The Cardboard Vax!

[sebo_fan]

So here's the latest from Vax - the "world's first cardboard" vacuum cleaner. It probably isn't the first, but hat's off to Vax for identifying another substance to wrap a machine into.

http://www.cardboardvax.com/

 

[twocvbloke]

What was that about posts on subjects being in the archives?

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?14239

 

[eurekastar]

Thanks for posting!  Like many, I missed the earlier post.


 

 

[swiveltop]

Thanks for posting, very interesting,not everyone trolls the archives.

 

[jmurray01]

No, not everybody, but it was just that sebo_fan was going on about how things could be found in the archives instead of being re-posted.

Now, what did the pot call the kettle again...

 

[sebo_fan]

That may well be, but if you actually bothered to look up the new link I provided here, you'll see that it gives you the opportunity to test the product if you wish. The pocket lint listing provided on the original posting merely gives information.

 

[gsheen]

To be Fair Its not actually that much of a great idea. Most designers and engineering departments in the vacuum world make a cardboard working model of a new design, all VAX did was paint a pretty pic on a prototype model. 


 


I have some early hoover rangers prototypes were the whole hood is cardboard , and some were a few other cardboard working prototypes 

 

[tolivac]

Could that VAX cardboard vacuum be used as a "disposable" vacuum to be used at hazardous waste cleanups?esp if it has a so called real HEPA filter.since its cardboard-the body and contents could be incinerated-the motor remains picked from the ash-if put in a hi temp incinerator-wouldn't be much left of the motor except melted windings and maybe the cores-but would be sterile.

 

[gsheen]

I doubt it, if you dropped it or bumped it you could break the glue that seals it. 

 

[tolivac]

If the vacuum is that fragile--what use what it be?And some of us complained about PLASTIC vacuums!The cardboard would be worse-and if you stepped on it by mistake---there goes your vacuum-and you have a MESS!!Then you need another METAL or PLASTIC vac to clean up the cardboard ones mess.

 

[gsheen]

SO TRUE 


 

 

[jmurray01]

Getting onto the actual subject, I think a cardboard Vacuum Cleaner is the most asinine design yet!

Unless they can find a way to make it as strong as plastic, it will be useless.

Lets say you're vacuuming the stairs one day and it falls - There goes your Vax.

Lets say you're vacuuming the car one day and accidentally kick it when you're reaching under the seat to get a pile of crumbs up - There goes your Vax.

Lets say you have kids who are running around the house and accidentally stand on the Vacuum Cleaner - There goes your Vax...

I could continue.

 

[blackheart]

Hahaha!

That could be it's slogan "There goes your Vax"

I'm sure it's got some durability to it as the suction motor could otherwise crush the machine if it's hose became blocked

 

[sebo_fan]

Well if you follow the original link I posted here, it does show several layers of the cardboard in terms of how it is made. It isn't just made of up thin cardboard, but rather, several layers of it.

 

[jmurray01]

I can't see it catching on...

But then again, maybe in 20 years we'll all be buying cardboard appliances.

We've went from wood, to metal then to plastic and now possibly cardboard... Lord help us.

 

[twocvbloke]

With the way things are going in the financial world, lots of people on this earth of ours will be living in cardboard houses too...

 

[jmurray01]

True...

 

[vintagerepairer]

One can't help but wonder if the wet & dry cleaners will be made of cardboard too.

 

[jmurray01]

Ha ha, that would be interesting...

 

[vintagerepairer]

If not a little soggy.

 

[djtaylor]

Good Grief, what's next? Cardboard Cars? Is this a real product, or just some design school student's project? I can't see a vacuum company making a cardboard vacuum, they won't last a year.
Justin

 

[twocvbloke]

"they won't last a year."

About the same as any other modern vac then...

 

[jmurray01]

"About the same as any other modern vac then... " That's not true!

The last two modern Vacuum Cleaners I had (red Argos bagless upright & HOOVER Dust Manager) didn't last 6 MONTHS! Both lost their suction and had electrical issues, one (Argos) almost setting the house on fire.

 

[jmurray01]

Another thing is, how would it pass the strict electrical safety standards these days ?

If there was a fault with the electricals which caused a spark, what material likes flames ? Hmm... Cardboard!

 

[tolivac]

Cardboard vacuum---21st century Dumpster vacuum!You fill it up--then throw it into the dumpster!

 

[gsheen]

This is a design scholars project sponsored by vax 

 

[jmurray01]

"You fill it up--then throw it into the dumpster!" That's what you do with modern Vacuum Cleaners anyway, isn't it ?

 

[Jakesvacs]

JMurray01- I remember reading that the cardboard is fireproof!

What this cardboard vax is trying to get to is that, you can replace parts cheaply and when you have had enough its entiarly recyclable- minus the hose and motor. When people moan about plastic vacuums always breaking then having to pay a huge amount , a cardboard pannel is going to cost so little. Its taking a new approach to building materials, mabye also allowing most parts of the machine to made in the UK? Who knows?
Anyone remember those vintage vacuums made of cardboard? They stood the test of time!

 

[tolivac]

Old cardboard vacuums-the material isn't really cardboard-but like Masonite(hardboard)-a harder,tougher material intended to be a building material.It can be bent into a cylindrical form easily-thus a vacuum cleaner body.Manufactuers then thought metals and plastics would be better materials for a vacuum cleaner body.Masonite type materials can be weakened if they get wet-even tempered grade.
Yes many modern vacuum cleaners--cheap plastic ones esp-and bagless-fill 'em up-toss 'em into the dumpster.The idea of the carboard vacuum is indeed unusual-cardboard body parts easily replaced.Bet this will have to be done often during the life of that machine.We all know the tough,rough life vacuum cleaners have to endure.for the old "cardboard"? or hardboard vacuums as above-remember plastics weren't available then-and the means to use them.