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Kettles and hairdryers.

A high-wattage electric kettle gets the water heated much faster, so -as with many heated appliances- overall it is far better to be using a high wattage kettle because the time spent doing it's job is, overall, significantly shorter than a lower wattage equivalent which takes a whole lot longer. So, a 3kw flat-disc kettle uses 50% more electricity than a 2000 watt standard kettle during operation, but the operation time to bring a quantity of water to the boil is so much lower. With washing machines, the quantity of water used is so much lower than it used to be, and to that end heating times are a lot shorter as a result. So again, energy savings are made.

Now, a more powerful hairdryer should, in theory, dry hair much more quickly, thus the operation time is lower when compared to a lower wattage alternative, like the kettle, although in this instance a number of variables come into play, namely whether or not the user can tolerate the heat, noise, and airflow of a hairdryer which can consume as much as 2.5kw. My instincts tell me probably not, thus the user may well choose a lower setting for maximum comfort. Of course, if this type of hairdryer is being used in a commercial salon, then that is not good on many levels. Commercial hairdryers are still very cheap to buy for those in the trade, some of which are still rated at around 1200 watts (though I appreciate that some are a lot higher).

But with the vacuum cleaner, set at full power, the motor is consuming maximum wattage from the word go, but this of course lead does not lead to an increase in the speed at which cleaning is carried out. It is more of an issue on vacuum cleaners than anything else, because history has proven that a good design can yield decent suction power, without the need for an overly high wattage motor.
 
Well, my current hairdryer uses 2100w of power. My previous one had 2200w but the 2100w one has so much more airflow compared to the more powerful one. I think it's the same principle as Vacuums, it's all about design & how well manufactured it is. I was quite surprised actually.
 
Hmmm....

The idea is great, a lot of vacuums from Hoover/Candy now are WAY too powerful. For example, todays Purepowers have 2100W, that just wastes energy. Often Candy put a 2000W motor in to make up for poor design.

On the other hand, 1400W is a good amount of Wattage, also not being too big either. I wouldn't want to see European politicians saying that they need to be reduced. Anything above 1400W I would not go for.

That's that from me...
 
What do you think will happen to the cheapy brands of vacuums you can find in places such as B&M Bargains? For example B&M sell Prolex machines that use 2000w motors. Do you think these Vacs will go away or not?
 
Limits

If a vacuum cleaner is restricted in wattage to, lets say, 1200 watts, then all cheap vacs will have no choice to but to comply. No one can complain if they don't like it as it will be all that is available. If anything, it will be setting a new bench-mark for manufacturers to work to. They will have no choice but to design cleaners which work better IF they want to compete on quality.

However, if they are competing on price only, well, they will stay as they are, albeit using the new lower wattage motors.
 
HI-Lo - Jamie appears to own a Vax Performance 2000 watt vacuum - look at his profile.

I should also mention that not everyone is happy to shop at BN and they won't sell vacuums for ever - plus my nearest location store doesn't sell any vacuums at all.

Before the likes of BN, there was Poundstretcher, forever selling those Electrolux based Contour Dirt Devil uprights and Dirt Devil cylinder vacuums. Even when you find supermarkets doing their exclusive "similar" floorcare models, they are not all conforming to low power at present though I remember Poundstretcher selling 1200 watt "Eco" versions of Dirt Devil cylinder vacs and you get what you pay for there - plastic tubes and plastic everything.

As for Hoover, the highest will probably continue -their new Athos cylinder vacuum that's just been launched has a 2500 watt motor. I wouldn't be surprised if Hoover Europe add that to the Purepower upright eventually.

But then when you consider premium uprights like Miele's S7, it too has 1800 watts.
 
By the way, to all concerned. You might have read this already. There is an energy usage report that provides interesting information and is free to download. It dates from 2011 but I feel it still has bearing. Though based on U.S data, there are some interesting comparisons and links to European info. (Link below)

A couple of screenshots...the first relating to American vacuums amps, which by my calculations roughly translate to 1440 watts, 1200 watts and 960 watts and a rough saving of £5 over that "7 year period."



http://www.energystar.gov/ia/products/downloads/ENERGY_STAR_Scoping_Report_Vacuums.pdf
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I like how in the link, they say that 'experts fear that eco machines will be less efficient at picking up grime, mud & pet hair'. Um no, just design them better then they won't be so freaking bad.

Also, James Dyson described less powerful models as 'unrepresentative' of everyday family life. Well if Vacuum Cleaners that are around 900w-1200w aren't good enough for the modern home, then Sir James is shooting himself in the foot there, as most of his vacuums are 900w-1200w (I think, don't quote me on it) & he's saying that they're not powerful enough.

IMHO I am glad this is actually going ahead, the wattages just keep going up. I will encourage companies who use High Power Motors such as Hoover & Vax to pull their finger out, either that or go bust.

I can't think of a Vax that uses a motor less than 1200w, perhaps there is one, I don't know. And to think, this time next year we could see Vacuums that have 'gone back in time'.
 
Dyson

I too thought he was contradicting all that he has produced.

In fact if anything, he would be a perfect individual to speak for the argument FOR a cap on wattages, by explaining how his desigeners have been able to get maximum suction from what are -by today's standards- low wattage cleaners.
 

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