Simplicity Freedom Premium model S10P

[williamr1248]

Simplicity Freedom

John,
Thanks for posting. It looks like a very nice machine.
How is the noise level? I like the color and the brush roller.

I have never owned a Simplicity or Ricarr but have looked at them in the vacuums stores. They seem to have very high quality when compared to what Eureka and Hoover are offering today. I was impressed with the vibration test on the full size uprights and some of the single motor uprights that were demonstrated were pretty quiet and had a quality feel to the machine and the complete tools sets offered with a long hose. I liked the fact that the machine DID NOT fall over with the tool use like my Hoover and Dyson uprights.

 

[ultralux88]

I'm not sure the newer fan will fit in the older style machine. I haven't had the new one apart, but I suspect there may have been changes made in the fan housing as well that may make them non-interchangeable.

 

[dysonman1]

Fan case from 1935 Air-Way DirtMasteR.

 

[dysonman1]

Fan case of new Premium ultra light. Engineers really do study history.

 

[tolivac]

Yes,Note how similar the Riccar fancase is to the Air Way one!The Air Way one looks tough enough to handle nuts&bolts--Not that I would use the Air Way for that.----But some folks would!!!If its on the floor they expect the vacuum to pick it up!A story from several years ago out here-former Riccar dealer.A customer walked in and looked at the Riccar Radiance vacuums-they had just come out.The customer threw several drywall screws on the vac place floor.He says"If that Riccar vacuum will pick those screws up-I will buy it"So Bill the shop owner obliged him.I cringed during this demo-but the Riccar ate the screws-and no apparent damage-mind you drywall screws are tough and SHARP-even more so than nails.The screws were ones used with drywall screwguns.And they are tough enough to driven into STEEL Studs!-and without a predrilled hole!The prospect bought the vacuum.I hope ingesting drywall screws isn't going to be its everyday diet!So far haven't seen any Riccars come in from damage due to drywall screws.Their fans and fancases must be tough to withstand them!

 

[luxlife]

Rob aka williamr1248

The noise level doesn't bother me. It's about the same as the Oreck, maybe a little less. I don't think it's fair to critique a direct air upright on noise because they're noisier by design. I do remember the 1st generation TOL being quieter than the entry level model, so I'd be curious about comparing this with the cheaper model of the current design. Seems like I remember that the other model had some kind of shroud or cover on the motor? This is definitely a question for Tom.

 

[jaker15]

Dysonman,

Do you have any more pictures or even a video of that DirtMasteR? I think it's a fascinating machine, and I would love to see one in action! All of AirWay's machines are fairly interesting, my new Sanitizor 66 just came in yesterday. LOVE IT!!! 

 

[jaker15]

Oh, if we need to

I will start a separate thread on AirWays. I don't mean to derail the subject of this thread!  

 

[luxlife]

"A separate thread on Air-Ways"

I think that's an excellent idea, considering this thread is about the Simplicity S10P. And believe me, I said that with a smile and without malice.

 

[luxlife]

5 month update: Dust Retention

I just gave the the interior of the outer bag a "white glove test" to see if any of the dust was escaping. Using a slightly damp paper towel, I wiped the inside of the bag. It came back white and clean! It must be because of the way the bag attaches to the machine. The latch mechanism that fastens the bag to the machine is part of the bag collar and not part of the machine, so there's nothing to wear out. My XL21 with the Saniseal has worn loose over time, so I know this is why the inside of the its outer bag is dusty.

 

[dysonman1]

I'm so glad that you're happy with your Simplicity. Since the awful-wreck existed before the design of the Simplicity, we were able to ask owners of 'wrecks' what they didn't like about the machine - and proceeded to design a truly great cleaner based on their feedback.

 

[floor-a-matic]

How does it compare to a Eureka Bravo & Powerline & Hoover Elite, Legacy & Soft & Light?

 

[dysonman1]

Those Bravos and Elites are NOT in the same category as the Premium Simplicity. Those were disposable and fragile machines (I've repaired literally hundreds of Bravos and Elites) - the Simplicity is a durable and well built vacuum.

 

[kirbysthebest]

I have a Riccar RSL4

So I already conceded that they are not the same, however, I have dust leaking around the neck where the handle attaches to the fan case. And I do rank the RSL4 as effective, but very delicate.

I do like the little guy, but for durability I would rate it a 2.

 

[dysonman1]

The new Premium model that was pictured, is completely changed in design as well as the seals around the fan case, based on the old Air-Way DirtMasteR design. The RSL4 was a good machine, but a very dated (more than ten year old) design.

 

[kirbysthebest]

I bought the RSL4

Seven years ago, it was the hottest puddle in the sand at that time.
Will have to look at the new Premium model. Maybe a trade is in order.

 

[fantomfan]

I have a Hoover model #HSCU8000B.

It is from about 2007 or 2008. It is a Riccar/Simplicity in Hoover clothing. I really like it even though the newest design seems far superior. It is definately my favorite lightweight upright, and definately cleans better than my Oreck XL. It's simple yet so effective.

 

[sleepdoc]

The older version

I have the TOL Freedom (had the TOL Riccar RSL5 but gave it to my friend Jonathan when he moved), and even the older design with HEPA bags didn't leak at all. I suppose the new ones are even better, but I never had an issue even before the improvements were introduced. The TOL lightweights with the metal brushrolls are amazing.

 

[dysonman1]

Riccar premium in red and Simplicity premium in electric blue. Stunning machines with the metal brush rolls and replaceable bristles, along with lifetime belt. Truly the top of the line

 

[miskini]

That riccar is a beauty