alexhoovers94
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why, Michael? When it works for me?
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thekirbylover
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why, Michael? When it works for me?
the other sebo products actually do work for me like the felix and the D4 but the X4 is no where near as good as what chris is making out it is
the other sebo products actually do work for me like the felix and the D4 but the X4 is no where near as good as what chris is making out it is
turbo500
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Well evidentially, it does deep clean given how much grit and dust came out of these carpets.
The Sebo is meant to feel like it's gliding - that's the whole point of the auto height adjustment. It's designed so that the brushroll is at the correct height. It still gives an excellent deep clean. No agitation, Alex? I beg to differ. Watch this space.
Alex, you're in no position to be judging anyone's carpets. When did you last vacuum anything above floor?
The Sebo is meant to feel like it's gliding - that's the whole point of the auto height adjustment. It's designed so that the brushroll is at the correct height. It still gives an excellent deep clean. No agitation, Alex? I beg to differ. Watch this space.
Alex, you're in no position to be judging anyone's carpets. When did you last vacuum anything above floor?
turbo500
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Citreonbx, have you used a Sebo? Despite what Alex is saying here, nobody could deny their reliability and build quality. It's actually one of the most solid vacuums I've ever used and it's certainly more sturdy and better built than a Turbopower 1.
turbo500
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I would also like to point out that Alex has, ONCE AGAIN, managed to make a conversation about a modern cleaner about Hoover Turbopowers, a vacuum that hasn't been on the market for 13 years. This entire discussion is completely irrelevant to the original post.
Can somebody create a Hoover Turbopower section of the site just for Alex?
Can somebody create a Hoover Turbopower section of the site just for Alex?
alexhoovers94
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Chris,
woooah, we draw the line there it is definitely better built than a Turbopower 1 but it is most certainty not better, not even close!! the hose suction is obviously not as good, but you have to comprise somewhere, the Sebo does it with cleaning and the Hoover on the hose suction, however the Turbopower 2 cleaners are pretty good and have good hose suction, for the time I guess.
Don't forget we are talking about a cleaner from the 90's, cleaners were less powerful than they are now, as you must know.
Also Cirton BX, who gave you the idea that I don't like DC01's?!?! I LOVE DC01's, the De Stijl especially.
woooah, we draw the line there it is definitely better built than a Turbopower 1 but it is most certainty not better, not even close!! the hose suction is obviously not as good, but you have to comprise somewhere, the Sebo does it with cleaning and the Hoover on the hose suction, however the Turbopower 2 cleaners are pretty good and have good hose suction, for the time I guess.
Don't forget we are talking about a cleaner from the 90's, cleaners were less powerful than they are now, as you must know.
Also Cirton BX, who gave you the idea that I don't like DC01's?!?! I LOVE DC01's, the De Stijl especially.
turbo500
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The first Sebo I ever used was in 1998 and is still in regular use. I suggest you actually try one before branding it "flimsy modern crap".
A year? Get real, ALL new bought appliances come with a years return to store warranty.
A year? Get real, ALL new bought appliances come with a years return to store warranty.
alexhoovers94
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"Can somebody create a Hoover Turbopower section of the site just for Alex?"
That would be wonderful, darling, how thoughtful.
That would be wonderful, darling, how thoughtful.
thekirbylover
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how much grit and dust came out of these carpets.
I can only see carpet fluff if im honest they do remove some grit but not enough to deem it deep cleaning
I can only see carpet fluff if im honest they do remove some grit but not enough to deem it deep cleaning
alexhoovers94
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A Contour would pick up more than that!
suctionselector
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Sebo X1...
I just thought I might put my thoughts about the Sebo X1.1, which I believe - do correct me if I am wrong - is not too dissimilar to the X Automatic, apart from the obvious differences. The school I attend have a fleet of around seven or eight Sebo X1.1'S, some are in the blue and yellow colour scheme and some are white and grey. As they are used in a school with over 2000 students and 100 classrooms, they have all taken a battering over the years they have been in use. Now, I have used them several times, sometimes even for cleaning up after light building work, and I believe that they are some of the best and well designed uprights available for sale on the current market , comparing them to older cleaners is almost irrelevant in my opinion, others may beg to differ but that is my opinion. The suction from the cleaner head is strong, and so is the hose suction, which is rare to find a vacuum which has equally good floor head and hose suction without compromising one way or another. Good deep cleaning for hard worn out carpets, cleaning deep down. The build quality on the X1.1's are great, I know people and I am one, that believe that modern German engineered products have good build quality, and that is true. We have a kitchen full of appliances from Bosch, and I have recently bought a Miele S2111 in Lava Grey which for the price I paid, is a superbly engineered and durable product, as well as good suction. I am not trying to compare the Sebo to the Miele, but I have got a cylinder on the fact that we have lots of wooden floors with lots of furniture which can mean hard access to crevices with an upright cleaner.
This is purely my opinion on the matter, and not trying to create arguments.
Chris, I am sure that Rosh will enjoy his new Sebo
I just thought I might put my thoughts about the Sebo X1.1, which I believe - do correct me if I am wrong - is not too dissimilar to the X Automatic, apart from the obvious differences. The school I attend have a fleet of around seven or eight Sebo X1.1'S, some are in the blue and yellow colour scheme and some are white and grey. As they are used in a school with over 2000 students and 100 classrooms, they have all taken a battering over the years they have been in use. Now, I have used them several times, sometimes even for cleaning up after light building work, and I believe that they are some of the best and well designed uprights available for sale on the current market , comparing them to older cleaners is almost irrelevant in my opinion, others may beg to differ but that is my opinion. The suction from the cleaner head is strong, and so is the hose suction, which is rare to find a vacuum which has equally good floor head and hose suction without compromising one way or another. Good deep cleaning for hard worn out carpets, cleaning deep down. The build quality on the X1.1's are great, I know people and I am one, that believe that modern German engineered products have good build quality, and that is true. We have a kitchen full of appliances from Bosch, and I have recently bought a Miele S2111 in Lava Grey which for the price I paid, is a superbly engineered and durable product, as well as good suction. I am not trying to compare the Sebo to the Miele, but I have got a cylinder on the fact that we have lots of wooden floors with lots of furniture which can mean hard access to crevices with an upright cleaner.
This is purely my opinion on the matter, and not trying to create arguments.
Chris, I am sure that Rosh will enjoy his new Sebo
turbo500
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Michael....
Are you blind? The only carpet fluff is the red stuff at the bottom from a shag rug. The rest is dust and grit. Rosh has light brown carpets throughout, yet there is no light brown carpet fluff anywhere to be seen in that bag.
Also, it was only a month ago you were singing the praises of your newly acquired X4. What happened? Did you just get bored with your latest toy quite quickly?
Are you blind? The only carpet fluff is the red stuff at the bottom from a shag rug. The rest is dust and grit. Rosh has light brown carpets throughout, yet there is no light brown carpet fluff anywhere to be seen in that bag.
Also, it was only a month ago you were singing the praises of your newly acquired X4. What happened? Did you just get bored with your latest toy quite quickly?
thekirbylover
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compared to the suction on most modern uprights it isnt that good, they are good for commercial use because they are commercial......... like I said I love my other sebo products the x series just let them down, and yes chris I do that with everything after the excitement goes your left with reality [this post was last edited: 2/8/2014-14:21]
vintagerepairer
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"ALL new bought appliances come with a years return to store warranty".
Actually, this is not correct, but I will not expand further unless invited to do so for fear of being spoken to in the same way that others have been.
Just....wow
watching this thread has been like seeing a car crash in slow motion.
I have a Sebo X4 along with 2 top condition turbopower 1s and a turbopower 2, so I'd like to think I'm in a good position to compare here.
The carpet cleaning of both the turbopower 1s and the X4 is on par, with the turbopower 2 languishing at a distant 3rd. The grooming action is again about on par with the TP1 and the X4, both leave lovely carpet tracks in cut pile. The turbopower 2 does not!
Above floor/hard floor cleaning, obviously the Sebo is considerably better at all these tasks than the other machines.
Build quality, again the Sebo wins by a long shot!
As for deep cleaning, for floors the TP1 and X4 are about on par, but overall the Sebo would have to win for it's above floor capabilities.
To compare a Sebo to a kirby, I have always found Kirby brush rolls to be very dissappointing, and any of the above machines will groom better, as well as being far more versatile.
I love my turbopowers, but only the early models. From the mid-90s onwards they just got cheaper and more tacky with every model. Lets not even get started on the abomination that was the freedom!
I have only one type of vacuum which outcleans a Sebo X4 on carpets, and even then it's only slightly better, and these are the Turbomasters.
So all in all, I agree that the Sebo X4 is the best upright on the market today, and that it is better than almost all vintage uprights too *drops bombshell*
Also Alex, take this as you will, but someone who is happy to post pictures in a public forum about vacuum cleaners of their house in that state is in no position to lecture others on deep cleaning...just a thought.
Matt
watching this thread has been like seeing a car crash in slow motion.
I have a Sebo X4 along with 2 top condition turbopower 1s and a turbopower 2, so I'd like to think I'm in a good position to compare here.
The carpet cleaning of both the turbopower 1s and the X4 is on par, with the turbopower 2 languishing at a distant 3rd. The grooming action is again about on par with the TP1 and the X4, both leave lovely carpet tracks in cut pile. The turbopower 2 does not!
Above floor/hard floor cleaning, obviously the Sebo is considerably better at all these tasks than the other machines.
Build quality, again the Sebo wins by a long shot!
As for deep cleaning, for floors the TP1 and X4 are about on par, but overall the Sebo would have to win for it's above floor capabilities.
To compare a Sebo to a kirby, I have always found Kirby brush rolls to be very dissappointing, and any of the above machines will groom better, as well as being far more versatile.
I love my turbopowers, but only the early models. From the mid-90s onwards they just got cheaper and more tacky with every model. Lets not even get started on the abomination that was the freedom!
I have only one type of vacuum which outcleans a Sebo X4 on carpets, and even then it's only slightly better, and these are the Turbomasters.
So all in all, I agree that the Sebo X4 is the best upright on the market today, and that it is better than almost all vintage uprights too *drops bombshell*
Also Alex, take this as you will, but someone who is happy to post pictures in a public forum about vacuum cleaners of their house in that state is in no position to lecture others on deep cleaning...just a thought.
Matt
alexhoovers94
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for floors the TP1 and X4 are about on par
it beggars belief what I am seeing.
it beggars belief what I am seeing.
alexhoovers94
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you started out comparing it to the tp2, what happened to that, if that not on par with the sebo, the build quality that is?
