Sanitaire S490A -- Original Power Nozzle?

[kirbyclassiciii]

Does anybody remember what power nozzle came with the Sanitaire S490A canister?

Was it the Roto-Matic Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer II, or the Express Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer III?

~Ben

 

[cheesewonton]

Does anybody remember what power nozzle came with the Sanitaire S490A canister?

Was it the Roto-Matic Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer II, or the Express Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer III?

~Ben

Express style. Do you have an S490A?

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Express style. Do you have an S490A?

No, but I was asking this to help someone else. Thank you!

~Ben

 

[cheesewonton]

No, but I was asking this to help someone else. Thank you!

~Ben

I have one but when I went to disassemble it to clean it a bunch of brass wire connectors broke as I was ever so gently taking it apart and now I don't know what wire goes where to put it back together. If your friend ever takes his apart I would sure like some images of how it is wired so I can get mine back together properly. It has been sitting on a dresser mocking me for two years now, as if to say "hey dummy, when ya gonna get me up and running again?" Can't find a wiring diagram for it anywhere so hoping someone somewhere might be taking one apart so I can see how it supposed to be wired up.

 

[cheesewonton]

Does anybody remember what power nozzle came with the Sanitaire S490A canister?

Was it the Roto-Matic Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer II, or the Express Power Team style with the Vibra-Groomer III?

~Ben

I messed up Ben. The brain cell fired later tonight. The S490 came with a gray Vibragroomer with blue Sanitaire script.

 

[eurekaprince]

I messed up Ben. The brain cell fired later tonight. The S490 came with a gray Vibragroomer with blue Sanitaire script.

I am trying to picture the Sanitaire S490. Does someone have a picture of the cleaner and the power nozzle? And was it an Express power nozzle?

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

I am trying to picture the Sanitaire S490. Does someone have a picture of the cleaner and the power nozzle? And was it an Express power nozzle?

Brian,

FWIW, here's a pack of disposable bags for this model.

By the illustration, it appears to have had the older-style Roto-Matic Power Team nozzle with the VGII.
https://www.ebay.com/p/732855062

~Ben

 

[eurekaprince]

I know…I saw that…but the bags are made in Sweden….which means it’s not a regular American Eureka Bloomington design…the only European made Sanitaire canister I ever saw was a rebranded AEG canister married to an Express Power Nozzle….but I think that was made in Germany - it had two doors on the sides to store the tools including a European radiator brush.

 

[cheesewonton]

I rebooted my braincell. The Sanitaire S490A was made in Germany based on the Electrolux Z457. In the US it was sold with a Vibragroomer power nozzle. The hose is unique inasmuch as it has the three lug Electrolux canister connection ( also many Nilfisk hoses shared this connection ). The Sanitaire version has a big two stage Ametek motor.
The other European sourced Sanitaire canister vacuums were Hungarian made, the SP6950 / 6951 / 6952 System Pro series that came in suction only form / with an Express power nozzle / with a Rugmaster power nozzle respectively. Last there was a Sanitaire braded version of the Oxygen canister.

Btw, if by chance anyone has a wiring diagram for the S490A or for the Z457 I could really use it. Thanks

Here's a video of the Z457 upon which the S490A is based.

 

[cheesewonton]

Here is the Z460. Slightly upmarket with automatic power control

 

[cheesewonton]

I know…I saw that…but the bags are made in Sweden….which means it’s not a regular American Eureka Bloomington design…the only European made Sanitaire canister I ever saw was a rebranded AEG canister married to an Express Power Nozzle….but I think that was made in Germany - it had two doors on the sides to store the tools including a European radiator brus

The vacuum with the attachment cubbies on the sides is the Sanitaire SP6950 / 6951 / 6952 series, based on the AEG P3 System Pro. They were made in an Electrolux Group factory in Hungary. The SP6950 is suction only. The SP6951 came in red with plastic wands and an Express power nozzle. The SP6952 came in a nice metallic blue with steel button lock wands and a Rugmaster power nozzle. They used a VM3 suction motor. They use the OX dust bag.

This is one of my two SP6552s. This one is original. The other is my working model with an Ametek 119539 motor I finagled in it.

 

[rugsucker]

I have genuine, original vac store display stands for above and similar models.Just some of many great vac items that need to go one way or another.
Jimmy 423-268-4841

 

[vacerator]

I remember those, and forgot about that Sanitaire. I know AEG was German and under E-Lux AB. Made in Germany?

 

[paul]

Hi Ben,

The only online information I was able to locate were the attached Hesco schematics for the Sanitaire Power Team model-types S485-A & S490-A & B and for the commercial power nozzles.

 

[eurekaprince]

Eureka! I found it!

This German-made Electrolux was originally made by the German Progress vacuum company….After Electrolux AB of Sweden gobbled up Progress, they started to relabel some of the Progress cleaners as Electrolux, Eureka and Sanitaire…the latter two brandnames slapped onto 120-volt versions of Progress cleaners for sale in North America. In Canada, we even saw a Progress cleaner branded as Beaumark for our Hudson Bay department store. The main trigger for me to make the connection to Progress is the unique layout of the large buttons and cord reel port on the rear of the cleaner. That’s a Progress design, not Electrolux. See this video for a similar Progress cleaner:

 

[cheesewonton]

I remember those, and forgot about that Sanitaire. I know AEG was German and under E-Lux AB. Made in Germany?

Some like my System Pro were made in Hungary

 

[cheesewonton]

Eureka! I found it!

This German-made Electrolux was originally made by the German Progress vacuum company….After Electrolux AB of Sweden gobbled up Progress, they started to relabel some of the Progress cleaners as Electrolux, Eureka and Sanitaire…the latter two brandnames slapped onto 120-volt versions of Progress cleaners for sale in North America. In Canada, we even saw a Progress cleaner branded as Beaumark for our Hudson Bay department store. The main trigger for me to make the connection to Progress is the unique layout of the large buttons and cord reel port on the rear of the cleaner. That’s a Progress design, not Electrolux. See this video for a similar Progress cleaner:

I bought one of those very same Progress models for parts for my S490A and discovered they are actually very different inside. Also really bad plastics on the Progress.

 

[eluxfan71]

Eureka! I found it!

This German-made Electrolux was originally made by the German Progress vacuum company….After Electrolux AB of Sweden gobbled up Progress, they started to relabel some of the Progress cleaners as Electrolux, Eureka and Sanitaire…the latter two brandnames slapped onto 120-volt versions of Progress cleaners for sale in North America. In Canada, we even saw a Progress cleaner branded as Beaumark for our Hudson Bay department store. The main trigger for me to make the connection to Progress is the unique layout of the large buttons and cord reel port on the rear of the cleaner. That’s a Progress design, not Electrolux. See this video for a similar Progress cleaner:

The German made models i suppose they came from the Progress factory. But there were also models made in Sweden back than. For example the European Z450. Suppose it was depending from country to country and which brand they used. There were also models as Volta.
The very first Volta for example was based on the „original“ Progress design. Later it was adapted with a new design and components from Electrolux.

 

[eurekaprince]

The German made models i suppose they came from the Progress factory. But there were also models made in Sweden back than. For example the European Z450. Suppose it was depending from country to country and which brand they used. There were also models as Volta.
The very first Volta for example was based on the „original“ Progress design. Later it was adapted with a new design and components from Electrolux.

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980.

 

[vacerator]

Wow. All these years I've thought Progress was French.

 

[eluxfan71]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980

Yes right, on the bags you see all Brands and mdels they had
including for Hoover, Braun etc.
Will make a pic of it. Progress was especially in Germany.

 

[eluxfan71]

Wow. All these years I've thought Progress was French.

In France beside Electrolux/Lux (direct sale) they had mainly Tornado. If you search „aspirateur Tornado“ you can find many pics

 

[vacerator]

Tornado is wat I should have remembered.

 

[cheesewonton]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980.

fhp.fi in Finland has synthetic HEPA dust bags for many of these old Volta, Progress, Electrolux and AEG models that ended up in the US sold as Eureka or Sanitaire models. Example, the S6982 / 6983 / 6984 series, in the US you only find crummy paper bags but if you look at fhp.fi in their listing of dust bags you will see one for the Volta Gemini U2800 series that fits and is a nice synthetic dust bag. Same for these old S490s, I see electropapa on the German eBay website among other sells a synthetic bag for them. You just have to poke around a big. fhp.fi ships to the US btw and they are nice to deal with. They also have a synthetic dust bag that fits the Eureka HP / Walmart GE canister, the dark green one. In Europe that vacuum was the Volta Elyps or Electrolux Mondo and you find good quality Menalux bags for it listed for the Mondo.
For shippers in the EU who don't ship direct to the US I use a freight forwarder called ColisExpat. You have the seller ship to one of their warehouses in Europe ( UK, France, Germany and Italy ) and once the package arrives they ship it off to you in the US. Great service.

 

[eurekaprince]

Here’s a great historical overview of the Progress company by a vacuum fan in Germany. I’ll never forget seeing one of those 1980’s Progress electric brooms labelled as a Eureka in one of our vacuum stores in Toronto. Here’s the website: https://www.staubsauger-progress.de

 

[eluxfan71]

Yes - while Googling the German words “staubsauger Progress” to find images of various Progress cleaners, I came upon many websites showing the dustbags for this model. There were dustbag packages that listed all the Progress and Volta and Electrolux models that would take a single dust bag style. I also found out that AB Electrolux bought Progress in 1980.

This was one of the first Progress sold under Volta/Electrolux after 1980

 

[paul]

I rebooted my braincell. The Sanitaire S490A was made in Germany based on the Electrolux Z457. In the US it was sold with a Vibragroomer power nozzle. The hose is unique inasmuch as it has the three lug Electrolux canister connection ( also many Nilfisk hoses shared this connection ). The Sanitaire version has a big two stage Ametek motor.
The other European sourced Sanitaire canister vacuums were Hungarian made, the SP6950 / 6951 / 6952 System Pro series that came in suction only form / with an Express power nozzle / with a Rugmaster power nozzle respectively. Last there was a Sanitaire braded version of the Oxygen canister.

Btw, if by chance anyone has a wiring diagram for the S490A or for the Z457 I could really use it. Thanks

Here's a video of the Z457 upon which the S490A is based.

Hesco may have the wiring diagram, or you could contact a Sanitaire Service Center: https://www.sanitairecommercial.com...FFoODE1lpDyopyQD-bxt-RwloOe6FKOmclGjfisOx87gC

 

[paul]

Hi Ben,

The only online information I was able to locate were the attached Hesco schematics for the Sanitaire Power Team model-types S485-A & S490-A & B and for the commercial power nozzles.

I intended to include these, too:

 

[cheesewonton]

Hesco may have the wiring diagram, or you could contact a Sanitaire Service Center: https://www.sanitairecommercial.com...FFoODE1lpDyopyQD-bxt-RwloOe6FKOmclGjfisOx87gC

Did both. No joy. Sanitaire has no data on anything that old.

Funny story my vac shop owner and long time Sanitaire dealer friend told me. When Bissell bought Sanitaire the people at Sanitaire were so offended they basically destroyed, erased, shredded or managed to loose every bit of data they had. Bissell had to resort to internet and phone book searches to figure out who the Sanitaire dealers were and then contact each of them to figure out what the terms of any contract they had were, what their line of credit was, how much they owed, what parts or vacuums they had on order and the like. The original Sanitaire employees refused to talk to people from Bissell.

 

[vacerator]

The above schematic is the Vibragrromer 1. I saw a few different Sanitaire powerteams on E-bay with either the V-groomer II, III, world Vac style, and the final O3 types.