Some HOOVERS from my recent trip to Ohio.

[guardsman69]

concepts groom deeper and out clean them all quadroflex agitation and direct air suction wins......

 

[kirbyultimateg]

Hoover needs to bring back a lot of things for residential use! LOL
Convertible/Decade/Elite/Legacy/Concept/Innovation uprights.
Celebrity/Spirit/Dimension/Spectrum/PowerMax/PortaPower canisters.
Floor A Matic/FloorMax carpet shampooers/floor polishers.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

I doubt Hoover will listen to my feedback. I doubt they will bring back these machines.

 

[guardsman69]

i think they are going forward with new product ...the tooling for those units was all sold off during the auction of north canton and has been converted into other things for other companies....saddly they had their time and hopefully the technology that made them great will live on....my giving them my collection insures that will happen....

 

[luxlife]

Speaking of new product and tooling..............

The very first photo shows a bright green machine to the right and in the background. I bears the Hoover crest but I've never seen one. With the placement of the release handle on front and the onboard hose in the rear, it almost looks like a re-badged Sebo upright.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Yes, it does look like a SEBO.

There was a huge debate over this.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

The WindTunnel has much better carpet cleaning than the DAM and has much better suction/airflow and has much better filtration than the DAM/Concept One/PowerMax/PowerDrive. However, The Concept One/PowerMax/PowerDrive has even better carpet cleaning than the WindTunnel. A 1980 Hoover Concept One would outclean a 1980 Eureka ESP. Does anybody agree with me?

 

[bagintheback]

KirbyUltimateG

Yep, the Windtunnel is far superior to the DAM. I've used both as daily drivers, and the Windtunnel has much stronger airflow and a better brush roll for a bypass system. The Concepts are fantastic. They really dig into the carpet and groom the fibers.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Well, I'LL agree with you.

Agreed,  the D.A.M. was good,  but, it had it's flaws.  The Concept seemed to correct all of those flaws.  It was a great vacuum, and, still is today.  The BEST thing about a D.A.M.,  I'll admit, is the tool hookup.  It is as SIMPLE as it gets. Here are the 2 cleaners side by side.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

I heard that you are able to put a Concept One brushroll in a DAM. I heard that you are able to put a DAM brushroll in a Concept One.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I never thought of that.

Not sure.  I THINK I have a NOS DAM brushroll hee somewhere.  hmmmm  I KNOW you can't buy a NEW brushroll for a Concept.


 

 

[nubz3760]

What is the white hoover with blue trim and a side bag in your pic? it looks kind of like a plastic royal or kirby, very interesting.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

That is a HOOVER Lark

They made one in burgundy, as well.  They were like apartment vacuums.  They take a C bag.  The Lark was also a form of an electrick  stick vac.  t's a nice little machine.  It has tools which go in the front,  kinda like a Kirby.

 

[guardsman69]

concept agitators were always quadroflex with the exception of a blue and tan u3315-070 made for kmart which had a unique agitator that looked like a dialamatic agitator because it had metal beater bars and one row of dialamatic brush strips....this was later replaced with the two brush or single row concept agitator later used in the concept strip down yet power surged u3341....in teal green....these agitators due to their pulley width would prohibit theit use in dial a matics and viceversa

 

[guardsman69]

concept agitators were always quadroflex with the exception of a blue and tan u3315-070 made for kmart which had a unique agitator that looked like a dialamatic agitator because it had metal beater bars and one row of dialamatic brush strips....this was later replaced with the two brush or single row concept agitator later used in the concept strip down yet power surged u3341....in teal green....these agitators due to their pulley width would prohibit theit use in dial a matics and viceversa

 

[guardsman69]

therefore the concept in john longs upper hall is that concept from kmart the jaclyn smith collection .....lol....what we need our john long to do is to flip his unit over and check out the bottom agitator cavity to see if he has the earlier version with this special and unique.... rarely seen hoover 2 brush metal beaterbarred agitator....lets hope john can get to the bottom of this mystery.....i know he will stay on top of this until it is solved.......

 

[raycarter]

Concept One U3315-070

I actually have this model and, quite frankly, I cannot see any difference between this model and those with the Quadraflex agitators as far as carpet cleaning performance is concerned. Both do an excellent job!

 

[kirbyultimateg]

I still think a 1980 Hoover Concept One U3103 would outclean a 1980 Eureka ESP 5070A in terms of deep cleaning medium pile nylon plush carpeting with a pad underneath. Does anybody agree?

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silly boy.   lolol

 

[durango159]

I don't like my Eureka ESP

All of my Hoovers outclean the Eureka 2105 ESP that I have. ALL OF THEM!!