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When I got my second hoover junor I bought some generic round belts for it and they just snapped with in a few seconds, I am not even jokeing, so i went threw the pack of ten they came in within 3 days, my friend bought me a twin pack of genuine hoover junior belts that said on them "longer life" on the back of the packaging, I put the genuine one on the junior on saturday, it is now wednesday and it sarted makeing this dem du dem du noise and before I could turn the cleaner off it went dem eeeeeeeee so the belt had clearly stapped, I took out the snapped belt and put in the other genuine one out of the packet, and within about 30 to 4o seconds of use that dem du dem du noise started again and them dem eeeeee and it snapped!

What is going on these are genuine "long life" belts and they are snapping like this? was this a common problem with round belts or are mine snapping because there is something wrong with my junior?

can anyone help?
 
I've had the same Genuine HOOVER belt in my Ranger since January and it still works brilliantly (it's cracked and split in a lot of places but is still holding up).

It sounds like the brush roll is sticking somehow.

Try spinning the brush roll without the belt attached. It should spin freely. If there is any dragging, report back and I'll try to help further.
 
I'd say your bearings in the brushroll are shot, or the belts you got were a bad batch...

The weird thing about Hoover brushroll bearings is they feel loose and wobbly when you check them, even when new, so you can't really tell when they're shot, it's only when they're running that they dhow signs of failure, and this sounds lie they've gone to me, so, better to be safe than beltless and get a new set of bearings (see link below) and replace the old ones... :)

One other thing that pops into my head is the pulley, sometimes that can get worn down until it's thin and slipping a lot, that could also affect the belt life if it's too worn, my 1346 had that issue and ate belts regardless of how it was set up...

http://www.vacuumcleanersparesuk.co...WD=junior bearing&PN=HOOVER_.html#a1397#a1397
 
Yep, that was the problem I think.

Alex decided in the end to swap the brush roll over for another one and he informed me it is working well now.
 
I think it is fixed now, fingers crossed!

Ok, so I took the brushroll that my u1012 came with initially, and put it back in the 1012 because even after lubricating the bearings on the other brushroll, it didn't seam to want to move freely.
The reason I changed the brushroll out was because it was a little rusty and the brissle had gone short over the years, so seamed easier just to swap the entire brushroll. It didn't accure to me to check the brushroll bearings, because the junior it came out of was re furbished, lol.

So now I kept the original brushroll and bearings but swapped the brush strips over and now everything seams ok, the motor shaft is not worn at all either, by the way.

When I was sorting the brush roll out earlier, my sister walked past and said "Alex, why do you keep messing about with that bloody Hoover!? It is old crap just throw it out"
I was like no!!! Typical remark from an individual who does not appreciate these fine pieces of machineary! It is 36 years old, what does she expect, it is bound to have some issues.

Why some people are so ignorant into believing that just because it is old, that means it is useless and will not work as it should, well with the correct maintenance it should work like brand new till the end? Well that is what I believe.

Anyway I have ranted enough, so I will leave it there.
 
Yep, the standard opinion of a "general consumer", as I always say.

They don't appreciate the maintenance it takes to keep a vintage Vacuum Cleaner going and certainly don't appreciate how well they work.

I was in my local recycling store an hour ago and saw a blue Dyson cylinder (don't know the model number, don't really care) for £45 and wasn't in the least bit interested.

I did however see a commercial "tub" Vacuum Cleaner in a dark blue/almost black colour, a Vax I believe, which I was interested in but didn't have enough to buy (£40).
 
When people ask me why I bother with "that old crap" (in reference to pretty much anything I have collected), I tell them that it's already outlived their "new crap" and will outlive every other bit of "new crap" they buy to replace the ones that break, that usually shuts them up... :P
 
"When people ask me why I bother with "that old crap" (in reference to pretty much anything I have collected), I tell them that it's already outlived their "new crap" and will outlive every other bit of "new crap" they buy to replace the ones that break, that usually shuts them up... :P" I imagine it would!

True too...
 
I love the hoover juniors, they may not be very powerful but they get the job done and get it done extremely well.
I was useing the u1012 today and that belt seams to be going strong and it is not extreamly hot after a few seconds like before, so obviously swapping the brushrolls has really made a difference, it also sounds better now, more high pitched, I wondered why before the motor was lower in pitch than it should be and obviously the sticky brushroll was the perpetrator.
 
Well it all depends on what one wants and expects from whatever it happens to be. I have just replaced my Sona Touch & Go automatic kettle which I bought about 30 years ago and was still going strong until it started leaking. So I bought a new one, it cost me under £20 and will probably last a year or two if I am lucky. However, it is a darn sight better than my old Sona kettle, as it boils just a small amount of water and in no time at all. I feel like I have been a fool to myself all these years by not bothering to treat myself to something which works and looks so much better than what I had. How long something lasts is only one way of measuring the overall success or failure of an appliance.

We also need to remember that in these very difficult times, those who are blessed with having a job are having to work harder than ever and I see nothing wrong in people treating themselves to new things. The environmental issues may be present, but sales are also needed to keep the economy afloat. And as I have said so many times, not many people have the skills to mend things. Some people also quite rightly put a price on their time too. So to a good deal of folk it is not 'worth' their free time to put things right.
 
Some things may work better these days, but as you said, they don't last near as long!

It just depends if you want to "put up" with something that doesn't work as effectively but lasts years or enjoy something which works well but packs up quickly and costs a fortune in the long run to replace all the time.
 
At £20 I would be happy to replace my kettle every year. As it is, it came with a 2 year guarantee but that's a different story. I just love it, it's so much better than I could have hoped for.
 
£20 for a kettle is one thing to replace every couple of years, but buying a Dyson (heaven only knows why) at a price tag as high as £350 and will last you about 5-8 years is just ridiculous in my opinion and maybe they are more conveniant but they are not built as well, will not clean as well and is just wasting your money all together.

Most products are made almost disposable these days, the manufactures today purposely build appliances to last only a couple of years so they can continue to take money from your pocket.

However we have to appreciate these appliances that last us only a few years keep our houses in check while they are still operating.
 
I think if one likes something, can afford it, and it does the job well, it's not a crime. Though the point about a £350 cleaner lasting five years is well made. I see that. Then again, of course Dyson do guarantee the cleaner for that period, which helps. I am not keen on the new Dyson machines but that is entirely personal and subjective. I don't hold it against anyone who wants one.

Buying a kettle annually would go against the grain, but only because of the way things were when I grew up. Hence my old Sona. Though I must admit when I lived with my wife we had another one, some awful bramble patterned thing, which worked OK I suppose. I think it was a Russell Hobbs. The speed of my new kettle has amazed me. I do like it.
 
Old Is Better If You Can Get It

Here, here VR - well said. I wholeheartedly agree - but it depends on where you live also. If you have a local shop or recycling/second hand shop in town who sells older appliances, they usually last a lot longer. I have a 10 year old Russell Hobbs traditional kettle. It isn't by any means faster than more modern plastic jug kettles but the stainless steel body keeps the water hotter with less need to keep reboiling it. It isn't the most old fashioned but it is certainly robust.

Of course not all things old are good, it depends on the age of the actual appliance and the availability of spares/parts at the time. I guess this is one reason alone to why there's a lot of people in my old town who have old Singer sewing machines - compared to Janome/Brother and the other Japanese brands, Singer parts are far wider to get and maintain existing machines.
 
kettle

20 quid for a kettle you can get one for a fiver in morrisons it boils water just the same sez he who is using a 1977 russell hobs wedding present ha
 
Nah. I wouldn't touch Morrisons electricals. My mum bought their electric can opener and it is useless. Neighbour bought the hand mixer and the chrome beaters flaked off chrome in baking mixtures. Much prefer our 15 year old Rowenta one with knife sharpeners at the back or Kenwood's old blocky one.
 

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