Sanitaire S490A -- Original Power Nozzle?

[eluxfan71]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980

Yes right, on the bags you see all Brands and mdels they had
including for Hoover, Braun etc.
Will make a pic of it. Progress was especially in Germany.

 

[eluxfan71]

Wow. All these years I've thought Progress was French.

In France beside Electrolux/Lux (direct sale) they had mainly Tornado. If you search „aspirateur Tornado“ you can find many pics

 

[vacerator]

Tornado is wat I should have remembered.

 

[cheesewonton]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980.

fhp.fi in Finland has synthetic HEPA dust bags for many of these old Volta, Progress, Electrolux and AEG models that ended up in the US sold as Eureka or Sanitaire models. Example, the S6982 / 6983 / 6984 series, in the US you only find crummy paper bags but if you look at fhp.fi in their listing of dust bags you will see one for the Volta Gemini U2800 series that fits and is a nice synthetic dust bag. Same for these old S490s, I see electropapa on the German eBay website among other sells a synthetic bag for them. You just have to poke around a big. fhp.fi ships to the US btw and they are nice to deal with. They also have a synthetic dust bag that fits the Eureka HP / Walmart GE canister, the dark green one. In Europe that vacuum was the Volta Elyps or Electrolux Mondo and you find good quality Menalux bags for it listed for the Mondo.
For shippers in the EU who don't ship direct to the US I use a freight forwarder called ColisExpat. You have the seller ship to one of their warehouses in Europe ( UK, France, Germany and Italy ) and once the package arrives they ship it off to you in the US. Great service.

 

[eurekaprince]

Here’s a great historical overview of the Progress company by a vacuum fan in Germany. I’ll never forget seeing one of those 1980’s Progress electric brooms labelled as a Eureka in one of our vacuum stores in Toronto. Here’s the website: https://www.staubsauger-progress.de

 

[eluxfan71]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980.

This was one of the first Progress sold under Volta/Electrolux after 1980

 

[paul]

I rebooted my braincell. The Sanitaire S490A was made in Germany based on the Electrolux Z457. In the US it was sold with a Vibragroomer power nozzle. The hose is unique inasmuch as it has the three lug Electrolux canister connection ( also many Nilfisk hoses shared this connection ). The Sanitaire version has a big two stage Ametek motor.
The other European sourced Sanitaire canister vacuums were Hungarian made, the SP6950 / 6951 / 6952 System Pro series that came in suction only form / with an Express power nozzle / with a Rugmaster power nozzle respectively. Last there was a Sanitaire braded version of the Oxygen canister.

Btw, if by chance anyone has a wiring diagram for the S490A or for the Z457 I could really use it. Thanks

Here's a video of the Z457 upon which the S490A is based.

Hesco may have the wiring diagram, or you could contact a Sanitaire Service Center: https://www.sanitairecommercial.com...FFoODE1lpDyopyQD-bxt-RwloOe6FKOmclGjfisOx87gC

 

[paul]

Hi Ben,

The only online information I was able to locate were the attached Hesco schematics for the Sanitaire Power Team model-types S485-A & S490-A & B and for the commercial power nozzles.

I intended to include these, too:

 

[cheesewonton]

Hesco may have the wiring diagram, or you could contact a Sanitaire Service Center: https://www.sanitairecommercial.com...FFoODE1lpDyopyQD-bxt-RwloOe6FKOmclGjfisOx87gC

Did both. No joy. Sanitaire has no data on anything that old.

Funny story my vac shop owner and long time Sanitaire dealer friend told me. When Bissell bought Sanitaire the people at Sanitaire were so offended they basically destroyed, erased, shredded or managed to loose every bit of data they had. Bissell had to resort to internet and phone book searches to figure out who the Sanitaire dealers were and then contact each of them to figure out what the terms of any contract they had were, what their line of credit was, how much they owed, what parts or vacuums they had on order and the like. The original Sanitaire employees refused to talk to people from Bissell.

 

[vacerator]

The above schematic is the Vibragrromer 1. I saw a few different Sanitaire powerteams on E-bay with either the V-groomer II, III, world Vac style, and the final O3 types.

 

[cheesewonton]

A little plea to our European cousins. If anyone has a wiring schematic for an Electrolux Z457, the vacuum on which the Sanitaire S490A is based, or has some photos of what wire goes where on the main board I would be deeply appreciative. Thanks.

 

[paul]

A little plea to our European cousins. If anyone has a wiring schematic for an Electrolux Z457, the vacuum on which the Sanitaire S490A is based, or has some photos of what wire goes where on the main board I would be deeply appreciative. Thanks.

How many Sanitaire Service Centers did you contact? In the past when I've searched for items (albeit unrelated to surface care appliances) I have contacted different ones until I've achieved my mission. I find it hard to believe that if you took your S490A to a SSC that the techs would not know how to get it working. Some service manuals likely were not tossed or shredded when Bissell took over, and when found were probably copied and distributed to the service centers.

Of course, another option would just be to request an owner of an S490A or Z457 to take photos of the wiring for you.

 

[eluxfan71]

How many Sanitaire Service Centers did you contact? In the past when I've searched for items (albeit unrelated to surface care appliances) I have contacted different ones until I've achieved my mission. I find it hard to believe that if you took your S490A to a SSC that the techs would not know how to get it working. Some service manuals likely were not tossed or shredded when Bissell took over, and when found were probably copied and distributed to the service centers.

Of course, another option would just be to request an owner of an S490A or Z457 to take photos of the wiring for you.

Have only one from the Electrolux Z490 (Automatic power control)