Sebo Cordless SoftCase BP60

[manchestervacs]

I didn't notice a topic on this here yet, but I know some will be interested. Sebo are about to launch a cordless vacuum. We have a blog post with all we know up to now at the link.

https://seboshop.co.uk/blog/sebo-cordless-vacuum-cleaner-softcase-bp60/

 

[henrydreyfuss]

Cool

A direct air Sebo with a manual height adjustment? Sign me up!

 

[eurekaprince]

It will be interesting to hear how loud this cleaner is. I am a big fan (pardon the pun) of simple, fan-first bagged lightweight uprights that are designed to only clean carpets. However, the one drawback has often been their poor noise suppression. Hopefully Sebo has figured out how to make this one quieter.

 

[kirbylux77]

Looks very nice! The only thing I have to wonder about, is what is the filtration system set up this vacuum uses? Typically, the Sebo S Class Filtration System uses 3 separate filters - bag, pre-motor filter and post motor filter - to achieve S Class Filtration which they claim is the equivalent to HEPA Filtration, which it is NOT. So, if this is a direct air upright, since most have only a HEPA Cloth bag as the final filter to filter dust from the air, what else are they doing to make this vacuum have S Class Filtration?

Rob

 

[huskyvacs]

Interesting you plug the cord into the vacuum to charge it. I presume battery is internal?

 

[luxlife]

Battery looks to be removable

I’ll be interested in its filtration and noise levels and if there’s a multi speed option. My Supralite is wearing down and I’m looking for a simple upright replacement. It’ll be interesting to see if this is geared only for commercial use or if there’s a residential version also.

 

[manchestervacs]

We had one of these in the shop a few days ago to look at. There will be videos and lots of photos quite soon, but for now, I can answer the questions above.

"Hopefully Sebo has figured out how to make this one quieter" - I wouldn't call it especially quiet, but it has to meet UK and EU noise regs.

"What is the filtration system set up this vacuum uses?" - The bag is the only filter I could see. But the bags are thicker than standard Sebo bags.

"Interesting you plug the cord into the vacuum to charge it. I presume the battery is internal?" - The battery is removable and not much smaller than a house brick. I've attached a photo of the battery out of the machine.

"If there’s a multi-speed option. It’ll be interesting to see if this is geared only for commercial use or if there’s a residential version also." - It's aimed at the commercial market. It's single-speed. Future models may have hoses and attachments. A corded version is rumoured to be coming to the US later on.

 

[singingrainbow]

Corded Version

Looks like the corded version will be distributed through Karcher, it's already on their website:



https://www.kaercher.com/us/professional/commercial-vacuums/upright-vacuums/ranger-10129000.html

 

[blackheart]

How bizzarre

Looking over the specs it appears this corded version has a rating of 57.2 CFM. Looking over the schematic it looks like these have a very unusual setup. I think that the fan is run by a belt. Cool that it uses a geared belt though.

 

[panasonicvac]

I really love the looks of the new Karcher Professional, it reminds me of a classic Panasonic upright haha. However, I am a bit concerned though of the success that it'd serve on the market. This is just in my opinion but I think direct air vacuums are outdated nowadays, especially in the commercial market. In fact, I just bought a Windsor Versamatic for a place that I would go help clean for once a week since it's got to have a hose on-board and it has a track record of being one of the most reliable commercial vacuums ever. With it being a bypass design, there's no fans to break or replace as lots of people would vacuum up something that they shouldn't like rock pebbles, coins, etc. It's very possible that these would be discontinued shortly. Just like the ProTeam FreeFlex, the Oreck/Hoover cordless bagged upright, and the Shop-Vac Easylift. But I hope that wouldn't be the case.

 

[vacuumman]

Fan

The fan setup on this vacuum is quite similar to the Air-Way DirtMaster, with a belt-driven fan being contained in the handle hinge.

 

[luxlife]

Are you sure it’s a belt driven fan??

One can’t always tell by the schematics.

 

[blackheart]

well

TBH not entirely certain of it, but i think so. I thought the motor would be on the side opposite of the intake initially due to the placement of the airpath but then i looked a little closer at the schematic and it appears that the fan attaches to a pulley. I'm curious to see how this rather....odd design does.
It's very possible that i'm incorrect but I guess time will tell.

 

[luxlife]

Looking forward to seeing in person.

I’ll be eager to see the inside of this one. I was fascinated with the Sensor models.

 

[panasonicvac]

I think the design inside reminds me of a Hoover Elite, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where they got it from.

 

[rugsucker]

"-belt driveen fan??"

It does seem to show belts number 125 & 151.That would make this brand new,modern,state of the art technology except, as above, AirWay did this in 1937.

 

[panasonicvac]

Eh sort of. If you notice other than the direct air motor, everything else is basically a Sebo Mechanical. So nothing very new or special. Also this wouldn't be the only direct air machine ever invented with a lifetime belt and breaker to shut the machine off if something were to get stuck on the brushroll. Riccar/Simplicity, Oreck, Proteam, etc.

 

[vacuumdevil]

@manchestervacs

SEBO USA still doesn't have price and availability.

We discussed this in detail weeks ago in the vacuum Discord server.


https://discord.gg/7EHTc9Tp

 

[panasonicvac]

Found a video of one on YouTube, sounds similar to an Oreck.

 

[manchestervacs]

The official launch of this machine in the UK is on Wednesday.

Here's a short teaser video.

 

[tolivac]

Will this vacuum be introduced in the US?I WANT ONE!!!

 

[mixman]

Count me in on a US version. May even have to import a UK model if it does not come here for a long while.

 

[manchestervacs]

The machine officially launches tomorrow so I can now share more information.

There's now a product information video up I have done, you can find it at the link below.

 

[mike811]

Now that's proper cordless upright. I want one so badly! Brushroll looks like it's identical what I have in my Sebo Felix. I am very surprised that it uses direct air system.

 

[mixman]

Now I know why it may be a while for this to show up in the US. It is 875GBP. You can buy an X7 and a Felix plus have spare change for that amount in the UK. Here it would be damn near $2,000, which would price it out the market, yet the corded version only costs $399 here.

 

[tolivac]

If that Sebo vacuum is going to be $2000 in the US--forget it.You can get Titan,Simplicity and Riccar cordless uprights for less than half the cost of the Sebo.In Greenville the dealer here is a Sebo dealer.He also carries Titan,Simplicity and Riccar.For 2 grand the Sebo machine is priced out of market compared to others.

 

[mike811]

I never understand why Sebo and Miele are so expensive in the US. I am quite upset about it.
If this new cordless Sebo is insanely expensive in US many collectors probably import it from UK or Germany.

 

[eurekaprince]

It makes sense that these cordless uprights use a “fan first” configuration. This set up is less of a drain on the battery as you do not need such powerful suction to get the dirt off the carpet and up into the bag. Half the work removing the dirt comes from the spinning brush roll.

 

[panasonicvac]

Hmm

This sound very similar to the now discontunied ProTeam FreeFlex and why that product failed in the market. The corded version was like maybe less than $700 yet the cordless version was about $1500! If the same similar thing happens to Sebo, then I don't see them being around in the market for very long either.