Didn't My Dreyfuss also design some tractors for John Deere?
Okay...let's see your DREYFUSS machines!
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Did someone say 150???
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I'd imagine there's a website, maybe just a Wikipedia article that lists Dreyfuss's designs..i'll have a scout for one ;]
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Significant original Dreyfuss designs include:
the "Western Electric 302" tabletop telephone for Bell Laboratories (1930, produced 1937-1950)
the Hoover "Model 150" vacuum cleaner (1936)
the classic Westclox "Big Ben" alarm clock (1939)[1]
the New York Central Railroad's streamlined "Twentieth Century Limited" locomotive (1938)
the popular "Democracity" model city of the future at the 1939 New York World's Fair
the styled John Deere Model A and Model B tractors (1938)
the Wahl-Eversharp Skyline fountain pen (1940).
the "500" desk telephone (1949), the Bell System standard for 45 years
the Honeywell circular wall thermostat (1953).
the spherical "Model 82 Constellation" vacuum cleaner for Hoover (1954) which floated on an air cushion of its own exhaust.
the "Princess" telephone (1959)
the "Trimline" desk telephone (1965).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Dreyfuss
Ah here we go, Wikipedia..the cause, and solution to, all of life's problems.
Significant original Dreyfuss designs include:
the "Western Electric 302" tabletop telephone for Bell Laboratories (1930, produced 1937-1950)
the Hoover "Model 150" vacuum cleaner (1936)
the classic Westclox "Big Ben" alarm clock (1939)[1]
the New York Central Railroad's streamlined "Twentieth Century Limited" locomotive (1938)
the popular "Democracity" model city of the future at the 1939 New York World's Fair
the styled John Deere Model A and Model B tractors (1938)
the Wahl-Eversharp Skyline fountain pen (1940).
the "500" desk telephone (1949), the Bell System standard for 45 years
the Honeywell circular wall thermostat (1953).
the spherical "Model 82 Constellation" vacuum cleaner for Hoover (1954) which floated on an air cushion of its own exhaust.
the "Princess" telephone (1959)
the "Trimline" desk telephone (1965).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Dreyfuss
vacuumkid3
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I own a Trimline as well...the DIAL kind! I never knew they had those until my twin was at an antique store and found one and bought it for me for my birthday! I got it working, but I still need to find a plug...and I can't remember if the ringer works or not. Also, I have the 500...that's a pretty one!
Say...the 82 Constellation does NOT float, right? I believe I used one at Toby's house...and, well...it didn't float. Is this correct?
GREAT MODEL TRAINS!! I love those!!
~~K~~
Say...the 82 Constellation does NOT float, right? I believe I used one at Toby's house...and, well...it didn't float. Is this correct?
GREAT MODEL TRAINS!! I love those!!
~~K~~
z30soulbrother
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constellation
i am glad someone else has raised this floating issue. i was always unsure, so was it all of the the top hose jobbies that didnt float and only the side hose ones that did change took place around 1957ish yes?
si
i am glad someone else has raised this floating issue. i was always unsure, so was it all of the the top hose jobbies that didnt float and only the side hose ones that did change took place around 1957ish yes?
si
aeoliandave
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Right. As originally conceived by Raymond Loewy the 82 does not hover. As the original owner's manual posted here indicates, the big selling feature of the all new Constellation was the super long Ultraflex hose and swiveltop connecter that kept the machine in the center of the room (like an Air-Way) while allowing a 14 foot radial reach. A rubber gasket directed the exhaust into the felt stuffed rim where it exited up the sides of the lower ball, which was spaced 1/4" away from the rim by the hinge and two rubber bumper buttons. The rim was hinged to open for access to the blower port. As a consumate and accomplished industrial designer Loewy would have done this to muffle the exhaust and keep it from blowing outwards disturbing dust into the air.
The 'accidental' hovering ability was added the second year by modifying the gasket to direct exhaust through a matching port to the bottom of the otherwise identical rim, with the trade-off result of blowing unsucked dust bunnies scurrying to the four walls. The rim was still hinged to open for access for hose connection to the blower port without tipping the whole vacuum inelegantly over on its side.
In the 3rd and major Constellation modification, to capitolize on this frictionless floating side benefit, the lower rim was redesigned to be more suited to the purpose and rivited solidly in place tight to the ball. The wide outward rim flare doubles as a hose coiling cradle so the entire vacuum ensemble can be carried & stored away as one unit. The top center swivel elbow was no longer needed as the vacuum could trail along behind the vacuumer and was moved off center down the side and the finned handle added which doubles as a cord wrap.
This is the model most are familiar with. Later changes to this final enduring form accomodated tool holder racks, and the model Tom gave me that has two clever fin-let tabs just above the rubber bumper trim for cord coiling there rather than around the handle. Tom also showed me the model with the optional power hose connection. More on that please, Tom. I remember he said something about how short lived this inovation lasted due to electrical failures...
The engineering evolution & solutions away from Loewy's original intent become obvious when all 3 early machines can be compared side by side.
Not that there's anything wrong with that - Hoover paid for the design, owned it and was free to change anything the marketing department deemed essential to continued sales success. The longevity of the Connie design proves how right they were.
The 'accidental' hovering ability was added the second year by modifying the gasket to direct exhaust through a matching port to the bottom of the otherwise identical rim, with the trade-off result of blowing unsucked dust bunnies scurrying to the four walls. The rim was still hinged to open for access for hose connection to the blower port without tipping the whole vacuum inelegantly over on its side.
In the 3rd and major Constellation modification, to capitolize on this frictionless floating side benefit, the lower rim was redesigned to be more suited to the purpose and rivited solidly in place tight to the ball. The wide outward rim flare doubles as a hose coiling cradle so the entire vacuum ensemble can be carried & stored away as one unit. The top center swivel elbow was no longer needed as the vacuum could trail along behind the vacuumer and was moved off center down the side and the finned handle added which doubles as a cord wrap.
This is the model most are familiar with. Later changes to this final enduring form accomodated tool holder racks, and the model Tom gave me that has two clever fin-let tabs just above the rubber bumper trim for cord coiling there rather than around the handle. Tom also showed me the model with the optional power hose connection. More on that please, Tom. I remember he said something about how short lived this inovation lasted due to electrical failures...
The engineering evolution & solutions away from Loewy's original intent become obvious when all 3 early machines can be compared side by side.
Not that there's anything wrong with that - Hoover paid for the design, owned it and was free to change anything the marketing department deemed essential to continued sales success. The longevity of the Connie design proves how right they were.
aeoliandave
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oops, you know I meant Dreyfuss, not Loewy, right?
Early morning, waiting on the coffee. My apologies. Dave
Early morning, waiting on the coffee. My apologies. Dave
aeoliandave
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Original non-hovering Dreyfuss Constellation 82 from the Owner's Manual showing the inner ring of exhaust holes of the felt lined outer rim ring to which the Connie blow hole exhaust is directed through a rubber seal. Mmm, same principle and construction as an engine muffler.
aeoliandave
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Canadian 841E swiveltop with hovering modification.
Modification to rim ring allowing hovering action. No inner side holes. All exhaust directed to floor.
Modification to rim ring allowing hovering action. No inner side holes. All exhaust directed to floor.
aeoliandave
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Profile of Dreyfuss' floor ring design. Note how the angle & height of the rim hinge lets the vacuum body rest on the rubber bumper when accessing the blower port, without letting the vacuum tumble over.
Can anyone tell us if Dreyfuss had a hand in the later flared hovering rim and finned handle elements? Or was this a Hoover initiative of the Engineering Dept.?
Can anyone tell us if Dreyfuss had a hand in the later flared hovering rim and finned handle elements? Or was this a Hoover initiative of the Engineering Dept.?
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Didn't Dreyfuss also design the Hoover 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 60, 61, 62 and 63? I thought he did that entire series. And maybe even the first Convertible??
electroluxxxx
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Yep he did
