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Ugh, that's going to be luscious!
Tarantula Arms Is Getting A Facelift
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gusherb
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Looks like there wont be any water shortage in your shower! Your neighbors might be wondering why they have no pressure in the morning hahahaha.
You may need to increase your pressure in the house for that!
and P.S. I'm drooling over here, that'll be an AWESOME shower.
You may need to increase your pressure in the house for that!
and P.S. I'm drooling over here, that'll be an AWESOME shower.
compactelectra
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That Main Valve Towards The Bottom
Where the hot and cold pipes come up from the floor isn't a flow valve. It's a thermostatic valve that controls the temperature. Each set of shower head(s) has its own flow valve. Those thermostatic valves are wonderful. No matter how many dishwashers, washing machines, and other showers are going on, the temperature is controlled to within 1 degree F.
Where the hot and cold pipes come up from the floor isn't a flow valve. It's a thermostatic valve that controls the temperature. Each set of shower head(s) has its own flow valve. Those thermostatic valves are wonderful. No matter how many dishwashers, washing machines, and other showers are going on, the temperature is controlled to within 1 degree F.
compactelectra
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Greenboard
Went up today. Next up the shower pan. Can't wait to see how that goes. New technology. Most important so that it doesn't leak into the first floor. This shower is not a standard size so this should be interesting.
Went up today. Next up the shower pan. Can't wait to see how that goes. New technology. Most important so that it doesn't leak into the first floor. This shower is not a standard size so this should be interesting.
davetranter
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Nice Project!!
Recirculating Hot Water is GOOD!! (Reply#14) Sadly, you don't see it much these days...
All the best hotels used the recirculating system, until they decided it was cheaper to use (so-called) 'instant' heaters (which aren't)..... :-(
All best
Dave T
Recirculating Hot Water is GOOD!! (Reply#14) Sadly, you don't see it much these days...
All the best hotels used the recirculating system, until they decided it was cheaper to use (so-called) 'instant' heaters (which aren't)..... :-(All best
Dave T
paulg
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I am so interested
Our upstairs shower (which also includes multiple jets) leaks into the first floor so we don't use it any longer. As I am on an extended vacation for the next year, I'm tasked with getting that repaired. Of course this entails a partial remodel of our master bath.
The contractor fudged the shower floor when they built this house eight years ago. I truly want to see how you navigate the new shower floor. I may springboard off of your experience.
Thanks for posting this.
Our upstairs shower (which also includes multiple jets) leaks into the first floor so we don't use it any longer. As I am on an extended vacation for the next year, I'm tasked with getting that repaired. Of course this entails a partial remodel of our master bath.
The contractor fudged the shower floor when they built this house eight years ago. I truly want to see how you navigate the new shower floor. I may springboard off of your experience.
Thanks for posting this.
compactelectra
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Paul
Sorry to hear about your shower floor. Eight years is way too soon to be having those types of problems. I have done large showers before and know that there is an art to laying the shower pan. The one I had done in LA was with mortar and a tar-based sealer. The system my contractor is using is much newer technology and he swears that these are totally water-tight. It better be because I know where he lives! He says that he used the same system in his house and filled it with water and it didn't leak a drop.
Sounds like you are going to have to rip out the whole shower floor and start over. If it is leaking, a patch job probably won't do. In any event the tile and pan will have to come up. Yikes! You are welcome to come over and take a look or give me a call and we can discuss. Here is a link to the system he is using and a shot of the installation in progress.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
Sorry to hear about your shower floor. Eight years is way too soon to be having those types of problems. I have done large showers before and know that there is an art to laying the shower pan. The one I had done in LA was with mortar and a tar-based sealer. The system my contractor is using is much newer technology and he swears that these are totally water-tight. It better be because I know where he lives! He says that he used the same system in his house and filled it with water and it didn't leak a drop.
Sounds like you are going to have to rip out the whole shower floor and start over. If it is leaking, a patch job probably won't do. In any event the tile and pan will have to come up. Yikes! You are welcome to come over and take a look or give me a call and we can discuss. Here is a link to the system he is using and a shot of the installation in progress.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
compactelectra
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PS
Poor Jerry didn't realize the scope of this project when he bid it. Let the negotiations begin!
Poor Jerry didn't realize the scope of this project when he bid it. Let the negotiations begin!
danemodsandy
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Fred:
What's that going over the greenboard - fiberglass-reinforced plastic board or cementitious board (like Hardiboard)?
What's that going over the greenboard - fiberglass-reinforced plastic board or cementitious board (like Hardiboard)?
compactelectra
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Sandy
Check out the link in reply 45 above. It explains everything. It's a composite mesh watertight fabric membrane. Here's the link again. Watch the videos.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
Check out the link in reply 45 above. It explains everything. It's a composite mesh watertight fabric membrane. Here's the link again. Watch the videos.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
paulg
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Fred,
Thank you very much for the excellent details of your shower remodel and for the technical link regarding the new-technology shower floor system. Getting contactors in here is imminent and your information is simply a great start for my task at hand.
Indeed our shower floor has buckled and sealing has proved futile. Your info has pushed me way ahead of the game to speak intelligently to those who will be doing the repairs.
Thanks too for the invite to see your repairs firsthand. Truly appreciate that.
Thank you very much for the excellent details of your shower remodel and for the technical link regarding the new-technology shower floor system. Getting contactors in here is imminent and your information is simply a great start for my task at hand.
Indeed our shower floor has buckled and sealing has proved futile. Your info has pushed me way ahead of the game to speak intelligently to those who will be doing the repairs.
Thanks too for the invite to see your repairs firsthand. Truly appreciate that.
compactelectra
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Paul
One other thing. You are very smart for not using that shower! The leaking can cause all kinds of structural issues in the house. In LA the shower was over a concrete slab but still didn't want any leaking issues. Get it fixed right!
One other thing. You are very smart for not using that shower! The leaking can cause all kinds of structural issues in the house. In LA the shower was over a concrete slab but still didn't want any leaking issues. Get it fixed right!
compactelectra
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I Got Home Today
And got this note from Jerry the contractor regarding progress. He is really good.
And got this note from Jerry the contractor regarding progress. He is really good.
compactelectra
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My Email Response
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Jerry – I think the room is coming along great! I am starting to get jazzed. It is going to be fabulous. Just make sure that shower doesn’t leak! I can meet you on Monday morning, first thing. Let me know when you will be here. I will leave the plan for the design of the floor tomorrow for you with the tile sizes. </span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The large tiles are 20” x 20” and the inset tiles are 13x13. The inset is surrounded by the pinwheel tile cut down to one set. The other pinwheel (full sheets) will go on the shower floor. I guess you’ll have to wrap the shower base as well with the pinwheel. I didn’t plan on tiling under the cabinet but there should be enough 20x20 tile for that (I hope.) I ordered extra. The walls will be primarily 6.5x13 laid out in subway style with the insets and bullnose. I ordered the grout and it is in at the Naperville store so if you could pick it up at some point, that would be great. The job is going great! I’ll see you on Monday morning.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Jerry – I think the room is coming along great! I am starting to get jazzed. It is going to be fabulous. Just make sure that shower doesn’t leak! I can meet you on Monday morning, first thing. Let me know when you will be here. I will leave the plan for the design of the floor tomorrow for you with the tile sizes. </span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The large tiles are 20” x 20” and the inset tiles are 13x13. The inset is surrounded by the pinwheel tile cut down to one set. The other pinwheel (full sheets) will go on the shower floor. I guess you’ll have to wrap the shower base as well with the pinwheel. I didn’t plan on tiling under the cabinet but there should be enough 20x20 tile for that (I hope.) I ordered extra. The walls will be primarily 6.5x13 laid out in subway style with the insets and bullnose. I ordered the grout and it is in at the Naperville store so if you could pick it up at some point, that would be great. The job is going great! I’ll see you on Monday morning.</span></span></p>
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compactelectra
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Oops
Forgot One Thing:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">(I can see you rolling your eyes.) We forgot about the shower niche. I was looking up on the Schulter site to learn about the system you are using (watch out) and they have prefabricated niches. Could we put in the 12” x 28” niche with the shelf? It will go on the back wall over the seat. Then you could tile it. Better to plan now.</span></span></p>
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Forgot One Thing:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">(I can see you rolling your eyes.) We forgot about the shower niche. I was looking up on the Schulter site to learn about the system you are using (watch out) and they have prefabricated niches. Could we put in the 12” x 28” niche with the shelf? It will go on the back wall over the seat. Then you could tile it. Better to plan now.</span></span></p>
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compactelectra
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I Guess I Am Pushing A Bit Hard
Here is his response:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;">Okay....first things first. How about 7:30-8:00 Monday morning, is that okay? Next, the pic is very helpful..only a couple of questions and we can do that on Monday.
The shower system is extremely reliable...its the same one I put in my own house. I"m also using a fiberglass product that goes over that. Ask me about it on Monday and I will explain. I have no doubts about the shower leaking, its going to be fine I promise.
Now..for me rolling my eye's...nope! I'm rubbing the tears out of them from crying! LOL!
Your killing me here and having fun doing it{ha-ha}
Seriously, as long as your happy at the end, you know that's my goal.
I will look into the shelf...I know it will have to be ordered as they don't stock those type of things at the store.
So..the shower wont be done tomorrow now..delete that part!
As for the shower curb, ask me about that on Monday..I have a couple of ideas I think will look great and the little tiles wont work anyway...too small.
Just need a little input on tile as to the tub deck and the height of the trim tile on the wall and I had an idea for around the light switches
More fun tomorrow..thanks for your patience as we trod along.</span></p>
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Here is his response:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;">Okay....first things first. How about 7:30-8:00 Monday morning, is that okay? Next, the pic is very helpful..only a couple of questions and we can do that on Monday.
The shower system is extremely reliable...its the same one I put in my own house. I"m also using a fiberglass product that goes over that. Ask me about it on Monday and I will explain. I have no doubts about the shower leaking, its going to be fine I promise.
Now..for me rolling my eye's...nope! I'm rubbing the tears out of them from crying! LOL!
Your killing me here and having fun doing it{ha-ha}
Seriously, as long as your happy at the end, you know that's my goal.
I will look into the shelf...I know it will have to be ordered as they don't stock those type of things at the store.
So..the shower wont be done tomorrow now..delete that part!
As for the shower curb, ask me about that on Monday..I have a couple of ideas I think will look great and the little tiles wont work anyway...too small.
Just need a little input on tile as to the tub deck and the height of the trim tile on the wall and I had an idea for around the light switches
More fun tomorrow..thanks for your patience as we trod along.</span></p>
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compactelectra
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Well -
I guess Jerry is not too p-o'd at me. Here is his email from today:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;">Fred,
FYI...I ordered the shelf for the shower, it will be in next week. Spoke with Doug from the cabinet place this morning, if he hasn't already, he will be calling you in regards to the door styles.
Have a great weekend and I will see you Monday morning
Jerry</span></p>
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Of course, we aren't anywhere near done yet!
I guess Jerry is not too p-o'd at me. Here is his email from today:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;">Fred,
FYI...I ordered the shelf for the shower, it will be in next week. Spoke with Doug from the cabinet place this morning, if he hasn't already, he will be calling you in regards to the door styles.
Have a great weekend and I will see you Monday morning
Jerry</span></p>
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Of course, we aren't anywhere near done yet!
Fred,
What are you going to do with Jerry when the job is done? Can you keep him on a "retainer" or something?
What are you going to do with Jerry when the job is done? Can you keep him on a "retainer" or something?
danemodsandy
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Update?
Considering that this is the most comprehensive makeover since Helen Lawson's third facelift, I wonder if there's any new news on what's going on?
Considering that this is the most comprehensive makeover since Helen Lawson's third facelift, I wonder if there's any new news on what's going on?
compactelectra
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Sandy
I am off visiting Greg in Omaha. I'll post updated pictures when I get back. The work is progressing in my absence.
Fred
I am off visiting Greg in Omaha. I'll post updated pictures when I get back. The work is progressing in my absence.
Fred
