carolinaguy1996
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I have autism too. I don't go crazy over vacs anymore, but I still talk about them on occasion.
Poor filtration on Shark vacuums
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Shark filtration
I don't think, that the Shark filtration is all that bad. Of course it's not good as the multi cyclonic vacuums have (my Vax/Hoover Air is multi cyclonic).
I did so called "big mess test" with my Shark Rotator Pro Lift Away NV500. I vacuumed two and half bin full of normal dust. Yes the filter got dirty, but not too bad in my opinion. And I vacuumed a lot in short amount of time.
Bin/cyclone is very easy to clean and I have two set of pre motor filters. So I can wash the one set and when those are drying I just use second set.
For example Dyson won't let you get access to the mini cyclones and you never know when they are getting clogged. Youtube is full of videos about clogged Dyson cyclones. Dyson might have the best cyclone system, but everything else is better in Shark (in my opinion).
So I personally like the Shark cyclone system, because you can always see if it needs cleaning.
Below pictures of my Shark foam pre motor filters after the "big mess test".
Note that the filter is always yellow, even when clean.
I don't think, that the Shark filtration is all that bad. Of course it's not good as the multi cyclonic vacuums have (my Vax/Hoover Air is multi cyclonic).
I did so called "big mess test" with my Shark Rotator Pro Lift Away NV500. I vacuumed two and half bin full of normal dust. Yes the filter got dirty, but not too bad in my opinion. And I vacuumed a lot in short amount of time.
Bin/cyclone is very easy to clean and I have two set of pre motor filters. So I can wash the one set and when those are drying I just use second set.
For example Dyson won't let you get access to the mini cyclones and you never know when they are getting clogged. Youtube is full of videos about clogged Dyson cyclones. Dyson might have the best cyclone system, but everything else is better in Shark (in my opinion).
So I personally like the Shark cyclone system, because you can always see if it needs cleaning.
Below pictures of my Shark foam pre motor filters after the "big mess test".
Note that the filter is always yellow, even when clean.
autism and vacuums
I've never been officially diagnosed, but some people think I may have some autistic traits too, I'm also a blind person, but, I do prefer that everything be in its place in my apartment, I don't like things out of order, and I love my routines, while I can handle it if things change, I don't like it. I've enjoyed vacuums ever since I was very young, even though I also don't like loud sounds, most vacuums don't bother me, the one exception is these newer vacuums that have the loud screaming jet sound, can't stand those. I also could never go to sleep or go out somewhere if dirty dishes were in the sink, the thought of that, well... it just doesn't work for me.
Mike
I've never been officially diagnosed, but some people think I may have some autistic traits too, I'm also a blind person, but, I do prefer that everything be in its place in my apartment, I don't like things out of order, and I love my routines, while I can handle it if things change, I don't like it. I've enjoyed vacuums ever since I was very young, even though I also don't like loud sounds, most vacuums don't bother me, the one exception is these newer vacuums that have the loud screaming jet sound, can't stand those. I also could never go to sleep or go out somewhere if dirty dishes were in the sink, the thought of that, well... it just doesn't work for me.
Mike
Include me too,people like many other animals are creatures of habit.Disrupt this and they can go out of whack.Before I go to sleep-I always check to make sure doors are locked and stuff not needed turned off.I also don't like the screamy-shreiky vacuums.
suckolux
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n0oxy, but for the blind part you sound a lot like me.
Youtube is full of videos about clogged Dyson cyclones.
And it all comes from people abusing them. Not cleaning filterS and not emptying before MAX. Dirty shroud reduces cyclones efficiency.
Everything else is better in Shark? It might have a lift away feature but I still would prefer to leave the vacuum on the bottom of my steps and use the hose to vacuum instead if carrying it.
You can vacuum under furniture with Shark, but floor head is bulky and you can't really vacuum easily around obstacles. You can always get tools to do the same with Dyson.
And it all comes from people abusing them. Not cleaning filterS and not emptying before MAX. Dirty shroud reduces cyclones efficiency.
Everything else is better in Shark? It might have a lift away feature but I still would prefer to leave the vacuum on the bottom of my steps and use the hose to vacuum instead if carrying it.
You can vacuum under furniture with Shark, but floor head is bulky and you can't really vacuum easily around obstacles. You can always get tools to do the same with Dyson.
Filters should be washed not clapped out
I have a shark rocket deluxe pro stick vacuum. I NEVER clap out the filters dry, only take them out right at the sink and wash them with dish soap like my kitchen sponge. Avoids the giant dust cloud and properly cleans the filters.
In commercial settings bagless vacuums are useless because most people aren’t going to clean the filters out but rather just dump the canister out and just leave the filter cleaning “for someone else to do” and then it rarely if ever gets done until the vacuum simply won’t pickup at all anymore, and still them some just won’t bother and let it be someone else’s problem. Users at home do it because there is no one else to finally pass the task off to and if they don’t they just throw the vacuum away and buy a new one. A commercial vacuum with an easy to change bag that seal itself and is foolproof fitting it in such as the Aerus products is about what’s needed. If the user notices it isn’t working and the bag is packed and the bag is sealed and simple to pull out and another one is available and drops right in with no special instructions then all but the laziest of people will do it because it’s not a hassle so they are less likely to pass the task on to someone else.
Just like cleaning hair off the brush roll... nasty job and no one likes to do it especially in a commercial setting, commercial vacs need to have self cleaning brush rolls for sure.
In my opinion all these bagless vacs should come with two sets of filters, so if one set clogs and has to be washed the spare set can be put in while the washed set is drying so the vacuum is always ready to go and or the job doesn’t have to be interrupted and delayed. People are clapping out dry dirty filters so they don’t have to wait and can finish the job immediately.
I have a shark rocket and when I bought it I immediately bought a spare set of filters off eBay...under $10 and This way I’ll never have to clap our filters if I do a very dirty vacuuming job that clogs the filters fast. Very fine powdery dirt will do this such as dirt built up on a mat coming in from a garage etc that doesn’t get cleaned regularly. Car floor mats that don’t get cleaning at least monthly and so on.
And that filter screen should have never been deleted or removed and if it came out by accident should have been put back as its there for a reason.
Only once did I have the rocket clog fast on me and I was cleaning a piece of scrap carpet at the entry from the garage just outside the door to the house, tenants had lived in the house and clearly had not vacuumed this carpet piece at all for the year and a half they lived there so the quantity of dirt in the carpet was heavy and had been pulverized to a powder so the tone of the machine went up rapidly and I checked the suction and it was suddenly poor, a filter check showed it had clogged from the heavy quantity of powdery dirt it was pulling up out of the carpet. Likely even a paper bag would have seen some level of suction loss due to the cleaning of this overly dirty piece of carpet.
Jon
I have a shark rocket deluxe pro stick vacuum. I NEVER clap out the filters dry, only take them out right at the sink and wash them with dish soap like my kitchen sponge. Avoids the giant dust cloud and properly cleans the filters.
In commercial settings bagless vacuums are useless because most people aren’t going to clean the filters out but rather just dump the canister out and just leave the filter cleaning “for someone else to do” and then it rarely if ever gets done until the vacuum simply won’t pickup at all anymore, and still them some just won’t bother and let it be someone else’s problem. Users at home do it because there is no one else to finally pass the task off to and if they don’t they just throw the vacuum away and buy a new one. A commercial vacuum with an easy to change bag that seal itself and is foolproof fitting it in such as the Aerus products is about what’s needed. If the user notices it isn’t working and the bag is packed and the bag is sealed and simple to pull out and another one is available and drops right in with no special instructions then all but the laziest of people will do it because it’s not a hassle so they are less likely to pass the task on to someone else.
Just like cleaning hair off the brush roll... nasty job and no one likes to do it especially in a commercial setting, commercial vacs need to have self cleaning brush rolls for sure.
In my opinion all these bagless vacs should come with two sets of filters, so if one set clogs and has to be washed the spare set can be put in while the washed set is drying so the vacuum is always ready to go and or the job doesn’t have to be interrupted and delayed. People are clapping out dry dirty filters so they don’t have to wait and can finish the job immediately.
I have a shark rocket and when I bought it I immediately bought a spare set of filters off eBay...under $10 and This way I’ll never have to clap our filters if I do a very dirty vacuuming job that clogs the filters fast. Very fine powdery dirt will do this such as dirt built up on a mat coming in from a garage etc that doesn’t get cleaned regularly. Car floor mats that don’t get cleaning at least monthly and so on.
And that filter screen should have never been deleted or removed and if it came out by accident should have been put back as its there for a reason.
Only once did I have the rocket clog fast on me and I was cleaning a piece of scrap carpet at the entry from the garage just outside the door to the house, tenants had lived in the house and clearly had not vacuumed this carpet piece at all for the year and a half they lived there so the quantity of dirt in the carpet was heavy and had been pulverized to a powder so the tone of the machine went up rapidly and I checked the suction and it was suddenly poor, a filter check showed it had clogged from the heavy quantity of powdery dirt it was pulling up out of the carpet. Likely even a paper bag would have seen some level of suction loss due to the cleaning of this overly dirty piece of carpet.
Jon
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I have a Shark Rocket Professional, I like it. Filters on any bagless need to be maintained, and yeah, people don't maintain their appliances. The thing I really like about my Shark is that when you remove the dust cup, the filter is right in front of your face for you to see if it's dirty. It seems it's usually once every 4 months or so that it looks just a bit too dusty and I wash it. It's NEVER looked like it was blanketed with dust.
I’ve never been diagnosed with autism or any other sort of disorder but have always loved vacuum cleaners and washing machines. Especially watching the washers with either the lid open or through a window if so equipped. Always just found all of this fascinating. Perhaps it’s because it’s watching something automated do it’s thing as opposed to a person physically doing it. As far as liking the vacuums, not sure why...I like cars too and that seems a lot less “peculiar” to the general public. I know a lot of guys in the remodeling business who really get into their different types and brands of power tools. Perhaps it’s because I really enjoy the task of vacuuming and therefore I enjoy having a good tool for the task. Thought I don’t vacuum that often, the kitchen once a week and the whole house every other week. I get great satisfaction after the place is clean and neat and get annoyed if my partner makes a mess soon after I vacuumed rather than excited for a new opportunity to pull out the vacuum has risen. Maybe for me I enjoy vacuuming when bigger results are seen afterward. I get great satisfaction from cleaning a very dirty car interior afterward and using my Electrolux or shark rocket to do so makes it fun. So I guess I get fun and satisfaction appeased together from making a visibly dirty place all clean and doing so with my favorite vacuum.
The automatic washer...well I remember as a kid being in the basement with my Grandmother, she had a giant double basin sink down there and would soak clothes in one side and scrub them on a washboard and rinse them in the other side. She also had a wringer washer and that was interesting to watch but it was a lot of work so seeing the fully automatic clothes washers do all these steps in motion fully automatically was quite interesting. My Mother has bought a regular top load full automatic washer in 1967, two years before I was born and so that was common to me but still interesting to watch all the different things it did on its own. My Grandmother was amazed the automatic washer could do it all but was not quite as amazed by the time she got one in 1979 when she was 79 years old as they had become common place in most homes by then so she had seen many. Not sure if the wringer washer died or if it was arthritis in her hands, but she and my Aunt who lived with her decided it was time to upgrade to the fully automatic washer and they never had a clothes dryer...just clotheslines both outside and in the big basement which was always warm and dry.
The automatic washer...well I remember as a kid being in the basement with my Grandmother, she had a giant double basin sink down there and would soak clothes in one side and scrub them on a washboard and rinse them in the other side. She also had a wringer washer and that was interesting to watch but it was a lot of work so seeing the fully automatic clothes washers do all these steps in motion fully automatically was quite interesting. My Mother has bought a regular top load full automatic washer in 1967, two years before I was born and so that was common to me but still interesting to watch all the different things it did on its own. My Grandmother was amazed the automatic washer could do it all but was not quite as amazed by the time she got one in 1979 when she was 79 years old as they had become common place in most homes by then so she had seen many. Not sure if the wringer washer died or if it was arthritis in her hands, but she and my Aunt who lived with her decided it was time to upgrade to the fully automatic washer and they never had a clothes dryer...just clotheslines both outside and in the big basement which was always warm and dry.
