~PLEASE HELP ASAP

[jord123]

i have been offered a 2002 numatic nqs250b in very good condition for £20 but my parents will not let me buy it they said i am not allowed anymore what persuasive techniques do you use?
thanks
here is a pic of it

 

[dysondestijl]

Ooh that looks lovely just tell your parents that you'll not get any more after this and you could always bribe them!!

 

[ultralux88]

This all depends on a few things here. But at the risk of being a bad influence I'll go ahead and say it. If you have your own money and a means of getting the machine home on your own I'd just do it and sneak it into the house. Let it sit around inconspicuously for a while before using it when they're home so it looks familiar and not new. Now however if you're depending on them for money that's different. The best bet if you really do want it bad, let go of something you don't care as much for. Just my suggestions.

 

[citroenbx]

it will go in the shed or up loft

 

[jord123]

thanks george tried that and ultralux88 its on the other side of london so my mum would have to come but would work with my dad always dose i even said to my mum we could get rid of the brand new Sh**y vax power 3 we have only been used about 10 times it was given to us
heres another pic

 

[jord123]

we live in a flat dont have a loft but do have kind of a shed

 

[jord123]

and another no air defuser though 1100w motor

 

[jord123]

its the same as the one my mum had when i was born till i was about 5 or 6 when my stupid brother blew it up but i think the suppressor went he said it went with a loud bang i did not know about hoovers then other wise it would be here now

 

[caligula]

Hi jord123.

I know I'm going to sound like the 63 year old curmudgeon that I am, and probably get a lot of flack for what I'm about to say. However, I didn't buy a single vacuum cleaner in my collection till I could pay for it myself. Ask my family to get me one? I never thought of it. I would not be that cheeky! But once I started working, I saved up and bought my favorite Electrolux. The model LX (which was 15 years old and in a used vacuum shop). The joy of buying your own vacuum cleaners is wonderful.


 


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[jord123]

No no i strongly agree with what you're saying i have bought most of mine myself
I do odd jobs for an elderly lady next door or clean friends and family cars

 

[caligula]

Hi jord123.

That's the way to do it. Wash cars, rake leaves, mow lawns, help paint a friends house. I did all of those to earn my own money. But vacuum cleaners were expensive, even the used ones. Aside from the Electrolux model LX I bought myself because I loved it and it was only $30.00, I bought it. But the first serious vacuum cleaner was a non electric for $75.00 from a good friend of mine named John Meloney. When he retired, he opened Elderberry antiques in New Hampshire. John got me all my early non electrics, as well as the Whirlwind that dates back to 1869. But the first was called the Lakeside, and it dates back to 1890. Here's a picture of it.


 


I admire anybody who ears his own stuff, way to go!

 

[dysondestijl]

Yes Jordan- offer to get rid of the vax power 3!!

 

[jord123]

yes George i did and she said the answers still the same NO but i still went on at her and now shes asking dose it come with the wands and floor tool so maybe she might let me now

 

[dysondestijl]

Good luck!

 

[vintagerepairer]

It's not about

Persuasion. Ask them why they are saying no and then digest the reply you get.

Bullying anyone into anything is only going to cause bad feeling. So find out the reasons why first and then suggest a compromise.

One in, two out would be a start. Find two cleaners you are willing to sell and then offer to get rid of them in order to buy this one.

Your parents may just be being horrible, but living in a flat as you said you do, they could simply be worried about how much space you are going to take over for vacuum cleaners. Find the root cause and address it in a constructive and mature way. Good luck.

 

[jord123]

thanks for the advise guys

 

[madabouthoovers]

When I was young in the 70's and the 80's, when my parents said NO - they meant it, and any cheek or whining would have been ignored, or met with a clip round the ear, or worse.


I think as Benny does - in that whilst you are still living under your mother's roof, she dictates the law as to what happens there, and she may indeed be concerned that your vacs are taking up too much room, and that as soon as you get the Numatic you would just want more and more.


The best time to start a collection is when you have your own home and then you can decide just how many vacs you have the space for, and indeed, can afford to buy yourself, after the rent and bills are paid.


 

 

[parwaz786]

Actually, Listen to Steve, he's wise!

I actually managed to persuade my parents to get a DC14 Origin today. Show your parents your report card if it's good. Offer to do chores and clean your room etc.
Help your mum and let her relax more than usual.
As for Dad, ask him when he is in a good mood such as payday.
If he is given a gift by someone, he may be happy and be in the giving mood so ask then
show your parents that you want this badly and work very hard.
You might find this hard but think of the Numatic.
Tell them the advantages about it so that they are more convinced

Tell your parents how it will benefit them instead of you.
Say you will not have any more vacs for a while and pay them for it because if not then they may not believe you next time
Google more tips

PS Ask your parents "What can I do to have this?"
Don't yell, slam doors argue or fold your arms, Go with the flow of your parents.
Sell a vac quickly on eBay or Gumtree for example...

 

[jord123]

thanks i think i am there sort ofmy mums freind had a cleaning company she bought one off them for 40 puonds and had for 30 year when i was 5/6 my stupid brother blew it up and since i have got a nv250 but i would like this as its newer more powerful motor and the same as my childhood one but its my bd today and my uncle is sending me money hopefully i can get it with that
here is one like my mum had with writing on