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The commercial Steamvac is the household version with grounded power cable you say? Well, the Hoover Floormax, which they introduced in 1999 could be the answer, even if it's off the market.
 
Briguy...

I most heartily disagree with your opinion of the effectiveness of Host, when PROPERLY applied.  Carpet fiber is synthetic, it cannot absorb water. What happens when you spray a dirty wall with a water based cleaner? It collects on the wall until gravity overcomes surface tension, and it runs down.  Carpet has many, many times the vertical surface as it does flat horizontal surface composed of the tips of the fiber.  An ultra low-volume carpet cleaning head will spray .5 gal/min, or approximately 1 oz/min the trigger is depressed.  An extremely high extraction rate of recovery is 90%   ANY water that touches the backing of the carpet begins to compromise the glue that binds the primary and secondary backings together.


 


The Host wipes the fiber from bottom to top, because there are two 5" diameter counter-rotating brushes.  The proper application covers the entire fiber from bottom to top. You can see the compound turn from rusty gold to light gold/grey or even black, depending on how dirty the carpet is.  Once a carpet is wet with extraction, you cannot tell for certain if it is really clean, or if the water remaining is masking stains/high traffic areas. With the Host, once it is dry and vacuumed away you can simply repeat the application. On really stubborn/dirty areas you can 'pancake' the spot with the Host compound and leave it overnight.  I have removed dried water-base varnish with this method.   The application of Host can be repeated four times before maximum effectiveness has been reached. The Host method uses approximately 1 teaspoon of liquid per square foot, or one tablespoon per square yard.  


 


Host can be walked on during application and drying without damage to the carpet. It does not pose a danger of slipping on adjacent hard surface floor. It can be used to control dirt in high traffic areas to keep them from spreading. It can be used to spot clean, even in areas where people allergic to cleaning chemicals are present.


 


Host leaves the carpet toe-scrunching  fluffy, and cleaner longer than extraction because it does not dilute the dirt, only to wick back once the humidity in the room is low enough for the water in the carpet to wick up.


 


Host really shines as a maintenance process. Once the carpet is thoroughly clean, regular maintenance with Host eliminates the need for any other supplemental or interim carpet cleaning process ever.


 


The comparison to carpet cleaning and clothes washing is inaccurate. Shirts, jeans, sheets, etc are woven cloth that require water flowing completely through the weave to get truly clean. A lot of water is used up to remove a comparatively small amount of dirt.  A more accurate comparison is  how we clean garments like outer coats, suits, sport coats, tailored dresses. Why? Because these garments have structure built-in that precludes being saturated with water and tumbled.  These garments are treated gently. They are saturated, but with fast-drying chemicals, much less water.


 


If you look on the Host website, there are articles about school systems, casinos, hotels and health-care facilities switching entirely to Host carpet cleaning systems and methods.  There is almost no downtime, the maintenance is on-going and eliminates concerns about over wetting and drying times.  The company continues to grow. I know of no other system that preserves the life of carpet for over three decades if properly and regularly used.


 


1) Only 100 sq ft can be covered at one time (500 in open commercial applications) 2) the more brushing, the better it works


 


I have accomplished amazing results with every carpet cleaning method there is. A lot of is is time and patience, not being in a hurry, attention to detail, and the equipment. But the best, longest lasting results are with Host.
 
always been curious.

i have a room with really dirty carpet no matter ho many times i steam vac it still comes up dingy i have even used a commercial husky scooter i was thinking of replacing it. would i be able to somehow use a Kirby with attachment combos or what not with the chemicals and methods you fellas mentioned there might be a way i am sure people have dabbled with it. i am not willing to kill any beautiful Kirby over it if any one has experimented let me know how you experiences went. could save money on a rental or an orbiter.
 
I agree that Host & other "dry methods" might be ok for in between maintenance or spot cleaning. However they are not considered "deep cleaning" methods. The majority of carpet manufacturers & certification companies for carpet cleaning companies recognize extraction as a true "deep cleaning" method.


On the subject of dry-cleaning clothes as a comparison, here is the definition from the EPA website on how the process is achieved:

"The drycleaning process requires 3 steps: (1) washing the fabric in solvent, (2) spinning to extract excess solvent, and (3) drying by tumbling in a hot air stream"

The articles of clothing are "washed" in large front-loading machines & tumbled and spun just like a front-load washer in the appropriate solvents. It is not truely "dry-cleaning". So, fabrics that are "dry-clean only" do require solvents/solution flowing through the fabric to get them clean.
The solution has to wash thru the weave of the fabric to cleanse the fibers.
 
Beats the proffesional steam machines

I'll chime in on this one. I have using the oreck/capture products removed ding, stains and grime from a beige carpet. This nasty mess was the product of animals, people, and who knows what else. For 5 years consecutively the whole house the cleaned professionally with a truck mount extraction system. Every year they promised the stains would be gone and the carpet would look new. Yet everytime the same stains came back to their full grossness with in a few weeks after cleaning. With nothing more than the Oreck dry cleaning kit and a small brush to work it in, I treated the carpet and vacuumed the next day. The Stains were gone! And now 3 years later they are still gone not having been cleaned since. So as far as the extraction method goes i really have no faith in it. Nor will I ever have someone else clean my carpets for me. Not to mention if the padding gets wet and does't dry quickly that is an open invitation for molt and mildew which can cause a load of health problems. I'm just saying.
 
Briguy...

The people who maintain carpets in the many casinos, schools, and health care facilities with nothing but Host would consider it a deep cleaning method.  With extraction, you reach a point of saturation where no more liquid can be applied, because of the limitation of less than 100% extraction.  The Host must be properly applied, and thoroughly brushed, but the results are amazing.


 


Kirby shampooer in conjunction with a Hoover Steam Vac or similar unit can yield fantastic results.


 


1) use 1 1/2 measuring capfuls of shampoo per 3 pints of water.  2) Work in small sections, multiple directions. 3) Shut off suds and pick up suds and dirt until no more can be removed. 4) Use the equivalent measure of white vinegar in the solution tank instead of whatever cleaning solution is recommended. Remember, there is still shampoo in the carpet.  The rinse and extract will get the carpet squeaky clean. Wait until is is completely dry before repeating.


 


The machines used to dry clean clothes tumble much more gently, and if it is a good dry cleaner, the machines are loaded lightly, not stuffed, and the solution is not watered down.  Spots are pre-treated according to type of stain and type of fabric.
 
I have had good results with "Host","Capture" as well.when you wet carpets in my area-even with AC on-The carpet takes HOURS to dry.the bad thing about the Kirby system is that is NOT an extractor.For those that have had bad results with truck mounts-its NOT the machines fault---its the OPERATORS fault there.Find another service.I have seen many wonderful cleaning jobs done by truck mounts-its the OPERATOR that makes the big difference!!He HAS TO KNOW how to operate his system!A neighbor that lived near me did carpet cleaning with a truck mount system.He showed me his equipment and its operation-was one of the most informative morning walks I took!He also did HVAC duct cleaning-the vacuum unit he used has a 27Hp motor and a bag as big as a car!Was amazing the stuff it collected from ductwork!The vacuum motor and bag unit were outside the home.I feel Kirby should adopt a dry clean system involving Host or Capture-An attachment to the Kirby could work the powder into the carpet-then part of the "kit" would be a reusable dump bag to collect the spent cleaning powder.Think this would work well.Using disposable bags for picking up dry cleaning powders gets expensive.And since they can be still damp-causes paper vacuum bags to fall apart.
 

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