POD - July 3rd, 2016 - A Sign of the Times.

[speedqueen]

The ad for today, the Hoover Model 28, had the most striking statement,

"An appliance without honest service behind it is like a cup without a saucer".

Think of it, when is the last time you saw someone use a saucer with a coffee cup or a modern coffee cup set with saucers?

Then think of the fact that if your plastivac blows up as it inevitable will, try getting manufacturer service. Try getting a new radio repaired and you will be laughed at. With a bearing repacking and new brushes that 28 no matter how much used can almost always be repaired, and cheaply as well.

I think the coincidence in this ad is a striking sign of the times.

 

[vintagevaclover]

Actually,

All my sets of coffee/tea cups have saucers lol. I think it depends on the make of the China.

 

[vacerator]

re; china

Well, first off, most of it comes from China today. Second, it's not so much the make of china, but if it is bone china, or porcelain, or earthenware.
Villeroy and Boch is still made in Mettlatch Germany, and is earthenware.
Spode is/was bone china, and more delicate. Johnson Brothers made some of both, as well as Laura Ashley patterns such as "Susanna" black and brown chintz.
Both are now part of the Wedgewood group. There are few small makers left.
Most of which were in Bavaria are also defunct, or under the Rosenthall holdings.
Graff Von Henneberg porzelan was in Ilmenau, and Gotha in former east Germany, and did not survive the reunification for long. It closed in the late 90's. They made some beautifull vividly colored pieces which are very valuable today. Their final runs say dishwasher safe.
I felt fortunate to find an early 90's pattern soup terrine and relish platter of the blue Luxor pattern for a modest price at a garage sale. There is not much of it offered on E-bay.
Replacements LTD. has a some pieces, and they are pricey.
More reasonable items are my Johan Haviland "silver wheat' porcelain china set designed by Eva Ziesal in the 1950's. It was made until 1988. His father had a factory in Limoge France. Now many of those pieces are highly valuable.
People collect what they like. for me, that is nothing from China. Not even Mikasa, or Noritake are made in Japan today. Either Taiwan, or Thailand.
Anything with Occupied Japan, or old Nippon are costly.
I like items which say west Germany, or Bavaria, and English pieces through the 70's that say "authorized by the queen mother and queen Elizabeth."

 

[mchmike]

I use vintage anchor hocking Fire king slag glass made in the good old USA. This stuff is indestructible.

 

[vacerator]

Oh wow Mike,

nice collection, and it's diner ready green too. Any Fiestaware? Also made in the USA by Homer Laughlin.
My mom also bought and sold both, as well as Hall china, the pioneer of the single glazing process. She bought Ronald Reagan tea pots from their E. Liverpool Ohio factory show room back in the 80's, and they fetch a hefty profit today.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Nice Jadite there!

I have some, but never use it.


  I have Fiesta, service for 20...daily usage.  I also, at imes, use Desert Rose OR Apple,  (Franciscan),service for 8 each.  They ALL have saucers, which get used at every table setting, snob that I am.... or at least am called.  Can't help it if we were raised with manners, which sometimes get noticed,  sometimes appreciated,  sometimes ignored,  and sometimes, ridiculed.


  Still,  I think I'll always use the saucers. And, I'll service my Hoovers.

 

[vintagevaclover]

You are so very right John!!!

I used Blue Willow for my every day set. It's one of my favourite patterns ever. I think I'll keep using the saucers too, they're definitely part of every place setting I do as well. Why do the people with manners and a knowledge of the finer things always get called snobs? Lol

 

[luxflairguy]

I've always wanted Jadeite!
I have 3 sets of bone china and only the newest from 1999 has both mugs and cups and saucers. Mugs are easier for the a.m. when you want a lot of coffee fast and cups and saucer for more formal evening settings. That pattern in Wedgewood Grand Gourmet. The other sets are heirloom Spode Blue Willow and even older Haviland that has passed from Mother to daughter 3 times. As a widower...what will become of it? Greg

 

[vacerator]

Franciscan

made some very attractive patterns. Then they outsourced to Japan I believe.
Austin, we aren't snobs unless we die our hair blue.
I catalogue everything with a description current approx. value, and history. When I'm gone, what I haven't sold or given away can be had by nieces, nephews, grandkids, or auctioned off. China, crystal, and trains.
Estate sales are fun, but it's nice when family and friends cherish heirlooms.
Some even end up in local historical museums, or traveling displays.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

When I go,

my neice and nephew will have a ball.  First, they'll laugh.


  I also have 3 different patterns of Lenox china. LOVE it.


  The patterns are: Eternal, (service for 20) Autumn,(service for 8)and Holiday(service for 20). Although thought extreme by some,   it's been enjoyed by MANY people over the years.


  For some,  high quality paper plates do just fine, lol

 

[vintagevaclover]

Really John??

Paper plates? What has the world come to? Next thing you know there'll be plastic silverware or cups lol;p

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Trust me, Austin..........................

it all depends on the guests. I can rise to any occasion. I also pride myself on not sinking to other levels, lol