cparman
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Hello All, I have a question about the old shake out bag's (e.g., originally from a classic III). What is the smaller inner bag used for?
Shake out bag question
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henry200
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That inner pouch is like a glove. You reach in through the zipper, grasp the tab at the bottom and scrape debris that's clinging to the inside of the dust bag down into the emptor...........without getting your hand dusty.
cparman
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Henry200, thank you for the explanation.
twocvbloke
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"..........without getting your hand dusty."
In theory....
The older ones are just a cloth pocket, which dust gets into pretty easily, but the later coated them with some soft plastic (probably vinyl) or something, which disintegrates over time so you end up with a dusty hand with bits of plastic stuff on them, but the current bags seem to have the pockets made from plastic material which are stiffer to use...
In theory....
The older ones are just a cloth pocket, which dust gets into pretty easily, but the later coated them with some soft plastic (probably vinyl) or something, which disintegrates over time so you end up with a dusty hand with bits of plastic stuff on them, but the current bags seem to have the pockets made from plastic material which are stiffer to use...
yes, that old and odd pouch
I had seen it on an old Kirby Classic III when in the U.S. Even back then I thought: "Goodness, they go through all this thinking process of how to make shakeout bags easier to use" and I was shaking my head as shakeouts were gone over here for good (for some 1- 2 decades already, no questions at all that ANY vac had paper filters). Then I thought: This must have something to do with the technology of uprights (yet finding that Classic III so hard to push over their 2 inches high pile wall-to-wall carpet). YEARS too late to be competitive the G3 and G4 Kirby vacs came around here, when Hoover had their power assist already in almost any supermarket. I thought: Ok, what has happened between Einstein's bakelite telephone discussions and the 20th century?
These pouches are so retro to me, they even look terrific again now! I like the itch of their zippers, so handily unhandy. Certainly a thing to be collected today, but back then I considered them a nuisance. Today they are sheer retro fun to me.
I had seen it on an old Kirby Classic III when in the U.S. Even back then I thought: "Goodness, they go through all this thinking process of how to make shakeout bags easier to use" and I was shaking my head as shakeouts were gone over here for good (for some 1- 2 decades already, no questions at all that ANY vac had paper filters). Then I thought: This must have something to do with the technology of uprights (yet finding that Classic III so hard to push over their 2 inches high pile wall-to-wall carpet). YEARS too late to be competitive the G3 and G4 Kirby vacs came around here, when Hoover had their power assist already in almost any supermarket. I thought: Ok, what has happened between Einstein's bakelite telephone discussions and the 20th century?
These pouches are so retro to me, they even look terrific again now! I like the itch of their zippers, so handily unhandy. Certainly a thing to be collected today, but back then I considered them a nuisance. Today they are sheer retro fun to me.
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dust leaking from bagless kirby
Hey all,
I have a Kirby Sanitronic VII (bagless type) to which the trap-door opening of the emptor does not seat really tightly, hence whenever I turn the vacuum on, a big cloud of dust blows out all over the room for the first few seconds ... Upon closer examination I noticed there is a small groove that goes around the inside of the plastic trap door arrangement... was there ever some sort of a gasket there to help it seat more tightly? If not, has anyone come up with a way to make their own which I could try? Or would this work at all? Is there a way to adjust it so it will sit tighter?
Hey all,
I have a Kirby Sanitronic VII (bagless type) to which the trap-door opening of the emptor does not seat really tightly, hence whenever I turn the vacuum on, a big cloud of dust blows out all over the room for the first few seconds
... Upon closer examination I noticed there is a small groove that goes around the inside of the plastic trap door arrangement... was there ever some sort of a gasket there to help it seat more tightly? If not, has anyone come up with a way to make their own which I could try? Or would this work at all? Is there a way to adjust it so it will sit tighter?
bnsd60m9200
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yes there is supposed to be a gasket to make the sani emtor air tight when turned on. kirbyneeds.com sells the older sanitronic style emtor gaskets for about $2 a piece. make sure to glue it on every inch or so. and there should be 0 excess if installed properly. also on the older sanitroncs, the wire that held the emtor door on sometimes needs to be rebent to hold it up closer to the tray.
Will Hemb
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That pouch is called the "Sani-Scraper" and was originally introduced on the Sanitronic 562 in 1962.
The 1979 Tradition 3-CB was the first Kirby to feature a disposable bag system, but that had a poor beginning along with the new headlight-mounted safety switch, the latter of which ensured safety providing that the headlight cap be all the way down toward the nozzle or hose in order for the machine to turn on (you, of course, must have unplugged the machine before you changed the nozzle to a hose and back).
The reason the Tradition's disposable bag system wasn't successful was due to the fill tube having little intake space for the bigger objects vacuumed off the floor.
~Ben
The 1979 Tradition 3-CB was the first Kirby to feature a disposable bag system, but that had a poor beginning along with the new headlight-mounted safety switch, the latter of which ensured safety providing that the headlight cap be all the way down toward the nozzle or hose in order for the machine to turn on (you, of course, must have unplugged the machine before you changed the nozzle to a hose and back).
The reason the Tradition's disposable bag system wasn't successful was due to the fill tube having little intake space for the bigger objects vacuumed off the floor.
~Ben
bnsd60m9200
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that means it needs to be washed. i converted my classic omega to have a hepa felt fabric sewn into the original to prevent this. great idea. only down side is you need an industrial sewing machine to handle the thread and fabric. but it will preserve the original dump bag and still able to be used in heavy cleaning without leakage.
to wash it, wash it with woolite on a cold delicate cycle and dry on low heat only. DO NOT use a top load agitating machine to wash the bag as they abuse the older fabric bags. use a front loader at home or a laundromat.
Will Hemb
to wash it, wash it with woolite on a cold delicate cycle and dry on low heat only. DO NOT use a top load agitating machine to wash the bag as they abuse the older fabric bags. use a front loader at home or a laundromat.
Will Hemb
twocvbloke
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Clean out the bag after each use to keep it as clean as possible.
To clean out the bag, do as follows:
1. Loser the nozzle as far down as it will go, this is to prevent dust escaping.
2. Unhook the bag from the handle and hold tight
3. power up the vacuum until the bag inflates, then shut it off and shake the living daylight out of the bag
4. Empty the Sani-Emtor over a sheet of newspaper and then the Sani-Emtor again
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4
6. Open up the Sani-Scraper pocket (if fitted, earlier bags did not) and scrape the inside of the bag as best you can, and dump out the collected fluff and dirt onto the newspaper
7. fold or roll up the newspaper sheet and throw it in a bin or onto the fire
To clean the bag to sanitise it, do as above, then remove the bag from the Sani-Emtor (lift the plastic bag guard up onto the bag beforehand though and remove once the bag is off the emtor), remove the bag top trim and hanger, turn the bag inside out and then handwash in Woolite or similar, or place in the washer on a gentle wash with some old towels and Woolite (take this time to give the emtor a cleaning out too)...
Once it's washed turn the bag the right way out and hang it up somewhere warm indoors either until almost dry to iron it flat (looks nice when the folds are ironed) or until completely dry (make sure the bag spring area is COMPLETELY DRY first!!! This spring can rust out and break if not completely dried), then refit the bag on the Sani-Emtor (takes some doing if it's your first time) and finally, take pride in your work and enjoy the clean scent of the washed bag...
To clean out the bag, do as follows:
1. Loser the nozzle as far down as it will go, this is to prevent dust escaping.
2. Unhook the bag from the handle and hold tight
3. power up the vacuum until the bag inflates, then shut it off and shake the living daylight out of the bag
4. Empty the Sani-Emtor over a sheet of newspaper and then the Sani-Emtor again
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4
6. Open up the Sani-Scraper pocket (if fitted, earlier bags did not) and scrape the inside of the bag as best you can, and dump out the collected fluff and dirt onto the newspaper
7. fold or roll up the newspaper sheet and throw it in a bin or onto the fire
To clean the bag to sanitise it, do as above, then remove the bag from the Sani-Emtor (lift the plastic bag guard up onto the bag beforehand though and remove once the bag is off the emtor), remove the bag top trim and hanger, turn the bag inside out and then handwash in Woolite or similar, or place in the washer on a gentle wash with some old towels and Woolite (take this time to give the emtor a cleaning out too)...
Once it's washed turn the bag the right way out and hang it up somewhere warm indoors either until almost dry to iron it flat (looks nice when the folds are ironed) or until completely dry (make sure the bag spring area is COMPLETELY DRY first!!! This spring can rust out and break if not completely dried), then refit the bag on the Sani-Emtor (takes some doing if it's your first time) and finally, take pride in your work and enjoy the clean scent of the washed bag...
twocvbloke
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Erm, step 1. should say "Lower", not "Loser", I've been having some motor skill issues these past couple of days.... :S
Miss Mercy
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I have a really funny story about that pocket on the bag, but I don't know if it would be appropriate to say on here. It's nothing dirty.
