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One day last week I got a phone call from one of my buddies at a local vac shop. He said, his voice trembling a bit, "We just got something in on trade that you're really gonna want. I hid it in the back -- you better get over here quick before the boss sees it!"

Well, I wasn't about to miss something so amazing that it made a vac-shop repairman's voice quiver! I had no sooner hung up the phone than I was at the store. My friend was standing at the repair counter in the back. When he saw me, he motioned for me to come there.

He led me back to a far corner of the back room, behind the repair counter, where there's a mountain of trade-ins and parts.

He opened a closet door and reached in and grabbed something. When I saw it, I had to sit down, because I nearly fainted.

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And here's why.

I have NEVER seen a 500-series Kirby like this one. Have any of you? I can't imagine it's something that someone rigged up on their own. It's just too professionally done.

The model plate identifies it as a 560 and every detail points to that model except the long rug nozzle and the earlier-style belt lifter.

But about that belt lifter ... it's not a belt lifter at all! As you'll see in the photos, it's just a cap that attaches to the front and is held in place by a pair of spring-loaded clips.

The rug nozzle is somehow attached permanently -- I'm guessing bolted onto the fan housing from the inside. It doesn't come off, and there's no release lever for it on the top.

The one big "ARRRRRGGHHHHH" ... the brush roll is missing. And it's a real oddball size. It's two inches longer than a Heritage-II or Legend's standard nozzle. It -might- be the same length as a Classic nozzle, but I don't have any Classics or parts for them, so I can't check that out. Not that it would probably help if I did, given the non-standard fittings for the end-caps.

The bumper for the rug nozzle is a little different than the standard one -- it's somewhat taller in height and has a different shape -- instead of what basically is two tubular pieces stuck together like the standard bumper, it's flatter and has two ridged lines running along the bottom. It almost looks like a Classic bumper but it's not that tall. Its height is somewhere between the standard 500-series bumper and the Classic bumper.

It runs great; the motor sings sweetly and winds down with no bearing noise or armature vibration whatsoever. I'm just dying that the brush roll went missing!

My guess is that it was an early version or a prototype for the American Lincoln, Janitronic & SuperSweep machines -- standard Kirbys in every way but with wide nozzles and painted in garish (dare I say ugly?) colors and with design elements that looked like haphazard afterthoughts.

One might wonder why it doesn't have a special Model number or name. On the other hand, the Heritage II & Legend II machines had three different rug nozzles the user could choose -- the "standard" Heritage/Legend nozzle, a smaller 500-series-style nozzle, and a larger Classic-style nozzle. So if this was just an optional commercial-use version of a Kirby without attachments, they might not have felt it was important to give it a special model designation.

But I really have no idea.

Sometimes I have weird dreams where I'm in dark, creepy basement-type rooms where there are vacuum cleaners in all sorts of strange sizes and/or odd proportions, bizarre attachments, etc. It's almost as if this Kirby materialized from one of those mysterious dreams. I've just never seen another one like it. Ever. Anywhere. Y'all should have seen my chin hit the floor when the guy at the vac shop fetched it out of its hiding place in the back room.

See the photos below. There are 20 of them, showing the machine from different angles, a few shots comparing it to a standard 500-series model, and some detail shots.

Oh, and, CAN YOU IMAGINE ... I had no sooner loaded the machine into the back seat of my car than the boss (owner of the store) pulled up in the parking lot. If I had gotten there just as couple of minutes later, this machine would have ended up sitting in a corner of his very cluttered and discheveled office. I am just beside myself with elation that my friend called me in time!

Now don't get me wrong -- it's not that my pal did something wrong in giving me this Kirby. The owner has no interest whatsoever in old machines and has told the crew there that I can have any old trade-ins that I want, for the same amount as they gave the customer for the trade-in. "It's less crap for me to climb over," he says. But he's probably right -- given its oddball status, the owner very well might have wanted to keep it.

Okay, so any of y'all who might have an American Lincoln, Janitronic or SuperSweep, could you take some photos of the bottom of the rug nozzle and the brush roll so I can determine if this machine takes the same size and type of brush roll? And then, if so, Oh Dear Lord, please FIND me one!!"

So ......................... what y'all think??!

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Charles, well done! I'm pretty sure I have a theory on this model!


 


What if that longer nozzle was a rare and short-lived upgrade, available for those who used their Kirbys in commercial settings. Kirby than realised 'why offer this as an upgrade when we could create a commercially-rated Kirby?'. The option was pulled from production, and thus birthed the SUPER-SWEEP!


 


Seems possible! 
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this is not what is appears.... im not sure where that builders plate came from, but photos 14 and 16 show its true lineage as a 2nd generation super sweep from the residue of emerald green paint left on the fan case and rug nozzle.

that is commercial kirby dolled up into some very elaborate bojacking a vac shop likely did to sell it to a customer or commercial cleanign svc. the wrong belt lifter was the first clue. your closeup photos show more damning evidence...
 
Drats! There goes my cool Kirby theory! Will is right,I bet they cobbled a 560 with a super-sweeper! Took the paint off the nozzle, too! But I've never seen that style of belt lifter cover? Any ideas?
 
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Gee whiz, Will ... "damning" evidence? Isn't that kinda harsh? I didn't present this machine as being anything other than a mystery. Same for my buddy who tipped me off about it.

I did see the "green paint residue" but thought maybe it was oxidation or some other sort of discoloration. It doesn't really look like paint to me. But what do I know.......?!

Also, you said it was "bojacked" but as far as I can tell, all the parts are genuine Kirby. Doesn't the term "bojack" refer to non-genuine parts like "To-Fit" bags and such?

But again, I don't know what to say about it, not ever having had a SuperSweep model to compare it to, except that it's a rare bird regardless of its origins!
 
Wonder if the roller brush for the wide 18" Royals could be adapted to fit this.Interesting machine and a one of a kind find.You have found the Kirby that is a true one of a kind?Could this have been made up custom by a Kirby place or a vac shop?That Kirby has got me and others here mystified.
 
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Hi Charlie, Thanks for sharing and taking time to take the pictures. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">It's nice to look at. All you need to do now is look out for a brush roller for it. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">When I get chance and get over to my dads I'll take a picture of my American Super Sweep roller so you can see what you need to look out for. </span>

<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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Good theory above.The most important spot of green paint is under screw at pic 16---But-the belt lifter does not in any way look 'bojack'.How does back compare with original?The nozzle bumper does look 70s and not 50s or 60s.
What are the years of the known comm versions and would front fan cover interchange?
Great find!At least a skilled rebuilt if not actually official?
 
The most interesting thing to me is, the rug nozzle appears to be sand cast, not die cast. All the Super Sweep and Janitronic machines were die cast nozzles. You can see the markings from the sand mold in the photo of the missing lock lever. Compare this sand marred top to a model 510's sand cast nozzle and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
Here are pics of my American Lincoln Super Sweep nozzle and brushroll. It looks very similar to Charlie's new find. Even though the brushroll attaches to the nozzle rather than the bottom plate, it still is designed just like a Kirby brush roll. The two sides are even different sizes, just like the Kirby.

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Well, the consensus (here and in private emails) does seem to be that the nozzle for this mysterious Kirby came from a Super Sweep.

KC_Kirby's photos above clearly show that it's the same nozzle as on my "mystery model." Saturday I'm going to take it back to the vac shop (when the coast is clear again!) and see if they have a brushroll that fits. I sure hope so because it would be a lot of fun to use.

I have no idea how my strange machine came to be. Whoever made it, whether it was someone at a vac-shop or someone at the Kirby Company, they did a very professional job with it. Nothing about it looks amateurish or bojacked. The clip-side of the unique belt cover in particular looks like it was machined and not just "mickey-moused."

It's been fun hearing the detective and guesswork from other collectors. Any way you look at it it's a rare machine and I'll treasure it.

Oh and btw my friend didn't just give me the machine - he charged me what the buyer of a new machine got on it as a trade-in, and I'm sure the money went into the store's cash register as it always does. All these guys have worked together a long time, and they wouldn't cheat one another.

Also, I don't know who traded it in or what new machine they got and I'd never ask. And they'd never tell me. As that would violate their customers' confidentiality.

I don't suppose anyone out there has a spare Super Sweep brush roll, do they....... :)
 
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I received the following info in an email this morning:

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The 18" brush roll for Royal metal uprights (look like Kirby) has square ends and there is a chance that it could fit the 18" Kirby nozzle. The belt will keep the brush roll in place within the side guides of the nozzle. If the square ends are adjusted by filing or use of heavy duty rubber tape, the Royal 18" brush roll could work.

In your photos, the belt cover is a genuine Kirby product. Kirby has a special riveting machine that attached the metal clips. Recall, Kirby had clips on the belt covers of early Kirby vacuum cleaners of the "C" series.

All of the Supersweep and Janitronic uprights are painted and the castings are very rough. If someone removed the paint and polished a Supersweep nozzle and fan case it would take a lot of time and effort. Kirby has very unique polishing jigs for six (6) steps of finishing, buffing, and polishing at the factory. There is some automation in the polishing process, but it is still time consuming.

There have been many odd machines like Electrolux G's and Compact machines that have been chrome plated for show purposes, also.
 
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the discoloration of the metal is moisture related not paint residue. It seems if you were to go to the trouble of getting 99% of the paint you would finished the job by getting these fairly easy to access surfaces.
 

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