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[beko1987]

Very nice! But is that right? No bagged uprights at all now?

 

[adamthemieleman]

I think we still do the S7 but it is few and far between, theres also the pure power. I'm surprised to see there is no AEG in the brochure. Obviously its not the full range, but I thought at least a couple of their things may have been in there

 

[beko1987]

Suppose its the spring clean promo soon isn't it! Excuse to get rid of last years stock!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Don't worry Beko, theres still Freenet electrical and John Lewis, they do bagged uprights. All I can say is thank the lord for Sebo and Miele. I am waiting in trepidation for the new ranges that will be coming out nearer September, once all the high wattage bagless tat has been sold off. Currys has never been much good for bagged uprights, nor has Argos just lately.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Madabouthoovers have you seen the SEBO German website they have launched 3 new Eco K Series one with a 700 watt motor!? Hope they bring it to the UK at some point! Be interesting to see what happens with the X, Felix and D Series too?

Shame Curry's and Argos don't have an equal range of bagged vacuums but it all about bagless still or is it reading the other thread on world vacuum survey! I personally think bagged vacuums are becoming an option some people turning back too in small quantities! Bagless will always be around I suppose! I don't regret going back to a bag machine.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Yes, that made interesting reading that article did on the other thread, with 46% of all vacuums worldwide being bagged canisters!


Shame about the 6% being bagged uprights though, but also a surprise that only 7% are bagless uprights, and I'd imagine most of these are in the UK and US.


I still think Currys should stock more bagged uprights though, I don't know why they cant stock the SEBO Felix and X Series. Not everyone wants a PurePower, and the Purepower falls foul of the new EU power limits as well from Sept, so that might disappear completely if HooverCandy haven't got a replacement for it.


Currys seem to think that all people want is Dysons and bagless - either that or Dyson pays them a big bung to favour selling his cleaners.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Sure did! Yes that was a shame I would of thought the Upright percentage would have been higher especially the bagless upright percentage! Both are a surprise to me too. Like you say it must be the UK and US. Although suppose the US have more canisters with motor powered heads than the UK have.

I agree, one of my local Curry's had a nice display of SEBO's with a banner 'We love SEBO' , one of he sales guys I chatted to loved the SEBO and sold a few converting would be Dyson buyers to the discussed of the Dyson Sales Rep who wouldn't speak to him when they visited! Now that display has has gone all shop floor stock sold off. Nearly bought a Felix Vogue they where selling off for about £100 ship floor display no box or tools! Obviously they didn't sell well!? Shame really they even had the dirt collector (not sure of the correct name) to attach to the top of the Felix to show dirt picked up! I love my Felix best vacuum I've ever owned. Would like an X4 sometime or K series.

Curry's certainly do think people just want bagless cause that's what the public want or think they want. I think Dyson pays Curry's for there big displays and to promote their vacuums over others IMHO!

 

[madabouthoovers]

The other big problem with Currys is that they don't carry much in stock in their branches, and you have to pay first and either have it delivered or collect from the store several days later.


The problem with this is that if you were going to have it delivered, its cheaper to use other online retailers like Freenetelectrical.co.uk


 


I have not bought from Currys quite often now as they didn't keep the items I wanted in stock, and insisted I'd have to pay first and then wait for delivery, so I found the items cheaper elsewhere and had them delivered.


 


Both Currys and Argos really need to decide if they are internet retailers only offering home delivery, or shops you can go to, buy the product, put it in your car and drive home with it. Both seem to stock less and less nowadays in store, and if you've then got to wait for delivery, then its cheaper to order from other online retailers.

 

[vintagerepairer]

madabouthoovers

If the "problem" you refer to really is a problem for Currys and Argos, you can bet your life they'd be onto it like a shot. I am not having a go at you or anyone now, but I am telling it like it is; what you are saying is that this causes you a problem. Doubtless there will be a good deal of other consumers who also find doing business the Currys way a little tiresome too, but if this was sufficiently widespread to cause Currys and Argos significant loss of sales, they would no longer trade in this manner.

As you know only too well from another thread, a great number of brand-new old-stock vacuum cleaners & other appliances are now being sold off, with references made to the cost of storage which has been incurred year on year. That is the reality of the situation; stock is incredibly expensive to hold, with costs arising from a number of factors, not just the purchase cost of the stock. Though to the general public it may seem that every sale is profit made and every sale lost is a profit not made, to the retailer this is not so. Every retailer has to establish what the stock is going to cost them, vs lost sales incurred for not keeping products in stock, otherwise they are at great risk from having too much money tied up in stock which continues to cost money whilst it sits there doing very little.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Your points are duly noted vintagerepairer, but you can bet your bottom dollar that whilst Currys's branch warehouses don't stock much of anything else vacuum wise, they are never short of Dysons!


Meanwhile, seeing as all Currys want to sell is mostly bagless vacuums, I shall have to continue to ditch Currys and go elsewhere. Pity, as they used to be quite efficient years ago, but as you say, they wont really be bothered about losing my custom.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Any Argos I have been into always carry a large range of products. There's only been one time where I wasn't able to purchase the item I intended to buy.

 

[madabouthoovers]

What about all the items on Argos.co.uk like Miele vacuums that aren't carried in stock and have to be ordered into store or home delivered, taking several days? Its cheaper then to buy these from other online retailers. People are just not getting what I'm saying are they.


Take the following Miele S6220, a good seller, I'll bet your local store has none in stock when you try to reserve one, and you'll have to wait days for them to get one in:



http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4066734.htm

 

[madabouthoovers]

And then the hoover Purepower - no currys shops carry these in stock either:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-a...9-pdt.html?sPageInfo=1_20&sSortInfo=price-asc

 

[vintagerepairer]

I get it.

But having been in business myself, I am working to the first rule which is that a business has to make money in order to survive. Granted that without customers there would be no business at all, so yes, they are essential, however, no business can ever afford to be all things for all customers, because that is way too expensive. A business has to work to a strategy which allows the bulk of it's customers to be sufficiently satisfied with what is on offer.

The fact that some people might find some retailers objectionable does not mean that the business is getting it wrong for all of it's customer base.

 

[madabouthoovers]

But why do Argos and Currys offer items online, that they don't or wont hold in stock, causing disappointment, and long delays in getting these items.


Why not just advertise only what you can physically stock. Argos has only recently started with all this "pay or reserve now and get it in several days" business. If I've got to pay £220 from Argos for an item, and then have to wait for it to be delivered, then I'd rather pay £180 from somewhere else for the same product and have it delivered.


I'd be prepared to pay a premium if I can get the item today from the shop stock, but not if I've got to wait several days for it, and I can get it cheaper somewhere else. How is this being competitive?


 


Take the Miele S6220 detailed above a few posts, in Argos, its £220, they don't hold them in stock any more, and you have to have it delivered, taking several days.


The same S6220 on Freenet (link below) is £177.49 - that's a saving of £42.50, so why should I buy it from Argos?



http://www.freenetelectrical.co.uk/miele/vacuum-cleaners/s6220/product-1519/