Quantum Wet/Dry Vac (Rainbow copy)

[electroluxxxx]

Actually Matthew, for one I work for rainbow, to make it true your statement is false reguarding the HEPA filter. As a matter of fact we have people that have had their rainbows for YEARS with little to no dust and debris in their HEPA filters and their machines are maintained and used constantly. Also our machines do not require service every 180 hours, however we do recommend that they come in for cleanings and service every 5-10 years which includes a certified HEPA filter. As far as your 5 year warranty goes I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to get any parts covered under warranty let alone all machines should be cleaned and serviced regularly to keep them running at optimum performance and shipping the machine to and from one place to the other can be quite expensive. Also explain the micro silver technology as I'm having a hard time completely understanding what micro silver technonogy is. We at rainbow are CERTIFIED by asthma and allergy foundation and are highly recommended by allergy doctors all over the world.

 

[n0oxy]

comparing the quantum with other water filtration machines

When it comes to water filtration machines, you definitely want one with a separator, the machines with no separator will be a mess to clean. I think the Quantum, Sirena and Hila all use the same motor so the performance would be similar.
Mike

 

[mark40511]

Agreed -

definitely has to have a separator. I still can't imagine any water vacuum with a separator claiming the separator never needs to be cleaned or needs to be cleaned rarely. I know Hyla's is self-cleaning supposedly....although I'm not sure how.. I know there is a major difference in the material on the Rainbow's separator vs the Sirena. The Rainbows is heavier, thicker and made of some type of material that is more slick feeling. I clean the separator after every use to be safe, but the rainbows separator does take a few uses to get dirty..while the sirena's is dirty on the first use. Also, the slots are father apart on the sirena separator. The Rainbows is really close together

 

[kirbyvertibles]

I really want a Quantum and a sirena some day I will bite the bucket and get both.

I just recently bought a used Big Power at a flea market. I've not tried it out yet but it does look like a mess to clean out as it does not have the separator and a 1,000 parts to clean however I've heard fairly good things about them.
I'd like to have one example of each water vac out there.

 

[n0oxy]

cleaning the separator

I'm very hesitant to believe Hila's claim that you never have to clean the separator. Every time I use my rainbow or Sirena, the basin goes in to the sink and I remove the separator and wash it along with the basin. I've heard the Delphin machines are really good as well but have not been able to find one, I had thought about getting a Hila but the reviews I have seen seem to indicate that they are not as good as the Rainbow or Sirena. If you want a bagless machine, these are the way to go though because they don't have the problems that plague most bagless machines, dust clouds everywhere and clogged filters.
Mike

 

[quantumvac]

Hello All,

Matthew here again. Electroluxxxx, can you explain what you meant by "to make it true your statement is false regarding the HEPA filter"? I've heard stories of people who don't vacuum often not needing to change out their HEPA filter nearly as often, but the 6-12 months is the recommended timeline.

First, our machine doesn't need to be serviced every 180 hours, and I'm honestly not sure where that ever came from. The Warranty will cover all parts and labor for 5 years from the date of purchase, and yes, the customer would be responsible for shipping the faulty part to us, but we would cover the return shipping. As I had noted in my last response as well, we are working towards building our distributor base, which means our Authorized Service Centers are becoming more readily available in peoples areas.

As for the Micro Silver technology, it's been used in the medical field for years, embedded into surgical equipment and onto bandages for burn victims. The reason being for this is that microscopic silver particles have the ability to pierce the air sacs of pathogens and suffocating them. By embedding this technology in the basin of our machine, as the water circulates in the basin these micro silver particles are suffocating the pathogens in the water, and reducing the amount of pathogens in the air by over 99%.

Also yes, we do have a separator in the machine that is recommended to be maintained every 5-7 months. Of course, it's always better to clean it regularly, just like checking on the rotating brushes.

 

[kirbyvertibles]

Ok I just bought one. They have a great online offer right now where you also get the mini power nozzle and wet pick up set free!!! Oh did I mention free shipping and depending on your state no tax!!!

 

[kirbyvertibles]

Thanks Matt for being so helpful on the website.

 

[mark40511]

I know all about silver

A long time ago my cat had an infected paw pad. Not sure how it even got that way but it was swollen and infected. Before taking her to the vet I went to a cat forum asking for help. Someone said to go to a health food store and get colloidal silver, which I did......I gave some to her and the next day the infection started going away......2nd day even more, Each day improved. I keep a bottle of it. It's like a natural antibiotic and it really does work.....so it doesn't surprise me if silver is part of the basin or whatever that it kills pathogens. I think a Samsung front load washer at one point had something called Silver care where silver was somehow in the drum material or something.

The service every 180 hours came from me - I had read it somewhere on their website or a YouTube video or something like that. I can't remember.

If you just bought a Quantum vac - Let us know what you think of it. If it were me, I would clean the separator after every use and change the water before it gets too thick with crud, just like Rainbow (just to be safe) They say not to use essential oil in Rainbow because it can crack the basin, but for years, I've used Eucalyptus, Lemon and orange and I've never had a problem in rainbow or sirena and it smells 10x better than the manufacturer fragrances and no chemicals.

 

[kirbyvertibles]

I've been using oils for years too with no issues. I plan to clean it every use, Force of habit. I can't wait for it to get here

 

[quantumvac]

Essential Oils

We actually highly recommend essential oils like the ones Mark40511 listed: Eucalyptus, Lemon, Mint, Lavender, etc. Just nothing that can foam, and we don't recommend anything with synthetic materials, as it kind of defeats the purpose of purifying the air!

Kirbyvertibles, we're happy to be of service, and can't wait to hear what you think about the Quantum. We actually have a video idea that we feed to our customers called the #QuantumChallenge. We challenge you to take your old/other vacuum(s) and clean a space in your home, then take the Quantum to the same space and see the difference.

Obviously, the biggest differences would be between traditional vacuums vs water vacs, but we'll be happy to see how we stand against all those other water vacuums you have!

 

[cuffs054]

Mark, I know I've seen the 180hr service statement also.

 

[cuffs054]

Found it. But it's on the "Robot" video.



http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0YKdW6ZE2U

 

[mark40511]

That challenge

won't work because the last vacuum always wins. You could clean high and low with a Quantum or rainbow or Sirena or Dyson or whatever - then you could grab another cheap vacuum and it will still find dirt - making someone think the cheapest vacuum is the best - when in fact, no vacuum can get all the dirt, so each vacuum following that vacuum will find more dirt. I'm a water filtration vacuum freak. Had I not already bought a Sirena, I think the Quantum vac looks more appealing to me for some reason than Sirena.

 

[quantumvac]

The Challenge

I can understand where you're coming from in that the last vac always wins, but the point we try to make is how much dirt you're pulling, and where it's coming from. Due to the high power that water filtration machines bring, they don't just pull dirt from the carpet itself, but from the padding below and the floorboard beneath that. You may still grab some dirt with the last vacuum, but you can clearly see the difference in how much dirt is picked up!

 

[rainbowguy2016]

I was wondering why they had a wessel werk with the other machines but not with the Quantum vacuum?

 

[mark40511]

OK, this video

@ 9:12 it says after about 180 hrs of use, you should take it to dealer for maintenance. So this is where that came from.

 

[oldskoolguy]

To be honest...

I'm actually shocked that of all brands rainbow has to be copied! They sell their machines door to door, so it's a surprise to see it copied! Sanitaire has been copied, bissell has been copied, oreck (somewhat) has been copied, sebo and Windsor have been copied, and plenty of other brands! But to see that some of Hoover's better machines (like the guardsman/convertible/decade) have never been copied is somehow not surprising, by as for royal's all metal uprights and Kirby's vacuum not being copied, that's not surprising. I guess people copy other brands because it's innovative, or they just want to provide an alternative ( I guess) in the case of sanitaire. It's almost like some companies can't come up with anything original anymore (but that is up for debate, really)

 

[n0oxy]

copying rainbow

The rainbow is a good machine, but it's expensive, there's no getting around it. So, it would make sense to try and duplicate it at a cheaper price, the Sirena has definitely done this. It works just as well as a Rainbow at a third of the price, there are some differences of course, but nothing that really changes the cleaning performance.
Mike

 

[kirbyvertibles]

I got the Quantum yesterday. I will make a new post here in a little bit. Stay tuned. P.s as far as I can tell the power nozzle is a wessel werk with a different style hood.

 

[mericatz]

Found this thread searching for this type of vacuum. Years ago someone came to our door and demonstrated a Rainbow. I loved it but the price! Recently I came across the Sirena and now the others thanks to this thread. I went and saw the Sirena at a vacuum shop. The guy didn't know much about and gave a poor presentation of it. Amazon showed both positive and negative reviews. Never seen the Quantum. For the people here who have or tried both seem to favor the Rainbow. Are there reasons why? Intersted in knowing people's opinions about these type of vacs. Thanks!

 

[crazykirbydude]

I can see this ending up like the Keeler thread...

 

[lord_vacuum]

Rainbow HEPA Filter

Hello Mathew with quantumvac

I am a Rainbow owner and mine is equipped with the HEPA filter. I worked for Rainbow in 2009 and have had this machine since, using it often. A few years ago I tore down the motor housing after reading comments of how dirt gets caked inside the machine because the rainbow does not apparently filter the dirt and dust as the company claims. To my surprise, there was very little if any dust in the unit and the filter was still relatively white on both sides. I did run some water through it as my boss told me they were washable filters and could be air dried for 24-48hrs. The water was clear. I could not figure out how to re assemble the machine so I had to take it in to the Rainbow store and they put it back together and threw a new filter on for me. So essentially if this machine did not trap the dust and dirt as your president claims the HEPA filter should have been dirty, especially after years of cleaning with it. I suspect the only reason people need their rainbows cleaned out is if they vacuum with it to long. The water does evaporate over time and/or can get to thick with fur or dirt, hindering its ability to function as intended. Just wanted to clarify the misconception. I still prefer vacuuming with my Kirby to get the deep down dirt benethe the carpet, not just what is on top. Even with a full bag, the Kirby still generates 127cfm and 150cfm with a new bag. Vaclab on YouTube demonstrated a Kirby Avalir 2 pulling up all flour he poured beneath carpet on concrete. The Rainbow pulled up hardly any and he clocked the Rainbow’s power nozzle CFM at an embarrassing 8 CFM...I’m assuming the Quantum will produce similar performance in that area. However, if the Quantum can pull out all the flour from beneath carpet on concrete than I’d consider it. It would take a lot to sell me on a Quantum over my current set up. I will use the rainbow 2-4 times a week and the Kirby 2-3 times a month and purify the air with the rainbow nearly every day, especially in my bedroom before bed time.