This vid is lame and stupid. I doesnt cost $150 to replace a Dyson belt its $60.
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfog8eUJvmE
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfog8eUJvmE
Seriously?
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miskini
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I've never
Heard of morse vacuums. It almost looks like a Tacony machine.
Heard of morse vacuums. It almost looks like a Tacony machine.
kirbylux77
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Guys, there is a simple reason for this video. The guy is running a vac shop, & he's your typical greasy, sleazy douchebag that rips people off by doing repairs poorly & overcharges for his new fancy Chinese made vacuums. He'll do ANYTHING, even lieing, to bash his competition to get you to buy his vacuum instead, & he makes his profit the easy, sleazy way. You can find these scam artists in every town & city in North America.
The worst part? Little does this jackass realize that people don't need vac shops anymore....you can buy your next vacuum off the Internet....Amazon is a perfect example here....or walk into WalMart, buy your next disposable Chinese vacuum that lasts 5 years or so, buy all your bags/belts/filters online or in department stores, & when it breaks throw it away & buy another one. When these sleazy vac shop owners pull this crap with their customers, that's EXACTLY what the consumer does, never sees the vac shop again, & they go out of business, just like they deserve to!
Rob
PS - Ask the average person on the street what they think of vac shops, & most people immediately think they're crooks & scam artists. Yes, it's gotten THAT bad!
The worst part? Little does this jackass realize that people don't need vac shops anymore....you can buy your next vacuum off the Internet....Amazon is a perfect example here....or walk into WalMart, buy your next disposable Chinese vacuum that lasts 5 years or so, buy all your bags/belts/filters online or in department stores, & when it breaks throw it away & buy another one. When these sleazy vac shop owners pull this crap with their customers, that's EXACTLY what the consumer does, never sees the vac shop again, & they go out of business, just like they deserve to!
Rob
PS - Ask the average person on the street what they think of vac shops, & most people immediately think they're crooks & scam artists. Yes, it's gotten THAT bad!
human
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The sleaze factor is really universal.
This trend is not just confined to the vacuum cleaner industry but pervades the retail service economy as a whole. Most businesses today would prefer to make a quick buck off than to build a long term and mutually beneficial relationship. Quite the contrary--they really don't want to get to know the customer at all and don't care if they never see any particular customer again.
This trend is not just confined to the vacuum cleaner industry but pervades the retail service economy as a whole. Most businesses today would prefer to make a quick buck off than to build a long term and mutually beneficial relationship. Quite the contrary--they really don't want to get to know the customer at all and don't care if they never see any particular customer again.
3rdgenvacguy
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Not every vac shop owner is a sleazy con artist. Many do try to overcharge on repairs and try to sell new vacuums instead. If everyone bought their vacs on
amazon, you would be buying a vac sight unseen. What looks good on computer monitor can turn into a POS when you unbox it. The knowledgeable owner will point you to something that can lasts, and I will do it at any price point. Good vacuums are also something that you get what you pay for. A $39 Eureka Airspeed One from Walmart will leak more dust after a month, than it can pick up. The seals to the dust cup are built into the plastic backbone of the handle, and us dealers are suppose to fix this problem under warranty. The customer gets pissed off, your reputation as a store owner goes downhill when you tell them you cannot redesign the machine, and to top it off Electrolux gives you a whopping $4.50 cents on a warranty repair to clean filters. We started selling janitorial supplies 28 years ago. Simply running a stand alone vac shop is much harder today than it has ever been. People use to go to a vac shop to buy a vacuum. My father and uncle could run an ad in the newspaper and sell over 100 Hoover convertibles in just a week back in the seventies. By the way, if a customer wants belts on a DCo7 clutch machine, and that's all they want done, I charge 19.95 labor and the 2 pack of belts cost around 5 bucks. I have even installed them while they wait. I've done so many of them that it only takes about 10 minutes.
amazon, you would be buying a vac sight unseen. What looks good on computer monitor can turn into a POS when you unbox it. The knowledgeable owner will point you to something that can lasts, and I will do it at any price point. Good vacuums are also something that you get what you pay for. A $39 Eureka Airspeed One from Walmart will leak more dust after a month, than it can pick up. The seals to the dust cup are built into the plastic backbone of the handle, and us dealers are suppose to fix this problem under warranty. The customer gets pissed off, your reputation as a store owner goes downhill when you tell them you cannot redesign the machine, and to top it off Electrolux gives you a whopping $4.50 cents on a warranty repair to clean filters. We started selling janitorial supplies 28 years ago. Simply running a stand alone vac shop is much harder today than it has ever been. People use to go to a vac shop to buy a vacuum. My father and uncle could run an ad in the newspaper and sell over 100 Hoover convertibles in just a week back in the seventies. By the way, if a customer wants belts on a DCo7 clutch machine, and that's all they want done, I charge 19.95 labor and the 2 pack of belts cost around 5 bucks. I have even installed them while they wait. I've done so many of them that it only takes about 10 minutes.
ralph123
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Most vac store owners that are in business long term are good honest business people. If someone is in business long term, they must be doing something right. Anyone scamming customers will be exposed by bad reviews and not stay in business long.
The vac shop I patronize is very honest,competent,and straightforward with sales,repairs to both vacuums and sewing machines.Contrast this to the 'Lux place on the other side of town with the sign posted outside their place"We repair any type of vacuum"Sure you do-you tell the customer his machine is non repairable and will try to sell them a new 'Lux machine under a home demo.Lux is good,but don't like that approach.Makes them look like sleazeballs.The place I go to has customers bringing machines to him for repair that the Lux place couldn't fix.---Most of the problems were broken belts,clogs,and full bags or bins.Oh yes on the Dyson filters the Morse man points out you have to buy them-you can if you want--but you can wash them and reuse.
Did you notice the Morse mans shop---What a yucky place--water marks on the ceiling,Fuller vac displays---low end machines.No higher end vacuum in sight.Don't know much about Morse vacuums-is this a TTI or Taconoy brand?Never seen one until that video clip.
After the Morse video--the YouTube autoplay takes me to the Jennifer and Bo's infomercial demo of the Oreck Gold vacuum--what a laugh-more funny then the Morse one.Never seen Orecks on infomercials until now.Sleazy way to sell vacuums.
If you buy a vacuum from Amazon-what if you don't like it?Guess you have to pack it up and send it back-then you have to do this until you find a machine you like.WEll,at the vac shop you can try several types of machines at once then make up your mind.And you have service if the machine needs it available right thre-no boxing up and shipping--then waiting to get your machine back repaired?Will go the vac shop route over sight unseen via Amazon-a picture of the machine on the computer monitor screen just doesn't cut it for me.That may be fine if you are replacing a like vacuum and you know you like the machine.
Did you notice the Morse mans shop---What a yucky place--water marks on the ceiling,Fuller vac displays---low end machines.No higher end vacuum in sight.Don't know much about Morse vacuums-is this a TTI or Taconoy brand?Never seen one until that video clip.
After the Morse video--the YouTube autoplay takes me to the Jennifer and Bo's infomercial demo of the Oreck Gold vacuum--what a laugh-more funny then the Morse one.Never seen Orecks on infomercials until now.Sleazy way to sell vacuums.
If you buy a vacuum from Amazon-what if you don't like it?Guess you have to pack it up and send it back-then you have to do this until you find a machine you like.WEll,at the vac shop you can try several types of machines at once then make up your mind.And you have service if the machine needs it available right thre-no boxing up and shipping--then waiting to get your machine back repaired?Will go the vac shop route over sight unseen via Amazon-a picture of the machine on the computer monitor screen just doesn't cut it for me.That may be fine if you are replacing a like vacuum and you know you like the machine.
hvrvaclvr
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"The Morse can reach almost 10 feet. With the almightly Dyson, you have very little reach with this machine, you're not going to get 10 feet".... Um yeah you're not going to get 10 feet you're going to get 15.6 feet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every Dyson but the DC24 and DC50 can reach 15.6 feet with the hose and wand fully extened... Which is more than the Morse vacuum.
"They have an extensive filter" they're life time, washable, reusable filters....
I quit watching after 3 minutes, but I am sure it has a lot more bogus claims in it...
Also he has his comments disabled. Why would an honest buisness man block comments? And What is a Morse vacuum? This is the first I've heard of them. I just googled it, and there's the link to his video, and another Vacuumland thread.
"They have an extensive filter" they're life time, washable, reusable filters....
I quit watching after 3 minutes, but I am sure it has a lot more bogus claims in it...
Also he has his comments disabled. Why would an honest buisness man block comments? And What is a Morse vacuum? This is the first I've heard of them. I just googled it, and there's the link to his video, and another Vacuumland thread.
Can the Dyson stretch hose reach more than 15Ft?Thought one of the Dyson ads showed that you could put the Dyson vacuum at the foot of the stairs and it could reach up to the top step without moving the machine.Somewhere I have a stretch hose for a Kirby "G" type vacuum that could be used for stair or long reach cleaning.
The Vac Shop near me isnt bad. They offer base models, middle models, and top of the line Royals. I dont use them for repair. I havnt needed it. When i do, i go to another shop. Its farther away, but ive known them since my gramma took me vacuum shopping with her as a kid. I only buy bags from my local shop these days. he told me a $20 Kenmore part would cost $70 to order, plus shipping and tax. I told him i'd think about it. I still havnt ordered it since its cheaper at Kenmore. Not enough time to do so with work going on. i trust the shop ive been going to for years. The owner still knows me and chuckles when I walk through the door. He tells the employee to lock up the Electrolux's since im always haggling with him about them. The only 2 things better about the other shop, is that one its 10 miles closer, and 2 my buddy works there. He fixes things for me cheap at his house. I still try to do my own repairs, but im not very good at it.
oliveoiltinfoil
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Those dyson from that era weren't as good as for how much they charged but they were by no means bad. At least they had powerful suction and good room around the roller housing. The point of those tabs is that you can use a coin to access the roller brush. That entire mechanism has never been £70 (roughly converted to GDP for the time as well) even from dyson.
kirbysthebest
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Vac and/or sewing centers are a dying breed
WE have one exclusively vacuum shop in ICT that is excellent, Kansas Vacuum Center. He is kind, non-pushy, straight forward and I have never caught him in a lie. He is willing to deal where he can and always seems glad that you are there. Also his shop seems to always be busy. He sells from Hoover to Miele, He is also a Riccar and Sebo dealer. He is also an authorized Dyson repair center, but claims that reimbursement from the company on warranty work is slow coming and low paying.
Another a Sewing and Vac center, exclusively a Simplicity dealer, Mid-West Sewing Center. Total sleeze, will lie, damage your machine to show how much better his is, and will just walk away from you turning his back when you try to speak if you try to negotiate a price. He has been in business a very long time, over 60 years, and still does a great business as many of his customers are older, like my mother, that knew him back when. Over the years he has been an exclusive dealer of Royal, Panasonic, now like I said Simplicity.
Southend Sewing Center, OMG, Panasonic vacuum dealer. Total A-hole. Knew him from my days of collecting bad debts. Never pays his bills, over charges everyone. Sooner he is put in jail or ran out of business the better.
Eastside Vacuum, a Royal, Hoover, Panasonic dealer. For the most part honest, but you have to know your stuff going in, or he will try to get one over on you.
Wichita Kirby Company--It's a good thing they sell door to door, because the lady at the desk is not very nice. Going in to their business to buy bags or get service is a inconvenience to her. The open sign is only a requirement, not an invitation. The service guy is pretty nice, and pricing is up to par with average. (I buy my bags, belts and brushrolls online).
Aerus-Electrolux now called Douglas Vacuum, pegs the warning meter, I only went there once. They closed the office at Westway, now have a business in Derby.
Kansas Rainbow, can't say much about the office, repairs or service, because they are never open. They do the DTD from that office, but if you need service, or consumables, you have to go online.
For the most part I think vac shops are there to do business, and stay in business. I think the "dishonest" type are a little more desperate as their time is limited in the business world. In this economy some are struggling and turn to poor tactics, others are struggling and work harder to keep your business.
WE have one exclusively vacuum shop in ICT that is excellent, Kansas Vacuum Center. He is kind, non-pushy, straight forward and I have never caught him in a lie. He is willing to deal where he can and always seems glad that you are there. Also his shop seems to always be busy. He sells from Hoover to Miele, He is also a Riccar and Sebo dealer. He is also an authorized Dyson repair center, but claims that reimbursement from the company on warranty work is slow coming and low paying.
Another a Sewing and Vac center, exclusively a Simplicity dealer, Mid-West Sewing Center. Total sleeze, will lie, damage your machine to show how much better his is, and will just walk away from you turning his back when you try to speak if you try to negotiate a price. He has been in business a very long time, over 60 years, and still does a great business as many of his customers are older, like my mother, that knew him back when. Over the years he has been an exclusive dealer of Royal, Panasonic, now like I said Simplicity.
Southend Sewing Center, OMG, Panasonic vacuum dealer. Total A-hole. Knew him from my days of collecting bad debts. Never pays his bills, over charges everyone. Sooner he is put in jail or ran out of business the better.
Eastside Vacuum, a Royal, Hoover, Panasonic dealer. For the most part honest, but you have to know your stuff going in, or he will try to get one over on you.
Wichita Kirby Company--It's a good thing they sell door to door, because the lady at the desk is not very nice. Going in to their business to buy bags or get service is a inconvenience to her. The open sign is only a requirement, not an invitation. The service guy is pretty nice, and pricing is up to par with average. (I buy my bags, belts and brushrolls online).
Aerus-Electrolux now called Douglas Vacuum, pegs the warning meter, I only went there once. They closed the office at Westway, now have a business in Derby.
Kansas Rainbow, can't say much about the office, repairs or service, because they are never open. They do the DTD from that office, but if you need service, or consumables, you have to go online.
For the most part I think vac shops are there to do business, and stay in business. I think the "dishonest" type are a little more desperate as their time is limited in the business world. In this economy some are struggling and turn to poor tactics, others are struggling and work harder to keep your business.
blackheart
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Looking at it
It looks like it's an older Dustcare Evolution probably a 6100 model. They are actually pretty good performers i have an older Bernina badged 6700 which i use for janitorial work. It's performance is very close maybe slightly better than a simplicity 7 series due to a 3 row brush.
It looks like it's an older Dustcare Evolution probably a 6100 model. They are actually pretty good performers i have an older Bernina badged 6700 which i use for janitorial work. It's performance is very close maybe slightly better than a simplicity 7 series due to a 3 row brush.
daknx1994
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There are many sleazeball artists out there. It is no where near that much for a Dyson Clutch. If we have to replace the clutch at our store it is only $29.99 for the clutch and roughly $19.99 labor. To replace the belts is about the same as 3rdGenVacGuy. There are so many people out there who try to rip off the unsuspecting. There is a one man stand vac store down the road from one of our locations and we get customers all the time from him who have stories ranging from he could not fix their machine because it is "too old", and parts are not available to it was going to cost the customer an arm and a leg. We have a massive warehouse where we store all of out trade-ins. We even keep machines that are 50+ years old. If a customer brings in a older machine and parts are not available, we let the customer know that we do have some used parts and we test them to ensure they work and offer a better price because they are used. I know some in the business that will use old parts and charge a new part price.
I enjoyed that video. I love watching vacuum salesmen talk down the other guy. It's very entertaining.
It'd be a total turnoff if I actually wanted to buy a machine from him. Don't tell me what mine can't do, tell me what yours can do. I'll compare them myself.
It'd be a total turnoff if I actually wanted to buy a machine from him. Don't tell me what mine can't do, tell me what yours can do. I'll compare them myself.
