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You didn't really make clear what, specifically, you 'disagree' with. First, cleaning performance data matters, not suction, airflow etc. alone. I suggest you look at more than one poor internet source to learn more. Secondly, the sources you cited wonderfully evidence of a lack of understanding of even basic science, that again, is out there for you to look at. There was even a thread on this very forum recently that went through the science and exposed the shocking ignorance too frequently displayed, such as the remedial errors of using vane anemometers to measure airflow in non-uniform flows, and failure to appreciate why this doesn't matter for carpet cleaning anyway. It's all out there for you if you really care...
 
You didn't really make clear what, specifically, you 'disagree' with. First, cleaning performance data matters, not suction, airflow etc. alone. I suggest you look at more than one poor internet source to learn more. Secondly, the sources you cited wonderfully evidence of a lack of understanding of even basic science, that again, is out there for you to look at. There was even a thread on this very forum recently that went through the science and exposed the shocking ignorance too frequently displayed, such as the remedial errors of using vane anemometers to measure airflow in non-uniform flows, and failure to appreciate why this doesn't matter for carpet cleaning anyway. It's all out there for you if you really care...
I don't really give a rodents rear end about "cleaning data". All I know is that those nozzles cannot clean pet hair from our area rugs. That makes them useless in my home with my rugs and my pets with a desert back yard. Whatever data you will drege up means nothing if the darn thing cannot clean my rugs, and they can't. Even some Wessel-Werk and Miele power nozzles leave the hair on those rugs. Our big Kirby struggles on one of them. But a Lindhaus power nozzle used with an Aria canister does the job. One pass and the hair is gone. Same with a 43 year old Kenmore with a freshly rebuilt Powermate and a modern Ametek motor. Cleans great. Use a HEPA dust bag from Numatic and the bag chamber stays spotless. No dust anywhere. A Hoover Hushtone has no problem cleaning those rugs either. That Hushtone is a remarkable vacuum to use and especially so when you see the price. But there isn't a stick vac made that can clean those rugs.
 
I do believe your personal experiences. However, not a single manufacturer I'm aware of engineers for you personally, and since everyone's use is different, they engineer for other things that are more widely applicable to the majority. Objective cleaning performance across all floor types to formal industry standards is usually the goal for the better manufacturers. This is because this is applicable to almost everyone. For trash manufacturers, they're happy with copying the work of the superior to achieve a lower but excusable percentage of the performance and practicality but at a lower price to undercut, regressively, at the expense of the 'suckers' buying.
But there isn't a stick vac made that can clean those rugs.
On this factual point, I've seen no reputable evidence to support it, so have no reason to believe it. You're welcome to provide some to support the position.
 
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Can we ban these narcissists yet? All it's doing is dragging the quality of the site down.
I mean, your subjective and unfriendly opinion is at odds with reality. My recent Dyson V16 Piston thread is the most viewed on the entire history of this forum. By far! And I'm getting DMs about it from lurkers who are seemingly too frightened to speak freely on here for fear of hostile judgement by nasty bullies who won't let you sit at their table if you're not part of the 'right' club. What we need is more diversity and interesting technology on here and less playground name calling when someone makes an irrefutible point that someone else doesn't like and has no defence against.
 
I mean, your subjective and unfriendly opinion is at odds with reality. My recent Dyson V16 Piston thread is the most viewed on the entire history of this forum. By far! And I'm getting DMs about it from lurkers who are seemingly too frightened to speak freely on here for fear of hostile judgement by nasty bullies who won't let you sit at their table if you're not part of the 'right' club. What we need is more diversity and interesting technology on here and less playground name calling when someone makes an irrefutible point that someone else doesn't like and has no defence against.
Look at our back and fourth. You disparage everything anyone says that contradicts your position. You offer a lot of techno gobbledegook but it doesn't match our experience with our own vacuums in our own homes. No one wants to engage because you are so arrogant and condescending towards us. You know it all and everyone else knows nothing. It gets old. I bet you have never used a fraction of the vacuums most of us on this site have in our collections and use regularly. How many Lindhaus, Sebo, Miele, Kenmore, Hoover, old Eureka ( before the sale to Midea ). Sanitaire, Swedish or American Electrolux, Patriot, Panasonic, Tristar or Samsung vacuums have you used or even tested? Ever used any of the amazing 100 volt power nozzle canister vacuums from Japan? Or any of their stick vacs that are not sold outside of Japan? Do you even know what they are? There is a whole different universe of vacuums in Japan, innovative stuff you do not see anywhere else in the world. Ever used a Lux D820 with the Ze3 power nozzle? Do you even know what one is? You have people here who have made careers in the vacuum industry and you tell them they know nothing. You think you are something special and you are, but not in the way you imagine.
 
Look at our back and fourth. You disparage everything anyone says that contradicts your position.
I disparage anything someone says on factual matters that they're asked to defend, but fail to, that contradicts evidence already available they've ignored. Important distinction.

You offer a lot of techno gobbledegook but it doesn't match our experience with our own vacuums in our own homes.
These are facts distinct from subjective opinions and 'experiences' which may be apples to oranges. Yes, some of the facts are hard to understand, but that's not my problem. Reality is difficult to understand at times.
No one wants to engage because you are so arrogant and condescending towards us.
This is just name calling. I've never condescended an individual. I have snapped back at hostility and pointed out errors and supported with evidence. That's not condescension.

You know it all and everyone else knows nothing.
This is simply a false statement. There is plenty of evidence out there of my highlighting my knowledge limitations and learning from others. In those cases, I don't, for example, make arrogant factual claims which are completely false, such as Dyson stole Panasonic's conical brush bar idea, or Dyson claim their lifetime filters need to be replaced to keep working etc. I don't go out of my way to attack people—something you appear to not have noticed happen to me here. Have you not seen the level of playground bullying? What I'm seeing is people don't like being challenged on factual matters they are wrong about and on which there is evidence bearing. They've got too used to being surrounded by yes men that are part of the same club. Some when someone comes along who knows better and cares about what's true, simply pointing this out results in hypersensitive offense taking. If I know something to be true and can defend it, you're damned right it'll come across as though I know so. I'm not rude to people for being wrong, but I don't take unjustified abuse lightly.
How many Lindhaus, Sebo, Miele, Kenmore, Hoover, old Eureka ( before the sale to Midea ). Sanitaire, Swedish or American Electrolux, Patriot, Panasonic, Tristar or Samsung vacuums have you used or even tested?
My channel has reviews of many machines from that list of manufacturers (you could have fact checked this). Their strengths and weaknesses were fairly pointed out.

Or any of their stick vacs that are not sold outside of Japan? Do you even know what they are? There is a whole different universe of vacuums in Japan, innovative stuff you do not see anywhere else in the world. Ever used a Lux D820 with the Ze3 power nozzle? Do you even know what one is? You have people here who have made careers in the vacuum industry and you tell them they know nothing.
I don't see how this relates to any of the topics or factual claims that have been made. Whenever you've been asked to provide a dot of evidence to support this wider experience you claim to have, you've failed to present it. Every time. As such, the claims have been dismissed. This makes this repertoire of knowledge you claim to rely on seem weak.

You think you are something special and you are, but not in the way you imagine.
And this mischaracterisation just cements my above responses. It simply reveals your interpretation of my contributions here, and it's not how others who aren't at odds with reality see me. I receive DMs thanking me for my contributions here and on YT. I've never mentioned that, but it's simply the evidence that shows how at odds with reality my haters are. Those that are shown to be wrong and get corrected claim I'm arrogant. Those in need of support they otherwise can't find here and find me helpful claim I'm an asset. I'll leave people to draw their own conclusions from that.
 

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