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marcusprit

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Sebo produce very well built reliable Upright and Cylinder cleaners but the one weakness is they don't have enough suction or airflow to deep clean carpets!

The D4 produces 70" of water lift at the end of the hose which is VERY average for todays standards.

Its time for Sebo gave their machines a turbo boost! :)
 
Firstly, hello and welcome.

Secondly, I disagree with you MASSIVELY. I've been using Sebo vacuums now for at least 5 years and most of my relatives now own their machines. I've never found the suction to be a problem and in my experience of the D4, the suction is very similar to that of a Numatic Henry. I'm sure one of our other members will be able to give you some technical data regarding airwatts compared with other cylinders on the market.

Thirdly, no straight suction cleaner will ever be able to deep clean a thick pile carpet.

Of all the issues I know of people having with their Sebo's, the suction has never been one of them. The most common issues are dislike of the automatic height adjustment (which is more of a personal preference thing) and the X series falling over when using the hose, which I agree is quite annoying.
 
Thank you for your welcome. And I agree with you only a direct air motor will clean deep pile carpets effectively but of the bypass motor cleaners in my experience my Miele S5 gives a deeper clean than my Sebo Felix. I still think the Felix is one of the best uprights available in the UK along with the X4 although I'm not keen on the automatic height adjustment. Id like to see the G1 available as I prefer to adjust the height manually.

Id also like to see Miele introduce a more compact version of the S7
 
Your Sebo Felix will out-clean the S5 on carpet simply because it has a brushroll.

I agree completely about the S7. It was obviously designed for the US market. Far too large for most UK homes
 
I use an Accu Nova with my miele and it does a good job but they should offer a revolution model for customers who want it. And yes I agree the S7 was made for the American market.
 
Sealed suction isn't nearly as important as airflow and agitation for carpet cleaning. Royal uprights don't have terribly impressive sealed suction, nor do older Kirbys, but they're considered deep cleaners par excellence.

Most everyone here, at least, seems to generally agree that Sebo's power nozzle canisters keep up with Miele and Simplicity/Riccar for carpet cleaning, mostly due to high airflow and a good power nozzle that provides solid agitation.

Sure, they could beef them up, and it might even help, but they're no slouches as they are.
 
With advances in technology would it be possible to produce a bypass motor that can clean as well as a direct air motor or is this beyond the realms of possibility?
 
The suction starts out fine, but it depletes rather quickly as the bag fills.... and the agitation is weak.... at least on the automatic style machines. They can't sell themselves on stellar cleaning performance, they are great for durability and easy maintenance, perfect for thin flat commercial carpet, but much more than that I think requires a more capable machine....

No matter who the S7 was made for, it is an amazing work of art that performs wonderfully.... I don't even want to suck up dirt with mine because it is so beautiful!
 
It performs well until cheap plastic parts start falling off it. Lets be honest mieles latest offerings do not have the same build quality as their previous models!
 
Video looks impressive. Still not convinced it will perform better than the miele S7 but it will certainly beat it for reliability and ease of use in my opinion.
 
Great video but the carpet in that video didn't look very plush though... that's where aggressive agitation and grooming are really needed.... even a cheap Hoover Windtunnel grooms better than an Automatic X or the equivalent Windsor....

I also am not sure that the Sebo would out clean the S7.... if it did, that would surprise me very much.... I have read durability about durability issues with the S7s.... I'm glad mine is holding up so well! That's why you go with Sebo over Miele though if durability is more important thant agitation to you....
 
As far as bypass-air uprights keeping up with direct-air ones, I think the Riccar Vibrance and Simplicity Symmetry (plus their older versions, the 6/7 series or 8000-series Riccars) come pretty close. My only gripe with them is that the suction inlet is on the right, rather than in the center - and that there's no good way to fix that without making the air path snaky, which would reduce airflow. The Miele S7, by all accounts, comes pretty close too.
 
It's not a deep pile carpet, no. It's a medium pile, hard wearing rug. I'll try the same test on my upstairs carpet and see how it goes, that's much thicker.

I went with Sebo over Miele because the machine is more durable, cheaper consumables, easier to dissemble, lighter, more maneuverable, cheaper to buy etc etc. I think you get far more value with the Sebo and the performance difference is negligible. The S7 is also simply too big for my house.
 
Well you know you could always have a Sebo and a Miele... you are a collector! LOL. It sounds like you chose the Sebo for the right reasons....
 
Im with Chris here, but you miss out one rather important feature with the D4 - can't trust the data of what you're told with pull lift and that's with any brand. The D4 like the rest of SEBO's vacuums have 2100 watts. Not the highest because Miele fight back up 2200 watts. However, the power nozzle floor head sees service with the K3 as well as the Felix and commercial upright version the SEBO Dart and they are designed for commercial use as well as domestic.

Like the rest of SEBO's range, it is all commercial based. I had an S7 and apart from it being bulky, the most annoying aspects were that the rear hose was bolted in by two screws, so if any clogging happened you have to unscrew the bottom hose - with SEBO as you know, it's all about unlocking clasps or unlocking something. The S7 may well have a spring action loader on its floor head but its swivel is too big to go around the corners and the Felix is so much better in this respect if you need a swivel based upright vacuum. I find the X series agitation to be fine and far easier to clean off threads etc unlike the guide-to-cut lines on the brush roll of the Miele.

In addition I can't stand that you have to push you foot on the pedal to get the S7 over thresholds as well as onto different floor coverings. The cushion of air should be enough to interrupt different rugs for example instead of having to use the pedal all the time. The only thing that Miele offers over the SEBO is a far more complicated, heavier hose and wand at the back as well as variable suction control and far more power.

Miele at the moment haven't thought about a compact upright - in their eyes, a compact upright is the Alternative stick vacuum or S190 series, both of which are no longer available to buy in the UK. As a suction only stick vacuum, it is okay but it isn't featherlight. I still have problems with mine due to its bottom fill bag where dust falls out and through the floor head. But I'd rather have it over a Miele S7 again.
 
you could always have a Sebo and a Miele

I do. I have an S5210. I use it on the bare floors and for above floor cleaning mostly. The Sebo is my daily driver though.
 

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