Oh dear, we've been vacuum shopping...

[sebo_fan]

Thats the thing though - and very apparent online from U.S buyers from Walmart - when the Felix went on sale there, every owner is so used to amping up a vacuum cleaner because they've been let down before or so used to realising that the highest power is required all the time. Thus they weren't prepared for the hot air thrust that comes off it.

As a classic Hoover collector, it took me time to realise that the SEBO uprights aren't like conventional vacuums. But then I also realised that other brands could do things oh-so-differently. Like you, I also only use half power. Jon.

When you consider that the Felix has the same power as a SEBO X4, I'd say neither of them are poor of suction through the hose.

And Alex - do thy likewise - not all bagged uprights constantly have to refer back to Hoover's bloody TP1 series.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Well by todays standards I thought the x series had poor hose suction it is most certainly not as powerful as the Felix but that is my opinion.

 

[madaboutsebo]

That's the thing the general public think you need a powerful vacuum or have it on full to clean properly! I only use full power when I need the extra boost in power.

I can't comment as I only tried an X in John Lewis briefly but I would of thought the X and Felix having the same power as each other should have a similar performance at the hose! Or the main cleaner head.

 

[sebo_fan]

If the SEBO X's suction was so poor, how do the bags get so packed up with dust? Surely if suction was so poor through the hose, owners would be finding that half a bag would be wasted? In other words, not quite.

 

[alexhoovers94]

It is good enough don't get me wrong but by most cleaners on the market today a lot of vacuums have stronger suction such as the Felix, Purepower, DC41 not just picking on the X series, the Vax Mach Air cleaners have pretty low suction in comparison to other uprights.


 


But what I think is powerful and what others think is powerful may be different.


 


Now I am most likely going to contradict myself but I shall say it anyway - I like the lower suction when using cleaning tools, I find to much suction for the hose tasks annoying as it can shrink up and suck to anything and everything in sight.


But I believe in my opinion that more suction is required at the cleaner head as more cheaper vacuums seem to have to rely on it as they have poor designed brushrolls.

 

[singingrainbow]

That is very impressive how full the bag got after that first use. I do have one of those Panasonics (branded miele) and it is surprising that it wasn't taking such good care of the carpet. I quite like the x series and I believe they are of good quality. They are very easy to maintain and are well made. I will say though that carpet cleaning is much less impressive to me. The automatic height adjuster is a bit fidgety on my carpets and it does "skim" at times, besides that it just doesn't seem to groom very well either. One major good point for me is the bag capacity, as a testament to this I will just say my sebo's bag has pine needles in it from Christmas last year and the year before, plus general household dirt and it has yet to be full.


 


I personally prefer the miele S7 series for my home for various reasons. I say use what works, old, new, bag, bagless, everyone's needs and preferences are different.From what has been seen recently the sebo x series machines are clearly not for everyone.


 


I agree with you Alex, I don't get why people in general tend to be so obsessed with hose suction. For above floor cleaning not only is it unnecessary, but can be quite detrimental to the task at hand. A somewhat common comment from customers at the store I work for when I am demonstrating the suction control feature on a machine is "So, that's for when I want to do a crappy job huh?". At least they're normally kidding


Scott

 

[turbo500]

Sebo bag capacity

The bag capacity of the Sebo is one of the things I love about it. The bags are huge and because of the top fill bag and airflow design, you can REALLY cram them full of dirt and dust before it needs changing.

I changed the bag in my Sebo for the first time since August (bear in mind, I use mine daily and I have a cat) and I'm not kidding, the bag was like a brick when I removed it. It was packed SOLID. And yet, the cleaner barely lost any suction.

As Scott said, if whatever machine you're using is working for you, then great. On the contrary to what's been said above, I've ALWAYS found the Sebo to deep clean very well, groom the carpet well and the hose suction is plenty strong enough. My other half is also very happy with his Sebo and as is evident by the pictures, it's obviously doing a good job on his carpets.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Smell

It's the smell of a used dust bag which I cannot abide.

 

[turbo500]

I can't say I've ever had a problem with the dustbag smelling, even when it's full of cat fur, although I have noticed that with a few other cleaners.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Bag smelling....

I have, but then again I have noticed that on any vacuum really when you have pets, those charcoal filters that some cleaners have still don't seem to help.

 

[sebo_fan]

Cat hair doesn't tend to smell much - but dog hair reeks!

When I lent out my Dart to a friend of mine she complained the Dart stank of the dog hair and eventually I took the Dart back to discover that yes, it did indeed stink - but that was because it was fitted with SEBO's original microfilter before the charcoal one came out on the market. Now it runs fine, though from time to time, the smell still comes and goes.

So I took it home again and cleaned out the hose. Oh the dirt! You don't realise that whilst vacuums have filters to cope with the smell, its the hose that gets entirely run down with pet hair and its associated oils. One quick sniff of the hose soon tells you whether it requires cleaning or not.

As for SEBO bags - I write the date on mine to surprise myself. The longest bag I've since had was in my D2 series - 6.5 months, which is was the first bag I used in the machine and used that as a daily driver whenever my home required to be cleaned.

The X series bags can last up to 3-5 months in my home, but it depends really on what it is cleaning up, who has visited etc. Id say that though the SEBO D2 and X series dust bags have a similar capacity, the brush roll on the upright obviously picks up more compared to the suction only from the D2 as well as the fact that the D2 is much more powerful at 2100 watts.

Strange that...

 

[madaboutsebo]

I usually get 3 to 4 months out of my Felix Bags depending how often I use it sometimes daily or every other day along with my Miele S7 that I use! Dog hair is the main contents!! I've make a note of how long the bags last on both machines just to see how long the bags are in the machine. Mainly it was to prove a point to myself how many bags I've use over the period of owning the machine to add to the initial cost of the vacuum to actual prove owing a bag vacuum cost not much more than a bagless in answer to Dyson marketing!! When not if you own a SEBO anyway.

That's what I like about SEBO the dust and dirt compacts into the bag so it's like a brick when is full. The one in my Felix is nearly full (first use of the synthetic bags) and it's like a brick! My Miele bags last about 3 months too although bigger than the Felix bags they do compact but not as much as the Felix bags only slightly....!

 

[thekirbylover]

sebo bags being huge

personally I don't think that the bags are that big, I had to change the bag 2 weeks after of owning my X4

 

[sebo_fan]

New carpet by any chance. Kirby?

 

[thekirbylover]

New carpet by any chance. Kirby?

nope the last time I had new carpet was about 2 years ago.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I DO love when someone tells me,

"I need to buy a new 'sweweper'"... or,"What kind of vacuum should I buy?" I tell them, "Fear not... let's go"..................

 

[sebo_fan]

Well a carpet that is only 2 years old can still keep moulting the top layer. Depends on what you have. It has taken the best part of 4 years for my wool carpets to stop producing top fluff.

 

[thekirbylover]

sebo_fan

my carpet doesn't have a top layer I have looked in the bag and all that is there is pet hair

 

[alexhoovers94]

Also regarding whoever said the SEBO was on par with the Turbopower, here are some agitation videos I made a while ago.


 





 


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[sebo_fan]

Good videos Alex - but the Hoover does that have that activator brush roller which the SEBO doesn't - and secondly there's always going to be damage incurred because of the activator "beater" tufts. Oh yes the TP will definitely beat the carpet harder than any SEBO, but what damage is it doing? Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening and on hard floors, agitator and beater bars are just NOT advised.

At least the SEBO can clean BOTH coverings with little damage.