressed with any of them, they all felt flimsy and fragile, but I don't think any vacuum should be subjected to that unless it was purpose-made to pick up water.
sebo_fan
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Thank you for bringing the topic back from Dyson Vs the rest of the brand names, Dustin.
I'm well aware that dry vacuums and water don't mix. Cue the year when our Miele S4 Ecoline got broken when someone sucked up a little ice from the carpet by the front door at Xmas time...
I was just amazed by the video. If a cyclonic vacuum could flush out water through open cyclones, it could effectively clean the system throughout whilst in use.
I'm well aware that dry vacuums and water don't mix. Cue the year when our Miele S4 Ecoline got broken when someone sucked up a little ice from the carpet by the front door at Xmas time...
I was just amazed by the video. If a cyclonic vacuum could flush out water through open cyclones, it could effectively clean the system throughout whilst in use.
man114
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Rainbow E series can pick up water, the seperator keeps it out of the motor. Only the most recent electric hoses are designed for it otherwise you have to use the non electric hose on older models, like when using the aquamate.
Someone does the above test with the Fantom and it survived admirably. I think the issue here is the bins seal from the bottom and the vac isn't grounded.
Someone does the above test with the Fantom and it survived admirably. I think the issue here is the bins seal from the bottom and the vac isn't grounded.
jade_angel
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I've heard tell of folks using Filter Queens for small amounts of water, too, though I've never tried it myself (and wouldn't want to). Though, when I was a kid, every now and again some snow or slush would get sucked into my parents' FQ, and it never seemed to hurt anything. I imagine the dirt soaked up most of it and the cyclone kept the rest out of the motor.
Then, obviously, there's things like the Water Matic and Silver King that are designed for some wet pickup.
Then, obviously, there's things like the Water Matic and Silver King that are designed for some wet pickup.
super-sweeper
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PICK up water?
That Fantom was SUBMERGED in water, Kept on working though! Actually PUMPING Water out of the filter! Those were quality machines!
That Fantom was SUBMERGED in water, Kept on working though! Actually PUMPING Water out of the filter! Those were quality machines!
beko1987
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I've used a (utterly nackered) DC04 to vac up some paint out of a can for reasons I cant quite remember
Worked very well, if I had an urgent spillage I wouldnt hesitate to grab a dyson, even if it would kill it. Infact if I do major diy work I use my DC02 as it takes water too (only tried a small quantity) and paint, and sanding dust, and rubble with ease. And I can tip it out.
I have a large numatic now, and el cheapo hepaflo bags which last until their stuffed. Much cleaner.
Worked very well, if I had an urgent spillage I wouldnt hesitate to grab a dyson, even if it would kill it. Infact if I do major diy work I use my DC02 as it takes water too (only tried a small quantity) and paint, and sanding dust, and rubble with ease. And I can tip it out.
I have a large numatic now, and el cheapo hepaflo bags which last until their stuffed. Much cleaner.
Grounded and Double insulated
Machines such as Rainbow and other cleaners that deal with water are Double insulated or Grounded . It is required by law in the U.S. . If someone uses one that is not that way can not sue for injury from electrical problems with their cleaner. You are fools if you think it's right to do it.
Machines such as Rainbow and other cleaners that deal with water are Double insulated or Grounded . It is required by law in the U.S. . If someone uses one that is not that way can not sue for injury from electrical problems with their cleaner. You are fools if you think it's right to do it.
super-sweeper
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Required by Law...
Than explain that 2 prong Rainbow? Perhaps a Canadian Model?
It wasn't always that way, Think of all those old non-ground, non-polarized machines from Decades Past!
I'm having trouble decoding the rest of your thread, Are we Fools to use a non-grounded cleaner for wet applications, or sue over electrical stupidity?
Than explain that 2 prong Rainbow? Perhaps a Canadian Model?
It wasn't always that way, Think of all those old non-ground, non-polarized machines from Decades Past!
I'm having trouble decoding the rest of your thread, Are we Fools to use a non-grounded cleaner for wet applications, or sue over electrical stupidity?
jade_angel
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If it's double-insulated I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to be grounded. I know I've seen some Craftsman wet-dry vacs marked "double insulated" with two-prong cords. (In the US, at least. This is all different in elsewhere; I don't know those rules.) I'd imagine Rainbows are similar.
man114
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Rainbows are double insulated. Even before that variations of the design have been around over 50 years. Loads have been sold. Don't hear of issues. Our local office has sold over 30k in the last 25 years.
In regards to Fantom, I picked up a Cyclone Xt that had been used for water, I dried it, sold it and this was years ago and the thing still works.
In regards to Fantom, I picked up a Cyclone Xt that had been used for water, I dried it, sold it and this was years ago and the thing still works.
eurekafansquid
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yayaayayayayay dysons can suck water yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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