Parents new Rainbow

[joshp83]

Tekjunkie28 - that's really interesting, I was not aware they'd made a change to the motor wattage on the E2 Black. I come across them periodically, I'll have to start plugging them into my Kill-A-Watt to locate one and compare.
Thanks for sharing!

 

[dysonman1]

The new SRX only has one revolving fan. It's the "high efficiency" type of fan but has really reduced the water lift. My 1940 "Black Diamond" model B Rexair has 55 inches of lift and three fans to produce excellent airflow. Terribly disappointed in the new model. I think the highest airflow (not water lift) of any Rainbow was the model D chrome dome.

 

[juju93]

Question

When using my SRX as an air purifier I notice that on the edges of the basin there is like a white clay type texture substance in the pan, idk if that’s a good thing or if that is an issue with my water. I use to think it was all the contaminates in my air but idk. Also would putting oils and or fresh air cause this clay type film to form on the edges of my basin. I only run it in air purifying mode for at most 6 hours on speed 2.

 

[mark40511]

I'm not sure

when you say "clay" I'm wondering if you mean hard water white dust type material? Like if you put tap water in a humidifier how it can cause white dust deposits to get on everything. I have hard city water as well but I've never used mine on low speed. I just use it for cleaning.

Wattage: I read the new Hyla CST only has a wattage of 700 something.

 

[beagledad]

I believe Rainbow's model immediately prior to the SRX was the best machine they had built. The power nozzle was definitely better since they finally put on a geared belt and moved it to the side instead of the center. I can't believe they put it back in the center on the SRX. Very dumb.

Go back to the E2, put a crushproof hose on it (will also improve airflow), and give it an EBK360 power nozzle. Rexair needs to also cut out the two middle distributors and sell directly to local franchises. This would substantially decrease the price and still leave room for a decent commission.

 

[vaclab]

Historical Canister Measurements

CANISTER ONLY

D3 = 92 CFM / 60"
D4C SE = 87 CFM / 60"
E2 One Speed = 107 CFM / 58"
E2 Two Speed Gold = 97 CFM / 84"
E2 Two Speed Platinum = 97 CFM / 84"
E2 Two Speed Black = 97 CFM / 84"

Other People's Tests
SRX = 101 CFM / 58"

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So the highest canister suction is the previous generation E2 2-Speed series @ 84" and the highest canister CFM is the E2 One Speed @ 107 CFM.

Other testers had issues measuring the SRX CFM and it may indeed be nearer to 107, matching the old E2 One Speed.

Bill

 

[mark40511]

Two motors (E2 black)

If the E2 black had a motor change. Maybe there should be a stat for Motor #1 and Motor #2

What is the wattage consumed on E series 2 speeds?

 

[blackheart]

Samples for the E2 black

Here are two data sets for an E2 black I'm guessing my nozzle's seals were in better shape.

Bills sample (Thomas's machine)
121.4 loaded voltage
11.53 amps
Base 97.09 CFM 84"
Hose 80.15 CFM 82"
nozzle 50.34 CFM 8"
my sample
120 loaded voltage
966 watts
base 87.33 CFM 80"
Hose 74.49 CFM Forgot to measure!
nozzle 52.41 CFM 20"

 

[mark40511]

Question about SRX

So to be clear and that I'm understanding correctly. I've seen several Youtube Vid's demonstrating the lack of airflow at the PN by putting sand on a hard floor and it will NOT suck up the sand while most other PN's will. So is this the mere design of the SRX PN cutting off airflow? That if they updated the PN it might be better? OR.......is it the actual lack of power of the machine itself? It sounds to me like it's a PN design cutting off airflow.

 

[blackheart]

Maybe....

So this is partially speculation but I think it makes sense.
To give a possible answer to your question Mark I think that poor sand pickup on bare floors is partially due to both the main unit and the nozzle

If i remember correctly with the SRX they moved back to the narrow but wide air channel kind of like the PN-2
Looking over Bill's data this narrow channel has always been problematic his D4 got around 42 nozzle cfm with the old boxy nozzle and 33 with the PN-2
This was repeated with the PN2E and the PN-12 using a E2 Blue The PN2E scored 47.27 CFM (off) and the pn-12 scored 59.38 (off) attached to the same E2 blue.


In addition to this the SRX nozzle seems very poorly sealed when i attempted to measure it on my airflow box I noticed leakage around the front vent, both of the rear vents and the nozzle neck.

I think we all know that suction helps maintain airflow over a distance since the SRX has lower suction that previous models it seems that it ends up losing more over similar distances Look at this chart of the data i've collected we can see the E2 black (my sample) starts off with less flow and more suction but it's higher suction power helps it retain more of that airflow. That and the lower the flow the less resistance it will encounter.

Now I will say when I did my test of the SRX my voltage was running low at around 115 so that most likely effected the results Seeing as I got 52" of suction from the hose where others have gotten 58" So if my voltage were running closer to the usual 120 it may have better but since the SRX was brought here by a friend who lives....like 4 hours away it's not something I really have access to.

 

[mark40511]

I didn't want to start a new thread for just a simple question. Is it safe to put attachments in the dishwasher. Like the floor brush, crevice tool, floor/wall brush, etc? I know the floor brush has rubber on it. I've usually washed with in the sink with soap/hot water and just put them up to dry..I just finished cleaning my nasty garage floor with my rainbow and when I was washing the squeegee brush, it made me wonder if I can put all of that stuff in the dishwasher. Thanks

 

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@mark40511

As long as it doesn't have any metal parts (aluminum is allowed) i wouldn't be worried.

 

[juju93]

box shrunk

This may sound irrelevant, but i think rexair shrunk the box size that the SRX comes in. I was on fb and saw someone posted the srx unit and then next to it was the box it comes in but the box was the same height as the machine. Now we all know the current packaging is taller than the unit, which packages the hose, wands and attachments, did rexair chnage that to only package the machine itself in a separate box? I mean I know this may sound irrelevant but I thought Id bring it up.

 

[gregvacs28]

"Is it safe to put attachments in the dishwasher."

It usually is BUT it's best if you can turn off the heater. It may be necessary to unplug one of the wires to the heating element when washing these plastic parts.

Some types of plastic don't do well with the high heat and will discolor and become brittle over time.

Things like floor brushes can be improved immensely.

I've found that putting the spin-scrub brush assem. from my Hoover carpet cleaner in the dw really gets the lint off and returns to brushes to the original straight position.

If you're putting a bristled floor brush in remove it from the plastic body and put it in bristles down.

Good luck.

 

[juju93]

RainJet Question

Anyone on here know what other cleaning solutions that I can use in the rainjet accessory? I would Like to use something other than clean floor. I'm thinking about using swiffer wetjet solution and or bona floor solution and or maybe pine sol /lysol, but I'd like to make sure and ask the professionals first.