When is someone going to attempt to do a test re subsurface
Hi,
Henrique, most respectfully, sorry, but I have to agree -- you vacuum way too fast. The object is to let the machine do the work. Also, a very boring detail, but for an upright used at a more relaxed pace, four passes per square foot is said to constitute "thorough" cleaning.
Unfortunately, picking up oatmeal and rice doesn't prove much. I have a 30 buck Dirt Devil stick that will get oatmeal and rice off the top of my carpeting in short order. What's needs to be known is how well either of the machines your demonstrating get at grit and dirt that gets worked down into the rug by everyday household traffic. And that kind of stuff is what promotes carpet wear -- not the fluff, dust and debris you merely suck up off the top of a rug. If you're going to spend money, deep cleaning is certainly worth the paying for.
However, testing for that is usually done by weighing the material you'll use as a "soil" facsimile, vacuuming and then reweighing the vacuum bag or dust container to learn exactly how much of what you put down on the test rug was recovered by the vacuum you used.
A lot of tests do not prove much about a vacuum cleaner. I know this because I signed on to do demos at a local Sears spring of last year and had to the, "Oh look, this little machine can hold up a bowling ball!" schtick. I managed to do it with a straight face because I really needed the money.
Kirbys, especially the latter G models are darned good. However, if they are to be challenged it should be more over the issue of price. Their price is high NOT because the cleaners are phenomenally expensive to produce but because of an expected return for the door-to-door people they send out (let loose?) in the field. While I was in college I bought a Tradition way back in the late '70s -- brand new and legal with the aid of a legitimate vacuum shop -- for $350, about the cost the distributors charged vendors for stock at the time. My estimate could be off a little but I don't think I'd be too far off the beam if I guesstimated the actual cost from distributor to vendor to now be somewhere near the $625 mark. Lay that against the price your last Kirby DTD person laid on you and do the math. Even if the actual cost of a Kirby is 50-percent of the sale price, its still way too much.
I won't commit to an actual price estimate for either make but I'd say the same scenario applies to Rainbow and Aerus. Selling is all about what the market will bear -- not about fair profit or being "nice" to the folks you're looking to get money from.
Venson
Hi,
Henrique, most respectfully, sorry, but I have to agree -- you vacuum way too fast. The object is to let the machine do the work. Also, a very boring detail, but for an upright used at a more relaxed pace, four passes per square foot is said to constitute "thorough" cleaning.
Unfortunately, picking up oatmeal and rice doesn't prove much. I have a 30 buck Dirt Devil stick that will get oatmeal and rice off the top of my carpeting in short order. What's needs to be known is how well either of the machines your demonstrating get at grit and dirt that gets worked down into the rug by everyday household traffic. And that kind of stuff is what promotes carpet wear -- not the fluff, dust and debris you merely suck up off the top of a rug. If you're going to spend money, deep cleaning is certainly worth the paying for.
However, testing for that is usually done by weighing the material you'll use as a "soil" facsimile, vacuuming and then reweighing the vacuum bag or dust container to learn exactly how much of what you put down on the test rug was recovered by the vacuum you used.
A lot of tests do not prove much about a vacuum cleaner. I know this because I signed on to do demos at a local Sears spring of last year and had to the, "Oh look, this little machine can hold up a bowling ball!" schtick. I managed to do it with a straight face because I really needed the money.
Kirbys, especially the latter G models are darned good. However, if they are to be challenged it should be more over the issue of price. Their price is high NOT because the cleaners are phenomenally expensive to produce but because of an expected return for the door-to-door people they send out (let loose?) in the field. While I was in college I bought a Tradition way back in the late '70s -- brand new and legal with the aid of a legitimate vacuum shop -- for $350, about the cost the distributors charged vendors for stock at the time. My estimate could be off a little but I don't think I'd be too far off the beam if I guesstimated the actual cost from distributor to vendor to now be somewhere near the $625 mark. Lay that against the price your last Kirby DTD person laid on you and do the math. Even if the actual cost of a Kirby is 50-percent of the sale price, its still way too much.
I won't commit to an actual price estimate for either make but I'd say the same scenario applies to Rainbow and Aerus. Selling is all about what the market will bear -- not about fair profit or being "nice" to the folks you're looking to get money from.
Venson
